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The Chicken May Have Come Before the Egg

Muondecay writes "The age old question of which came first, the chicken or the egg, has been tentatively answered. The verdict? The chicken, or rather a key protein needed to form the shell of the egg. The protein, called ovocledidin-17, was known to be involved in binding calcite molecules that formed the shells, but the mechanism behind this was unclear until now. The protein acts as a molecular machine, binding to nanoparticles of calcite and guiding them to begin self-assembly of the shell. This gives tremendous insight for developing methods of nano-scale self-assembly based on natural processes, as well as settling heated cocktail party arguments everywhere."

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  1. Me fail logic? That's purple! by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't help but feel that the reason why the "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" debate has continued to rage, outside Texas and the other retarded US states which deny Darwin, has a lot to do with arguments like this one. Maybe everyone who can tell the difference between a-protein-now-found-in-chickens and a chicken has long ago come to the conclusion that what came first was some animal different enough from a chicken that we wouldn't call it that, which laid an egg that contained an animal similar enough to a chicken that we would call it a chicken. And only the logic deficient and the religious crazies are left arguing the options.

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  2. Fossil Record by bckspc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dunno... dinosaurs laid eggs long before chickens roamed the earth.

  3. Re:Holy bad link by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps the egg shell developed as a result of a cookie setting error? Did chickens really eat cookies back then?

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  4. Nothing to do with the classic question... by poor_boi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh god, I can't believe this drivel reached Slashdot. Let me explain what's happened here:

    <Reporter> Hi, Scientist, thanks for meeting with me today. I'd like to write a story about your work. Could you please explain a little?
    <Scientist> We've definitively proven and carefully described the role that protein ovocledidin-17 plays in eggshell formation
    <Reporter> Wait, so let me get this straight, you found ... stuff ... inside the chicken that's ... necessary for producing eggs?
    <Scientist> Er... yes.
    <Reporter> So... that means the chicken came before the egg, right...?
    [Scientist to self: Oh god, why couldn't Bob handled this damned interview]
    <Scientist> Obviously, it's not really what we were trying to get out of our simulations, but it's an interesting question isn't it?
    [The above is a direct quote from researcher Colin Freeman. You can see he is declining to answer by way of polite deflection.]
    <Reporter> Excellent! Well, that's about all we need, it was great to meet you and we'll be in touch.
    <Scientist> Er... nice... you too...
    [Reporter goes back to HQ to write the article]
    <Reporter> Okay, I've got this material about a chicken protein... um... ovocledidin-17... it's in chickens and it helps makes eggs and MAN is this stuff boring. Hey I know! What was it he said about the chicken and egg thing I asked him? [Looks at notes.] Well, alright! He didn't deny my proposition that the chicken came first! He must be agreeing with me! Alright! I'll just title my story "Scientists answer ages-old Chicken or Egg question." That oughta grab some eyes.

    [Every news outlet in America proceeds to run story]

    [Smart people everywhere cringe and sigh]

  5. Re:Article is flawed. Egg came first. by macraig · · Score: 5, Informative

    You haven't got the memo about epigenetics and RNA yet, huh? Sorry, you're actually incorrect. Some of how you experience life does in fact get passed along to your offspring... well, it does if you're one of those few lucky Slashdotters to wean yourself off of here and WoW and escape Mom's basement and find a woman with low standards and all that.

  6. Re:Ignorant by ashridah · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ask and ye shall receive, from an Evolutionary Biologist, no less: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/07/chickens_eggs_this_is_no_way_t.php

    (PS, the research says not what the article promotes)

  7. Re:Okay then. by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This (TFA, not your comment) is the dumbest thing I've seen all week. Chickens and all other birds were evolved from dinasaurs. Dinasaurs laid eggs; dinasaur eggs have been found. The egg came millions of years before chickens evolved.

    Jesus, are all journalists noncompos? This is a huge failure of simple reasoning abilities.