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Irish Gov't Invests In Color-Coded Fiber Optics

c0mpliant writes "The Irish government has invested a further €5 million, after already having invested €5 million one year ago, in a new system of fiber optics which heralds an era of virtualization of fiber networks, using color coding to enable multiple fiber providers to serve businesses and homes, often on a single strand of fiber. The technology, which has already sparked interest from companies such as BT and IBM, is already in its first phase and boasts an impressive 2.5 terabytes capacity, double the capacity of the London phone system. The company behind the technology, Intune Technology, is comprised of a group of ex-UCD photonics researchers and has been around since 1999 and are based in Dublin. The project is set to be completed by 2020."

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  1. 5 millions for color coding? by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 2, Funny

    They are going to be quite interesting colours, indeed. Fashionable, I presume.

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    1. Re:5 millions for color coding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ireland is soon going to be a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY......

      Let's see......pissing in the kitchen sink, fucking sheep and blowing each other up. Sounds like Ireland hit 3rd world status 100 years ago.

  2. 2.5 terabytes capacity? by noidentity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The technology, which has already sparked interest from companies such as BT and IBM, is already in its first phase and boasts an impressive 2.5 terabytes capacity, double the capacity of the London phone system.

    Meh, my hard drive can store almost that much already.

    1. Re:2.5 terabytes capacity? by Krneki · · Score: 3, Funny

      The technology, which has already sparked interest from companies such as BT and IBM, is already in its first phase and boasts an impressive 2.5 terabytes capacity, double the capacity of the London phone system.

      Meh, my hard drive can store almost that much already.

      Indeed

      All you need now is a pigeon to send the data.

      Eat that, you drunk handless dancers.

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    2. Re:2.5 terabytes capacity? by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Assuming those 3 loops in the picture are 300 km per east-west leg (the max width of Ireland is 280km) including the north-south parts of the loop, the total fiber length is 6 * 300km = 1800km = 1800000m. The speed of light in fiber is approximately 200e6 m/s vs. 300e6 m/s for a vacuum. That makes the total fiber 'length' about 9ms. At 2.5 TB/s, all of the fiber only contains about 22.5GB at any one instant.

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  3. About time by jaggeh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It really is about time the irish government invested in improving connectivity. we are so far behind the average we may aswell be hand delivering packets.

    Maybe now i can get an affordable internet connection.

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  4. Terminology by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I assume that by 'colour coding' what the summary actually means is Frequency Division Multiplexing, which isn't exactly new.

    Reading TFA it looks to me like a situation of "we've 'invented' this amazing technology, give us money". That may be unfair I admit. What IS interesting is the idea of the fibre being shared by competing telcos. Has that been done before?

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    1. Re:Terminology by Bugamn · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, I thought it was about painting red the wire that I should cut.

    2. Re:Terminology by pehrs · · Score: 5, Informative

      What IS interesting is the idea of the fibre being shared by competing telcos. Has that been done before?

      Yes, it has. Selling wavelengths in dark fiber is very common, and companies frequently buy part of lines from eachother. Submarine cables are frequently owned by several companies.

      On a level closer to the customer there exists a (in Sweden) functional business model where a company owns the line to the customer and creates a market where different ISP's can provide services to the customer. OpenNet is one of more well known providers using this business model in Sweden.

    3. Re:Terminology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You sound like a dirty commie socialist to me!

      Don't you know that the market will sort everything out and that companies need to compete fiercely with each other, jealously guarding their secrets and infrastructure rather than this wussy "sharing" and "co-operating" to benefit the consumer in the way you suggest? ;-)

    4. Re:Terminology by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Already happens in the UK. Multiple providers working off one cell tower is very common.
      Also common is 'virtual' cell networks, where the consumer-facing provider rents cell capacity from an established telco as you suggest. Examples of this are Tesco Mobile and Virgin Mobile, neither of which own or operate any infrastructure, instead piggybacking off other networks and offering their own pricing and service structure.

