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Millions of Home Routers Are Hackable

Julie188 writes "Craig Heffner, a researcher with Maryland-based security consultancy Seismic, plans to release a software tool at the Black Hat conference later this month that he says could be used on about half the existing models of home routers, including most Linksys, Dell, and Verizon FiOS or DSL versions. The tool apparently exploits the routers through DNS rebinding. While this technique has been discussed for 15 years or more, Heffner says, 'It just hasn't been put together like this before.'" Notebooks.com has a list of routers tested and some advice on securing vulnerable routers.

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  1. You mean besides using default admin/password... by hawks5999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    to log in.

  2. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The tool apparently exploits the routers through DNS rebinding. Wjhile this technique has been discussed for 15 years or more, Heffner says 'It just hasn't been put together like this before.'"

    Ha Ha! I changed my default username to "adjminstrator" and password to "passjword"! Good luck hjackers!

  3. "List of routers affected" is just a picture by Relayman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The "list of routers affected" at Notebooks.com is just a picture (.png) of a few rows of a spreadsheet. I would like the full list, please, even if just posted in a comment.

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    1. Re:"List of routers affected" is just a picture by Slippery+Pete · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Forbes article has a Google spreadsheet of the routers.

    2. Re:"List of routers affected" is just a picture by Cato · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a direct link to the spreadsheet of routers, without the IFRAME so it's easier to read: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Aupu_01ythaUdGZINXQ5Vi16X3hXb3VPYkszNXM0YXc&hl=en&output=html&widget=true

    3. Re:"List of routers affected" is just a picture by JayJay.br · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here ya go:

      Vendor Model H/W Version F/W Version Successful
      ActionTec MI424-WR Rev. C 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.11.6 YES
      ActionTec MI424-WR Rev. D 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.11.6 YES
      ActionTec GT704-WG N/A 3.20.3.3.5.0.9.2.9 YES
      ActionTec GT701-WG E 3.60.2.0.6.3 YES
      Asus WL-520gU N/A N/A YES
      Belkin F5D7230-4 2000 4.05.03 YES
      Belkin F5D7230-4 6000 N/A NO
      Belkin F5D7234-4 N/A 5.00.12 NO
      Belkin F5D8233-4v3 3000 3.01.10 NO
      Belkin F5D6231-4 1 2.00.002 NO
      D-Link DI-524 C1 3.23 NO
      D-Link DI-624 N/A 2.50DDM NO
      D-Link DIR-628 A2 1.22NA NO
      D-Link DIR-320 A1 1 NO
      D-Link DIR-655 A1 1.30EA NO
      DD-WRT N/A N/A v24 YES
      Dell TrueMobile 2300 N/A 5.1.1.6 YES
      Linksys BEFW11S4 1 1.37.2 YES
      Linksys BEFSR41 4.3 2.00.02 YES
      Linksys WRT54G3G-ST N/A N/A YES
      Linksys WRT54G2 N/A N/A NO
      Linksys WRT160N 1.1 1.02.2 YES
      Linksys WRT54G 3 3.03.9 YES
      Linksys WRT54G 5 1.00.4 NO
      Linksys WRT54GL N/A N/A YES
      Netgear WGR614 9 N/A NO
      Netgear WNR834B 2 2.1.13_2.1.13NA NO
      OpenWRT N/A N/A Kamikaze r16206 YES
      PFSense N/A N/A 1.2.3-RC3 YES
      Thomson ST585 6sl 6.2.2.29.2 YES

    4. Re:"List of routers affected" is just a picture by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From the article:

      "One comfort for users may be that Heffner's method still requires the attacker to compromise the victim's router after gaining access to his or her network."

      So, this is a problem if you've left your router with its default admin password, or there's a vulnerability in the firmware which can be exploited. The same as every other possible exploit of consumer^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^hall hardware.

      Who published this article? Oh, hey kdawson. Glad to see you're still on form. Seriously, let me filter this shit out of the RSS feed.

