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iPhone 4 Reception Recall Ruckus Roundup

Readers today have been sending tons of stories about the iPhone 4, so here are a few of the highlights: Following the Consumers Reports announcement that the iPhone has antenna problems, Andy Patrizio asks if Apple can withstand the pressure to recall, while CNet estimates that a recall would cost them $1.5B. But that's just the latest on the iPhone 4 — the long running carrier exclusivity lawsuit rumors have been upgraded to Class Action status.

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  1. And one more why you are wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    Design: Only an ignorant fool would put an external, metal antenna on a phone. Not only does nobody do this, nobody has ever done this in the history of mobile phones.

    Ok Rosie.

    Except that I had a number of mobile phones with external pull-up antennas, in the early days...

    And the external antenna on the iPhone 4 means I get a lot better reception and data throughput than I did with the 3Gs.

    It's pretty obvious there's an idiot here, but it's not Apple. It's all the people going on about a phone they have never even touched. The design is a good one, it provides real value - they simply need to coat the area right around the gap to prevent conducting, which happens in real life only occasionally at worst. I do not have a case, don't live in an area with a very strong signal, and I have yet to drop a call from this.

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  2. It does "simply work" by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    Do you realize how many people buy Apple products because they "simply work"? This one unreliable product has planted the seed of doubt.

    Except that in real-world use it's not unreliable. It's been very reliable, more so than the older phones. So the people more on the fringe of tech will pretty much hardly even notice this kerfluffle and just keep buying what they like and works well.

    If the iPhone 4 is seeing such huge problems why is there a 3-week backlog for new orders?

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    1. Re:It does "simply work" by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

      Real-world tests by Wired, Engadget, etc. all show that you can have 4 bars and great signal. Hold the phone and have zero signal.

      In a death grip, yes. And videos exist showing the same effect for just about any other 3G phone on the market.

      But in REAL WORLD USE, as in MY ACTUAL USE, the phone is consistently better in reception all over the place. Did you ever honestly believe what the bars said before anyway?

      I also hate this notion that Apple products always just work. iTunes has wiped music, ringtones and such from my phone multiple times. It crashes all the time. It messes up tags on my MP3s and stripped away album artwork so it won't display correctly in Windows Media Player.

      Yes, iTunes on Windows is a piece of crap. None of those problems exist on the Mac happily. It's true not ALL Apple products simple "work". But Apple hardware paired with Apple software, generally does.

      Apple products are not nearly as perfect as people make them out to be.

      I never said they were perfect, by any means. It's just that usually they are so much better than the alternatives....

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    2. Re:It does "simply work" by BtEO · · Score: 1, Troll

      I can death-grip my Nokia N96 (generally noted among the weaker quality hardware Nokia has put out of late) right around the antenna and get no drop — in bars or db — whatsoever. I can take off the battery cover so I can get an even closer death-grip and still effect no visible change upon my reception.

      Is there any particular reason why iTunes on Windows cannot be written to function correctly?
      Does Windows perhaps randomly corrupt data on USB ports messing up the connection? Does it randomly mess with the file system causing iTunes to lose track of files and corrupt their metadata? And if so, how can I edit tags and manage my music in Winamp, Foobar, MP3Tag, WMP, or a host of other programs, as well as reliably sync my music and data with Nokia's PC Suite without ever seeing issues such as iTunes is being alleged (and to which you do not appear to be disputing) to experience?

  3. Re:CNet estimates that a A recall would cost them by Cwix · · Score: 0, Troll

    Wow the grammar nazis are trolling the summary. Dont you have anything better to do? (I left out some punctuation for you.. I know spotting typos and then ranting about it makes you happy.)

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  4. You picked a bad day to attack the stock by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's not only that cost. In 3 days Apple's stock has gone down a huge 5%

    So what does in mean when in a few hours, it goes up $3.48?

    Because the stock is up substantially today.

    You picked a really bad day to complain about the stock it would seem.

    It is nice that people panic when bad news comes out and let the rest of us have slightly better purchasing opportunities. But then people realize how insignificant the problems really are and how quickly people are buying the new phones, and the stock goes right back up again...

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  5. How mature by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    wow, can i have some of that tasty kool aid that you're drinking (you low-life sack of shit.)

    More Apple Hater maturity! Instantly, through your own verbiage, I come off about 100 IQ points higher than you.

    I mean, who are people supposed to believe - someone who actually owns the phone for real, or a hater with a burning irrational hate of Apple that calls people "a sack of shit".

    Sorry, "Low-life sack of shit". I didn't want to misquote you, people need to understand just how lacking in intelligence you really are and presenting the full quote helps.

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  6. Re:ZOMG a "huge" -5%?! by blai · · Score: 0, Troll

    Do you realize how many people buy Apple products because they "simply work"? This one unreliable product has planted the seed of doubt.

    Their products do simply work. We are just holding them wrong.

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  7. Re:Stock is not a big problem. by commodore64_love · · Score: 1, Troll

    >>>No surprise it was bunk.

    Yeah. We'll see if you're still saying that a year from now when the DOW has dropped back down to 7000 levels. I can hear it now, "Oh. That C64 dude was right. Well he's still an ass." ;-)

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  8. Re:Could be, was told that by a friend ordering by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is said friend trying to walk into a store and get one? They're spewing massive amounts of bullshit. Said coworker simply ordered it from the webpage, they said 5-7 days, it was there on the second.

    Interesting, my friend was also ordering on the web and it said three weeks. But it seems they ship much faster than indicated.

    You won't hear me complain. I will never own one due to the fatal signal issues. The "death grip", I see what you did there Steve, is my normal method of holding a phone.

    No, it is not. Normal holding of the phone does not really affect the signal. You have to squeeze much harder than normal and kind of wrap the phone, to really have an effect. Although partially it's probably a function of how sweaty your hands are.

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  9. Read Again by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    I've not been able to replicate that result - you should read engadgets follow-up on the story showing people simply do not have that kind of problem in real use:

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/yes-the-iphone-4-is-broken-no-the-iphone-4-is-not-broken/

    It's a problem, but it's not serious if it almost never happens.

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