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    5. Re:Terminology by Guy+Harris · · Score: 2, Interesting

      FDM, really? Wouldn't you be using CWDM or DWDM (Course/Dense Wavelength Division Multiplexing) be the right choice with fiber?

      Frequency-division multiplexing and wavelength-division multiplexing are the same thing, given that wavelength = speed / frequency.

  5. im Irish by ionix5891 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and quite happy about this

    but people here (mostly USasians :D) need to know that Ireland had the most expensive bank bailout in world per head of population, almost 10x your mess
    and probably the most incompetent and corrupt government in western world, who are now running a deficit of 20% of GDP which would make the Greeks look good

    and we will be paying for this for many generations :(

    this is a coloured lining on a gray cloud :(

    1. Re:im Irish by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

      They've really been putting the "fail" in "Fianna Fáil", eh?

  6. Re:One Word: WOW !! by jaggeh · · Score: 3, Funny

    Whiskey was invented to prevent the irish from ruling the world

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  7. Wavelength-division Multiplexing by pehrs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As far as I can tell this is just a standard implementation of the well known technology known as wavelength-division multiplexing. And calling it "color coding" makes me, as an Engineer, cringe. I am sure it's nice for Ireland to get a new core network, but how this is news for Slashdot is way beyond me...

    Network virtualization is just used as a buzzword here. There is good work being done in the network virtualization field (See for example http://www.geni.net/ and http://www.fp7-federica.eu/ but as far as I can tell these guys are not doing anything revolutionary.

    1. Re:Wavelength-division Multiplexing by pmullen · · Score: 2, Informative

      In fact they are using a techique called lambda burst switching, where each switch on the ring has a colour associated with it and when sending a packet to that switch the transmit laser retunes to that wavelenght.

      It is very different than the usual OTN style DWDM transport and more like a giant ethernet switch, where every device gets 10Gbit/s uncontented transmit, that can send a packet directly to any other device, regardless of the number of devices in the ring. The number of nodes is only bound by how many lambdas you can fit in the C-band.

      They are basically statistically multiplexing in the time domain.

      The idea is cool but I'm not sure about the implementation.

  8. Powerpoint with details by 2phar · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a Presentation from April with some detail. There's more to this than just regular WDM.

    1. Re:Powerpoint with details by TychoCaine · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's is WDM, but instead of multiple low frequency lasers firing at once, they've got a single high frequency laser firing multiple wavelengths. They've taken the lead from other high-speed data busses like IDE and SCSI in transitioning from parallel to serial, as (I presume) cross-talk must become an issue as speeds rise.

  9. DWDM by beefstu01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They could just talk to Cisco, Juniper, Nortel, or any other major network infra provider and get DWDM (read "extra colors") capability rolled into their switch. It would probably cost 5m Euro, but the tech already exists (and has since the mid 70's).

    1. Re:DWDM by Khyber · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem I see with this is the fact that certain wavelengths have certain interfering effects with other wavelengths. For example, 660-670nm radiation coupled with 720-740nm IR radiation causes some odd effects, which plants happen to utilize in photosynthesis, but I don't think we've ever tested such effects against the communication of data.

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    2. Re:DWDM by Guy+Harris · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...it's disappointing to find out that he is not an ex-UC Davis alumnus as the summary implies

      The summary speaks of "of a group of ex-UCD photonics researchers"; there's more than one UCD on the planet, and this one is probably University College Dublin.

      The founders were from UCD, according to the "about Intune" page. ("Intune was founded in 1999 by two college graduates, John Dunne and Tom Farrell. They were performing research on tunable lasers and their network applications in University College Dublin, Ireland.")

      (I hope, for UCD's sake, that their Web designers aren't ex-UCD. Not only do they appear to think that "company" is spelled "copmany", the site is a Flash-infested mess that requires you to pop up several layers of menus, by clicking on little + signs, for each member of the management team whose biography you want to see.)