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    5. Re:"List of routers affected" is just a picture by mzs · · Score: 3, Informative

          Vendor    Model    H/W Version    F/W Version    Successful
          ActionTec    MI424-WR    Rev. C    4.0.16.1.56.0.10.11.6    YES
          ActionTec    MI424-WR    Rev. D    4.0.16.1.56.0.10.11.6    YES
          ActionTec    GT704-WG    N/A    3.20.3.3.5.0.9.2.9    YES
          ActionTec    GT701-WG    E    3.60.2.0.6.3    YES
          Asus    WL-520gU    N/A    N/A    YES
          Belkin    F5D7230-4    2000    4.05.03    YES
          Belkin    F5D7230-4    6000    N/A    NO
          Belkin    F5D7234-4    N/A    5.00.12    NO
          Belkin    F5D8233-4v3    3000    3.01.10    NO
          Belkin    F5D6231-4    1    2.00.002    NO
          D-Link    DI-524    C1    3.23    NO
          D-Link    DI-624    N/A    2.50DDM    NO
          D-Link    DIR-628    A2    1.22NA    NO
          D-Link    DIR-320    A1    1    NO
          D-Link    DIR-655    A1    1.30EA    NO
          DD-WRT    N/A    N/A    v24    YES
          Dell    TrueMobile 2300    N/A    5.1.1.6    YES
          Linksys    BEFW11S4    1    1.37.2    YES
          Linksys    BEFSR41    4.3    2.00.02    YES
          Linksys    WRT54G3G-ST    N/A    N/A    YES
          Linksys    WRT54G2    N/A    N/A    NO
          Linksys    WRT160N    1.1    1.02.2    YES
          Linksys    WRT54G    3    3.03.9    YES
          Linksys    WRT54G    5    1.00.4    NO
          Linksys    WRT54GL    N/A    N/A    YES
          Netgear    WGR614    9    N/A    NO
          Netgear    WNR834B    2    2.1.13_2.1.13NA    NO
          OpenWRT    N/A    N/A    Kamikaze r16206    YES
          PFSense    N/A    N/A    1.2.3-RC3    YES
          Thomson    ST585    6sl    6.2.2.29.2    YES

  4. I can believe it... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At one point, just out of morbid curiosity, I cranked up a copy of OpenVAS(the OSS fork of nessus) and told it to just hit everything on my home network with all "safe" tests(the program offers the option of either including or excluding tests that are likely to crash/DOS the target, rather than simply confirm/deny the presence of a vulnerability).

    When the run was finished, all the real computers in the house had passed, with the exception of a few informational messages(Hey! this computer is running an SSH server, did you do that or should you be freaking out right now?). On the other hand, I had to physically reset over half of the assorted little-bitty-embedded-plastic-boxes-of-various-network-functions to get them working again.

    And that was with the "safe" tests.

    Based on the version and vulnerability information being reported(for devices that I do, in fact, update vendor firmwares on, when those are available) the state of consumer embedded devices is absolutely fucking pathetic. Blatantly outdated and known-vulnerable services listening merrily away in the latest vendor firmwares for products less than a year old...

    1. Re:I can believe it... by Charliemopps · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You should see the state of commercial routers... it's almost as bad.

    2. Re:I can believe it... by Manip · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Indeed. I found a bug in a D-Link DIR-655 and was completely unable to report it to them. I couldn't even log into their support system because according to them I don't own my own router (serial already in use) and couldn't find a more technical or security contact at the company.

      The product still contains the bug - it is also using the latest firmware.

    3. Re:I can believe it... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately, with many, if not all, of the consumer networking brands these days, the most technical guy on staff is the "chief sticker engineer", who makes sure that the right adhesives are used when rebadging OEM products, or maybe the CAD guy who modifies the OEM plastic case to have the appropriate brand name embossed in it...

    4. Re:I can believe it... by GooberToo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And yet to be topical, the article is complete bullshit.

      In order to be compromised, you must first be compromised! Well, no shit! The author then goes on to explain that this is easy because most people don't change their router's password.

      So to summarize the story, if your system is easily compromised, expect to be further compromised. If your system is not compromised, then nothing has changed. In other words, people who don't lock their door in high crime areas experience higher rates of property theft. News at 11.

      I personally don't find this interesting, let alone news worthy.

  5. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by ickleberry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    it seems that changing the password would render this hack fairly useless. also many routers are only accessible through a private IP, so even changing the router's IP would work unless the script tries all the addresses on the local network and then tries to brute force the router, but that would take years since I would assume its written in JavaShit

  6. Exactly what is the sploit? by osgeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just trying to understand this...

    But a site can have multiple IP addresses, a flexibility in the system designed to let sites balance traffic among multiple servers or provide backup options.

    Heffner's trick is to create a site that lists a visitor's own IP address as one of those options. When a visitor comes to his booby-trapped site, a script runs that switches to its alternate IP address--in reality the user's own IP address--and accesses the visitor's home network, potentially hijacking their browser and gaining access to their router settings.

