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DARPA To Turn Humans Into Batteries

DARPA is working on a project that will convert energy from the human body to power a variety of military gadgets. From the article: "Obviously, our bodies generate heat — thermal energy. They also produce vibrations when we move — kinetic energy. Both forms of energy can be converted into electricity. Anantha Chandrakasan, an MIT electrical engineering professor, who is working on the problem with a former student named Yogesh Ramadass, says the challenge is to harvest adequate amounts of power from the body and then efficiently direct it to the device that needs it." If I remember the movie correctly, this didn't turn out so well for the humans.

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  1. Matrix Jokes ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

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    1. Re:Matrix Jokes ... by Rijnzael · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now what's really going to get you later on is, would people have made Matrix jokes if you hadn't said anything?

    2. Re:Matrix Jokes ... by capnchicken · · Score: 4, Funny
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    3. Re:Matrix Jokes ... by happy_place · · Score: 3, Funny

      Here's a joke from the Matrix's central core...

      Q. How many humans does it take to change a lightbulb?

      A. Humans don't change lightbulbs, they power lightbulbs.

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    4. Re:Matrix Jokes ... by capnchicken · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes. Yes they would. It doesn't take an Oracle to predict slashdot, hell you can predict it with DB2! Zing!

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    5. Re:Matrix Jokes ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    6. Re:Matrix Jokes ... by emocomputerjock · · Score: 4, Funny

      What other two Matrix movies?

    7. Re:Matrix Jokes ... by TheLink · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So it just means that "real world" is actually still a "matrix".

      The idea that humans are batteries is just what Morpheus claimed. It may be true in the inner Matrix world, but may not be for the outer matrix worlds. Remember even in the first movie the question was asked: "What if when you woke up, you didn't know the difference between the dream world, and the real world?"

      My interpretation is the Oracle is trying to upgrade herself- she believes humans have something the machines don't.

      Think of the whole thing as a "hybrid/breeding program".

      Neo is likely at least partly a machine (and a special one). The Oracle gives Neo a cookie to add features/upgrades at critical moments.

      After each world iteration, Neo has a chance of becoming more human but crucially retaining the abilities of machines.

      Smith goes about merging with all the humans and other machines, including the Oracle (who still somehow retains enough of herself to prompt Neo), and Neo merges with Smith.

      If things go fine, the Oracle gets her upgrade...

      As the Architect said, the Oracle is playing a dangerous game.

      But life is dangerous :).

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  2. Question by xednieht · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is mankind so obsessed with harvesting energy from the rarest sources in the universe? Why not start with the most abundant sources?

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    1. Re:Question by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because doing that would make farting both a socially acceptable behavior and a viable industry.

    2. Re:Question by thijsh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because even without the malaria health-risks mosquito's are way to hard to milk...

    3. Re:Question by Exitar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because harvesting energy from stupidity isn't a trivial task.

  3. I'm Not Fat! by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a D Cell battery!

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  4. average human is 75-watt light bulb by peter303 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Auditorium A/C designers know that - about one watt per kilogram resting, triple that when aerobic. Many portable electronics devices can run off a few percent of that energy. It would be nice to capture that energy mechanically, thermally, or chemically.

    1. Re:average human is 75-watt light bulb by nightfire-unique · · Score: 3, Funny

      Auditorium A/C designers know that - about one watt per kilogram resting, triple that when aerobic. Many portable electronics devices can run off a few percent of that energy. It would be nice to capture that energy mechanically, thermally, or chemically.

      Sir, what exactly do you have in mind? :)

      Instruction manual told you to put the anode where?!

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  5. Re:No AI yet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Al Gore or AI Gore?

    Dammit, I need serifs!!! At least we don't have to worry about A1 Gore.

  6. Here's my solution by david.emery · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you want (a) power; (b) biometric identification; (c) biological status/health monitoring, consider the Rectal Thermocouple... This will normally generate substantial additional power in combat as an added benefit. :-)

  7. Terrible implications by srealm · · Score: 4, Funny

    OK, so humans become mobile power sources.

    I really don't want to see a guy on the side of the road with wires shoved up his arse trying to jump his car to start because his battery is dead.
    *clench* "Try it now!"

    That said, I guess the BDSM scene can now do something useful after attaching the alligator clamps to their nipples.

  8. Pre-Matrix joke... by PatHMV · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dura-cell is PEOPLE! (said in best Charlton Heston voice)

  9. Re:Wrong direction for soldiers? by david.emery · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe they won't have to carry all of the extra batteries, which will help.

    Seriously*, you've hit a significant advantage. The normal 'basic load' of batteries is 30 days, from what I remember, and carrying those batteries around, particularly in Ranger/light infantry/Special Ops units is a tremendous drag. Whatever technique gets used, though, has to account for the fact that light infantry soldiers spend a lot of time being still (because what moves can be seen, and what can be seen will be shot...), so either you need some technique to store the power or you need something that can generate some amount of power when the soldier is not moving.

    * for humor on this topic, see my other post ;-)

  10. Re:How many KiloCalories if you burn a human? by tpwch · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its a pretty easy calculation. According to google an average non-overweight human is about 15% fat and 18% protein (the protein number varies a bit depending on the source, but lets use 18% for this calculation).

    A gram of fat is 9 kcal and a gram of protein is 4 kcal for a person. Not sure if there is anything else in the human body that would store energy, the carbohydate amount is small enough that its neglegible.

    So a person weighing 75 kilos would have 155 250 kcal in his body. I imagine that when burning that however a lot of the energy would be lost to evaporating the water in the human body.

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