    3. Re:DWDM by pz · · Score: 2, Informative

      The problem I see with this is the fact that certain wavelengths have certain interfering effects with other wavelengths. For example, 660-670nm radiation coupled with 720-740nm IR radiation causes some odd effects, which plants happen to utilize in photosynthesis, but I don't think we've ever tested such effects against the communication of data.

      What planet are you living on? Non-linear interaction between frequencies of EM communication has been studied for not just years, but decades. It's well understood. The subject is covered in any decent first-year Electrical Engineering course, and covered in much more detail in any decent course on Signals and Systems. Given linear media, supperposition applies, and there's no interaction. Given non-linear media, you get frequency mixing; with accurate knowledge of the non-linear characteristics, you have exact knowledge of the mixing. This isn't new Physics, it's Science that's so well understood it's become Engineering.

      The parent post is a clear example of the need for -1, Naive.

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  10. Do they mean WDM? by 3.14159265 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Intune Networks (...) has developed a technology that can enable a single strand of fibre to move from carrying one signal from one operator to carrying data from 80 telecoms and TV companies all at once."

    Do they mean they have "invented" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength-division_multiplexing? I'm puzzled.

  11. Re:2.5 TB Capacity? by c0lo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, but being 2.5 TB/sec it will be only for a second.

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  12. Re:One Word: WOW !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    oh for God's Sake...

  13. So, when do we get color coded streets ? by sakari · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is something I've been pondering for a while, why don't we have color coded streets in our biggest cities so that navigation would be easier for us Human Beings ? Human Beings understand colors and places, and can put those two together in their little memories (brains they call them) and can use that information to easily assosiate things with other things, thus remembering for example that Main Street is blue and takes me to the Green Zone, and throught that I have to take the pink road, turn left and then follow the yellow lines, and boom, I'm at the Market Zone.

    Human Beings are so simple. I wish our Systems were too.

  14. Re:One Word: WOW !! by RivenAleem · · Score: 3, Funny

    We've seen your world, yer welcome to it.

  15. Divisive by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2, Funny

    Another thing for the Catholics & Prods to argue over. Who gets the green wires...

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    1. Re:Divisive by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

      Another thing for the Catholics & Prods to argue over. Who gets the green wires...

      That's not the problem. The problem come when they try to lay an orange wire in a catholic street or a green one in a protestant one.

    2. Re:Divisive by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Never mind the green wires, pity the uptimes of the poor bastards whose traffic goes over the black and tan ones...

  16. Re:Questions from an optoelectronics geek by cycoj · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wavelengths, we're pretty much always talking near-infrared. The most often used wavelength range is the so-called C-band (1530–1565 nm). This is mainly because this is where Erbium-doped fibre amplifiers work, which are necessary to create very long links without repeaters (also this is where the absorption minimum of fibres is). Less common is the L-band 1565-1625 nm. There's also the O and E band this are AFAIK mainly legacy bands which were used at the beginning of fibre optic communications. (Dense) Wavelength division multiplexing WDM/DWDM systems have channel spacings of 100 or 50 GHz bandwidth, i.e. ~1 or 0.5 nm at 1550 nm (look up ITU grid for more info). Today they usually carry 10 Gb/s data, however more and more 40 Gb/s and the next standard is 100 Gb/s (this actually uses multi-level phase and amplitude coding). About the pushing microwaves over optic lines, that's not really desired, absorption is too high, you also need diameters on the scale of a wavelength (depending on your index contrast) and finally you would not gain much, the bandwidth of your channels depends on your carrier frequency at microwave wavelengths the carrrier frequency is a couple of 100 GHz max. so that's the full bandwidth you get. compared to the C-band which contains about 70 channels at 100 GHz bandwidth each. So really no point.

  17. hmmm by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    so the irish are asserting that there are financial benefits in adapting this prismatic fibre optic technology?

    in other words, there is a pot of gold, at the end of the rainbow?

    where did the irish get such an idea?

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