    How does your DNS stack pick up a new IP address for a host name once it's already been resolved? I don't understand the mechanism for this part of the exploit. Anyone?

    Okay, so let's say the attacker can pull this part off without a problem...

    One comfort for users may be that Heffner's method still requires the attacker to compromise the victim's router after gaining access to his or her network. But that can be accomplished by using a vulnerability in the device's software or by simply trying the default login password. Only a tiny fraction of users actually change their router's login settings, says Heffner.

    So, then the hacker has to rely no the browser running some javascript in the victim's browser that will actually break the security of the victim's gateway router?

    Definitely your vulnerability goes up once an attacker can approach your gateway from the inside, but this isn't a free pass through everyone's home system. Seems like just changing your default password is a great first step to prevent any shenanigans.

    1. Re:Exactly what is the sploit? by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Informative

      As I understand it, it generally works like this: You set a ridiculously short TTL on the server hosting the exploit. When a victim connects you grab their IP address, add it and any other likely target IPs to the list of A records for the server and reload the zone. Your attack code just needs to wait for the TTL to expire, DNS to refresh and then try and connect to the target, which now appears to come from an attack on a trusted network.

      Going to be interesting to see what this talk is going to add to the mix though... Either way, now would be a really good time to change any easy to remember, alpha-numeric only device passwords, if you've got any.

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    2. Re:Exactly what is the sploit? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is the first step. In fact, apart from a firmware vulnerability or some REALLY shocking DMZ setup, you're going to leave this attack with nowhere to go just by changing from the default password. There might be a second exploit in the form of a dictionary attack tacked on to the end, but that's not what the article is about.

      It's not that big a deal. It's a headline of the type you're likely to find in the Daily Mail; Sensationalist and inaccurate. There might be more info in the future which justifies the grandeur of the statement, but right now (pre-Black Hat) it's just bullshit sensationalist speculation from Slashdot's specialist on the matter.

      (Yeah, i'm getting a chip on my shoulder about this guy.)

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    3. Re:Exactly what is the sploit? by galaad2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      no password at all? try "impossible to even set a password"

      on December 19th 2008 i bought a Sweex LW300 wireless router ( http://sweex.nl/lw300 ) only to discover that the damn telnet service would not require a password AT ALL if you connected from the inside network.

      Even if i set a password for the web admin interface, cycled power two or three times, it was all for nothing. The telnet service was left wide open for anyone on the internal network (including wireless). Not even the passwd command was working.

      When i saw this i promptly returned the damn box and got a linksys instead (this was on December 22nd).

      Unfortunately the replacement linksys router i got is another piece of crap and i was stuck with that. I found i was given the V2 of WRT160N only when i unwrapped the box at home.
      WRT160N V2 is a piece of crap (ralink chipset => random router crashes, no ddwrt/openwrt on it) that made me avoid ever buying another Cisco/Linksys. All the routers i bought since then for our customers were other brands, in total about 10 thousand euros of lost sales for Cisco/Linksys because of that one crap router they saddled me with for Christmas 2008. You can imagine how that Christmas felt like :(

      some system info for the Sweex LW300 with the telnet open root shell:
      Linux (none) 2.6.17 #832 Tue Dec 4 15:39:35 CST 2007 armv5tejl unknown

      Processor : ARM926EJ-Sid(wb) rev 5 (v5l)
      BogoMIPS : 285.90
      Features : swp half fastmult edsp java
      CPU implementer : 0x41
      CPU architecture: 5TEJ
      CPU variant : 0x0
      CPU part : 0x926
      CPU revision : 5
      Cache type : write-back
      Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops
      Cache lockdown : format C
      Cache format : Harvard
      I size : 16384
      I assoc : 4
      I line length : 32
      I sets : 128
      D size : 16384
      D assoc : 4
      D line length : 32
      D sets : 128

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    4. Re:Exactly what is the sploit? by DrgnDancer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A dictionary attack using JavaScript in your own browser? Even assuming there is no lockout time for login attempts built into the router that would take fricking forever, and it would be interrupted the moment you closed your browser. This seems like it would be a vector for a firmware bug attack or for an attempt at obvious default passwords. Otherwise it would almost certainly fail.

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    5. Re:Exactly what is the sploit? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Excellent! So, I was correct in labelling this whole shitty story as another inflammatory chod-fest at the hands of Slashdot's very own version of the Daily Mail, kdawson.

      Will he never cease to amaze me?!

