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iPhone 4 Reception Recall Ruckus Roundup

Readers today have been sending tons of stories about the iPhone 4, so here are a few of the highlights: Following the Consumers Reports announcement that the iPhone has antenna problems, Andy Patrizio asks if Apple can withstand the pressure to recall, while CNet estimates that a recall would cost them $1.5B. But that's just the latest on the iPhone 4 — the long running carrier exclusivity lawsuit rumors have been upgraded to Class Action status.

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  1. iFail? by Ibetthisisvalid · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Just don't but apple! Simple. Let all the fanbois think they're cool with the 'appulzzzz' and then laugh when their call drops just as they're telling you how 'great' the iFAIL is.

  2. Re:Stock is not a big problem. by commodore64_love · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    >>>that is what many savvy investors are counting on, because the fall in their stock price is really a reaction of fear.

    In that case they should wait until 2011 because the stock will fall a lot lower after the US Dollar is abandoned as universal currency. To quote Obama's pastors: "America's roosters are coming home."

    As for Apple they made a mistake - it happens. What matters next is how they handle the mistake so as to keep customers happy, and so far they've done a lousy job. No doubt many customers are now thinking their next "iPhone" will be an Android or Nokia model instead.

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  3. Re:Stock is not a big problem. by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    While it may not make sense to everyone, the behavior observed shows that people buy and continue to buy Apple products despite the objections of folks on the internet.

    And apparently there's even some science to support this phenomenon.

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    Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure everything I just said is completely wrong.
  4. Wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So, all I need to make an iPhone work properly is not hold it too tight,

    No.

    I hold it normally.

    If you hold it like you are trying to crush a rock, then you can get the signal to drop some - as with most other phones.

    I'm not careful about how I hold the phone and it does not matter.

    Oh, and incidentally, as an HTC user - no matter how hard I grip the phone, I can't get it to lose a bar of signal

    Some iPhone 4 users say the same thing - and they are right, for themselves. However there are also videos showing HTC drops as well.

    That's what everyone is failing to understand here, is that in real life other phones have the same problem if you use them in specific ways. In everyday use those phones aren't really affected much either, just like the iPhone 4.

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  5. Re:And one more why you are wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    All the early phones the whip antennas were encased in plastic. That was why they were black and not silver.

    I had a motorola phone where the pull-up antenna was metal, and silver. I can't remember the model name, but it was before the stub antennas came out.

    I'll see if I can find it later.

    I don't doubt your design background but I'm telling you, reception is improved just holding it normally. I think it was a good design choice even though the users hand has potentially more impact on signal quality, because overall the signal reception is better.

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  6. Could be, was told that by a friend ordering by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I call bullshit. One of my coworkers just bought one with a mere 36 hour lag from time of order to having it in his hand.

    Ok. I was just told by a friend of mine they went to order one (yesterday) and it was supposed to be a three-week wait. Perhaps it's a regional thing, or they were just wrong... that's what I get for not having direct experience with the matter. Kind of like people complaining about the iPhone 4 signal issues without owning one.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  7. Re:Stock price is falling too by node+3 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Then you got a defective unit. The iPhone 4 gets far better reception than all the previous iPhones, and gets high marks compared with smartphones in general. Congratulations, you're buying a Droid X because you bought into the media circus.

  8. Re:ZOMG a "huge" -5%?! by node+3 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This one unreliable product has planted the seed of doubt.

    Do you have an iPhone 4? Because it's rather interesting that the bulk of those calling it "unreliable" (or defective or flawed or whatever) have never even seen one in person. Apple has a problem here, but it's not with the iPhone 4, it's with the fact that the media latched on to something that affects all phones, exacerbated by a software bug, and created a smoke-and-mirrors shitstorm.

    Do you know what Consumer Reports' top rated smartphone is? iPhone 4. Do you know how many people have iPhone 4's? Over 2 million. You'd think if things were really as bad as it seems, people would be returning their iPhone 4's in droves. But they aren't.