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    6. Re:Exactly what is the sploit? by BZ · · Score: 3, Informative

      > How does your DNS stack pick up a new IP address for a host name once it's already been
      > resolved?

      It doesn't. The way you do this is to return a list of two IP addresses for the hostname when it's first resolved; the first IP is your server and the second is the user's router.

      Then you serve stuff up as normal. When you want to carry out an attack, you point the browser to a url that has your hostname (probably in an iframe that's part of your page) and have your server refuse the connection. When that happens the browser will fall back to the next IP in the list and try it (that's how round-robin DNS works), and load a page from the router; if you pick the path part of your url right, this would be the login page. Now the key here is that web browser security policies are based on hostnames, not IP addresses. So the router's login page is now same-origin with yours and you can run script that does things to it. Like filling in the default admin username/password and submitting the form, for example. Or direct XMLHttpRequest access with the right Cookie headers, whatever.

      Changing the default password definitely helps.

      Some browsers are working on changes that would deny attempts to connect from a public IP to one on the local network, no matter what the hostnames are. That would stop this cold.

    7. Re:Exactly what is the sploit? by Magic5Ball · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > in total about 10 thousand euros of lost sales for Cisco/Linksys because of that one crap router they saddled me with for Christmas 2008

      So their filter against non-profitable clients has worked as expected.

      Each time a human at Linksys touches a customer, the company incurs at least 5 euro in costs. Since Linksys relies on retail volume and not consultation for their consumer sales, it's to their financial advantage to never hear from customers once the sale has been made, and especially to their advantage not to have to respond to unending lists of complaints or questions from detail-oriented customers. That same 10,000 euro of kit sold to 200 customers who do not generally know enough to complain is much more profitable to Linksys than if it were sold to you since you have both the aptitude and time to complain, but not effectively. (If you had complained effectively, you would have received a successful resolution from Linksys and both parties would have benefitted directly.)

      Instead, they've successfully outsourced through you, and with no compensation to you, a few hundred euro of support costs to their competitors, and avoided losing their very thin margin on 10,000 euro of sales. And since you only deal in 10,000 euro of kit a year spread out over many sites and much time (and thus many purchase orders and incidents requiring human intervention), you're no big future loss either since selling one 10,000 euro pizza box to one customer is about 10 minutes of work for anyone in corporate sales, plus they would get to sell a support contract to go with it.

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  7. Browser Issue by Manip · · Score: 2, Informative

    First things first, you can block most of these attacks by setting a new router password and or changing the router's default IP. Secondly browsers could very easily solve this by disallowing mixed local (192.*, 10.*, 0.*, 127.*) and remote IP addresses from a single site. If it is a local server it won't be load balancing with something on the Internet and the reverse is equally true.

    1. Re:Browser Issue by Grandim · · Score: 2, Informative

      10.0.0.0/8 172.16.0.0/12 192.168.0.0/16 0.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.0/8 You missed some privates and you had some legitimate publics listed has private.

  8. default configs on routers are a joke by ergrthjuyt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    default configs on routers are a joke. Last I checked, linksys routers still tended towards unsecured wireless networks and default passwords. While extremely convenient, most users will abruptly drop the setup process once they can connect to the internet on their laptop. What the router firmware needs to do is force the user to set up a password and a security protocol before allowing direct access to the internet.

    Before this step is taken, every other "security" exploit is a joke in comparison.

  9. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That would actually probably help a lot(though not as much as a real password).

    In any exploitation scenario where the router login page isn't simply sitting on the WAN side, happily accepting all comers to try their luck, the hypothetical attacker would probably use a list of default username/password pairs for common router brands, or a list of known exploits for common router models.

    Even the most trivial password change would save you entirely from the former, and no password change available would save you from the latter. A password brute-force attack system, written in javascript and injected via the method described, is conceivable; but it would only have until you close the browser window, and it would be subject to any rate-limiting imposed by the router's login page or the browser's JS engine, so it would probably be pretty tepid.

    Obviously, if you are going to change your password, change it right; but the difference between default password and bad password is likely a good deal greater than the difference between bad password and good password, when it comes to crackability...

  10. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets see: Make sure you have a strong Admin password on your router

    Check

    and don't surf p0rn/warez sites. Thank you Captain Obvious!

    Uhm - any solution that relies on you not browsing to an infected site is not a solution.

  11. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by AnonymousClown · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lets see: Make sure you have a strong Admin password on your router and don't surf p0rn/warez sites. Thank you Captain Obvious!

    I get more hacking attempts when I search for and try to look at Christina Hendricks images than I ever do from all the porn sits combined.

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  12. a problem we're too lazy to solve by digitalsushi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The issue is that the web servers on these little CPEs, and also lots of just general intranet websites, is that they do not inspect the Host: header of the incoming HTTP request. So when someone DNS rebinds your initial request to evil.com, your browser sends this host to the CPE, and the CPE ignores it. Unfortunately, there's no good way to match a host header on a CPE management page because who assigns DNS for their internal networks? Geeks, that's who. No one else. So when you connect by IP address to your gateway, the host isn't even set at all.

    This is one of those things that SSL certificates can solve. I learned two weeks ago here on slashdot, thanks to another poster, that you can get free level 1 SSL certificates signed by startssl.com. I got mine returned in about 2 hours, and had it working with 10 minutes of work. Granted, I am not going to be able to reprogram the proprietary CPE with an SSL certificate, but hopefully a few of you find this link useful and can get your hobby website running with SSL, like I was able to do.

    Even though you can change the credentials of your website (CPE, wiki, accounting system with web interface), it's still very possible for someone to brute force these credentials. Anything that can be realized with javascript is possible.

    The best solution is DNS pinning... your browser locks the website to the initial IP of a round-robin A record response. This is horrible for the general health of the Internet, but not a bad solution for people who wish to avoid these styles of attacks. Me, I'll take my chances with the attacks...

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  13. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Make sure you have a strong Admin password on your router..."

    Which does you no good if your browser remembers your router's admin name and password - or did you miss the bit in the article where part of this hack is subverting your browser to actually do the dirty work?

    "...and don't surf p0rn/warez sites."

    Because advertiser sites never get hacked, nor do normal sites. Only porn and warez sites ever serve malware.

    Better to turn off scripting on your browser by default, and only enable it for sites you trust, and NEVER let your browser remember passwords.

  14. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ha Ha! I changed my default username to "adjminstrator" and password to "passjword"! Good luck hjackers!

    Wouldn't stop them if they're Swedish!

    And yes, I'm an insensitive Cljod!

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  15. Only half? It's probably a lot more by davidwr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Odds are the good guys haven't found all the vulnerable ones.

    Oh, if you count routers left in their default configuration + human vulnerability to social engineering attacks, the number would be well over 50% even without any actual design flaws. This assumes having a common default login isn't itself a design flaw - which I think it is.

    On that note, 2-Wire does it right: They have random-looking default management passwords printed on the bottom of most of their modem-routers. There is no universal "default login" you can look up on the Interwebs.

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  16. Consumers DONT CARE by netsavior · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is only a problem when a geek looks at it, the average consumer doesn't really care, and they are right to not care.

  17. Re:OEM firmware? by natehoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Probably not, but you're still better off making sure you are running the latest of your choice of firmware (Tomato just released a new version a couple of weeks ago, go get it now!).

    Doesn't hurt to make sure that you only allow https connections to the router's admin page (which means in Tomato that you'll get the inconvenient-but-useful "unverified certificate!" warning in Firefox that takes many ugly steps to get around, and as far as I know cannot be scripted), and setting a reasonably complex password.

    And don't assume that your local network is "safe". Run software firewalls and avoid things like open network shares.

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  18. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Funny

    I get more hacking attempts when I search for and try to look at Christina Hendricks images than I ever do from all the porn sits combined.

    Yes but going by the "I'll know it when I see it" definition, any image of that woman in a dress qualifies as pr0n . . .

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  19. Re:DD-WRT+OpenDNS FTW by lyinhart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nope. According the article, OpenDNS doesn't make a difference and DD-WRT v24 was one of the router firmwares that was successfully exploited.

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  20. Re:DD-WRT+OpenDNS FTW by homes32 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just had to post that everyone should be running OpenDNS and if possible DD-WRT of Tomato (for homes). You just cant beat that combo. It's fast, secure, and offers tons of security/configuration features that no one else does.

    and that no one else knows how to use. Lets face it. most uses don't even know that its possible login to their "wireless box" and change settings; let alone replace the firmware with a 3rd party distro. as far as their concerned the guy that installed the internet just plugged it in and it needs to be there or their laptop can't get internet. don't get me wrong. I love Tomato, but saying "everyone should run [insert some firmware here]" is not a solution to the problem. the problem is the idiot tech ( and in some cases, non-tech people smart enough to setup their own router) not changing the default password on the router when he installs it.

  21. Re:DD-WRT+OpenDNS FTW by anamin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And yet DD-WRT is on the list of vulnerable firmware.

  22. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by pinkushun · · Score: 5, Insightful
  23. Re:Thank you Captain Obvious by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Funny

    > ...NEVER let your browser remember passwords.

    Never let it remember important passwords. There's no harm in letting it store passwords for trivial sites such as Slashdot.

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  24. "Publish or Perish ..." by udippel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Everyone knows this; and one way or another in these sicko days of ours, one simply has to make the headlines to grab attention; followed by get-rich-quick.
    Fine. Let them try. I wished, though, some clever chap in Slashdot would have vetted the whole lot sufficiently, to dump it where it belongs: into the trash-bin.

    Here is why: Because it actually is an attack. An attack that works for dumbos only. For people, who ought not legally be allowed to buy an access point or whatnot.

    Here is the attack: assume router XYZ by default comes with username 'root' and password '12345'. The same router, as default or after reset, offers dhcp in 192.168.1.0/24, with 192.168.1.1 as gateway address. Then, following the trick, some 192.168.1.0/24-address becomes available on the outside (WAN). So when you blindly send 'root' and '12345' to 192.168.1.1 (to the box), from the outside, you're in.
    As I said, yes, it is an attack. But for any sane setup it will fail miserably, because you have changed the internal network; and most of all, you changed at least the password.
    I dunno, and haven't tried - because I have better things to do with my time - if any of those spoofing-filters that simply drop RFC1918-compliant addresses on the WAN-side would also fail the proposed attack, despite of default network, username and default password.

    Shakespeare would probably have called this 'much ado about peanuts'. And as far as I am concerned, anyone who actually is vulnerable, should be slapped with a court order restricting him or her from touching, buying, setting up or administrating any network equipment until further notice, including home networks.

  25. pfSense 2.0 has been patched by sullrich · · Score: 2, Informative

    We made changes to pfSense 2.0-BETAS that prevents the DNS rebinding attacks thanks to Craig's help.

  26. Heretic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdot is *the* most important site. For you to call it "trivial" is a most wicked sin.

  27. Simple solution, don't use your router for DNS by Passman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As someone pointed out a comment on the Forbes story, this exploit can only affect you if you are getting DNS through the router.

    Simply using a static IP & DNS for your computer on your local network would make you immune to this. In situations where using a static IP is not possible (a friend's house, public wifi, etc.) just set your DNS servers statically and you should be fine.

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  28. I miss the good old days by X.25 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really miss the good old days, where presentations done on security seminars were revolutionary and technical.

    How the hell a mediocre presentation (more related to statistics than security) can make it into Blackhat?

    Oh, I forgot that Blackhat hasn't been a conference but a business, for a long time now.

  29. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just serve up a web page that looks exactly like your router's settings menu. They'll log in with admin / admin and THINK they're in. In reality they're just playing with widgets that aren't bound to anything at all.

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  30. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by Magic5Ball · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The attack relies on the attacker being able to guess the victim router's internal IP address, and to associate a host name of their choice with that internal address. Most routers will use their manufacturers' default addresses which are easy to guess. Since DNS rebinding relies on chance, forcing the attacker to make more incorrect guesses lowers the success rate of the attack. Therefore, attackers are unlikely to attempt to guess all of 10/8 or 192.168/16 etc. (tens of thousands of possibilities) when the vast majority of router addresses are at their defaults of 10.(0|8).(0|1).1 or 192.168.(0|1|123).1 etc. (around a dozen possibilities).

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  31. Re:Noscript doesn't prevent this exploit? by mzs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    img src="http://sasdfreercf.example.com/cgi-bin/foo.pl?bar=baz"

  32. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course, the sensible thing to do if you can't depend on your router to resolve IPs correctly (like if you don't own or have access to it) is to set your localhost to point DNS requests directly to a trusted IP address. Or, even better (if you're really paranoid), run your own bind.

  33. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Funny, that's what Zyxel modems by CenturyLink default to. They also happen to have Telnet and Web Access enabled by default to the internal and external world.

    I've never heard of that manufacturer, but that's just plain bad, not sad. Telnet was useful back in the days when the internet was so small, many of us users actually knew each other, but I can't think of a single legitimate reason (excuse) to allow it to run now.

  34. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by HolyCrapSCOsux · · Score: 2, Interesting

    here is a single legitimate reason for telnet.

    nethack.alt.org

    you could run your own...

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  35. Re:You mean besides using default admin/password.. by Ihmhi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then they click submit and BAM you hit 'em with tubgirl.