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Girl Seeks Help On Facebook During Assault

A 12-year-old girl who was being assaulted by her mother's ex-boyfriend used some quick thinking by sending a message on her iPod to a friend's Facebook account for help. The friend was able to contact the girl's mother who then contacted the police. 42-year-old Raymond Ernest Cesmat was arrested and charged with two counts of criminal sexual conduct in the first degree. He is being held at the Dakota County Jail on $175,000 bail.

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  1. Re:Mother... by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some women have the worst taste in men. I had an aunt who would climb a tree to find the worst possible guy when she could have stood on the ground and dated a nice guy. She dated a string of guys literally coming right out of prison. Needless to say, she took a string of beatings, was stabbed a couple of times, her kids were beaten. The family finally just cut her off and told her that they weren't going to help her anymore until she started making smarter decisions. AFAIK, she never did (her kids cut off contact with her long ago too).

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  2. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I knew how to hunt, whittle, clean fish and still pulled a knife on someone in anger at age 13. I mean, looking back, I was being bullied relentlessly over a significant period of time, but for some reason that wasn't considered justification for attempting to gut an adult. People don't want 12 year olds to defend themselves, because being 12 sucks and we don't want to expend the resources to make sure it doesn't.

  3. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by Herkum01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    More like 1 act of self-defense does not negate the 100 murder's, robberies and suicides.

    But don't let facts stop you now!

  4. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by sarhjinian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Arming everyone is a very American solution to the problem. Somehow, the whole rest of the western world manages to not only have less violent crime, but also less private gun ownership, much like the rest of the world manages to spend less on health care and get better quality of service, or spend less on education but score better.

    Perhaps the Open Carry folk could try and think a little bit harder and try to address the epidemic poverty, horrible education and nonsensical drug policy instead of pouring more gasoline on the fire?

    I'm reminded of the "cheese theory" of American socialism. In France, the government has significant regulations about how, where and under what label cheese can be made. As a result, French cheese is very good and not at all expensive. In the US, this kind of thing wouldn't fly, and the market would do better anyway, and socialism is teh evilz, but we do need something for the absolute poor, and thus we have Government Cheese, which is vile.

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  5. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I lived in chicago for a long time... the best is to keep your money on a money clip and seperate from your wallet. when robbed, take out the money clip and drop it and walk away fast, their eyes will be on the cash not you.

    works great. Works best when it's a thick wad of 1's covered with a 20 dollar bill and a pocket full of change.. I drop it at their feet and yell "TAKE IT" as I walk away... they always grab the cash and run. Most of the time it's a crackhead looking for dope money.. so $30.00 in $1.00 bills and a 20 looks like a fortune to them. you are long gone by the time they realize you joe' jobbed them.

    works good for bums too... Asking for change, grab some out of the pocket and drop it, keep walking. They stop to grab the change.

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  6. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by nbauman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they did not have a gun, then it would have been a knife. Dont even dare to try and make it sound like that the gun perpetuated the violence.. It was the unstable person that did it.

    Unstable wackjobs will do what ever it takes... Ohh look, a wine bottle, that will kill someone nicely.

    Doctors who try to fix these victims up, and cops who investigate murders to prosecute them in court, say that's not true.

    It's a lot easier to kill somebody on impulse with a gun -- guns are designed to be easy to kill people. If you hit them with a wine bottle, you won't necessarily kill them, and they can defend themselves or run away. If you shoot them from close range, they're most likely to be dead.

    Take a fight. Somebody might get hurt. Add a gun. Somebody gets killed.

    I remember a cop describing a typical murder: because there was a gun handy, the guy shot his wife. If he didn't have a gun, he would have slugged her. The next day they would have made up, and gone on with their lives. Now he's lost his wife, going to prison for a long term, and two lives are ruined.

    If you can kill somebody with a wine bottle if you really want to, then why do you need a gun? Why don't you carry a wine bottle around for protection?

  7. Been there done that by g33korama · · Score: 2, Interesting

    True Story: I remember back a decade and a half ago when my father was hot tempered and would get drunk that I had a friend on chat contact the police for me (this was back in the big AOL days) when he went crazy and started throwing shit around the house and breaking things. The internet can be a life saver.

  8. Re:wait, this is slashdot by tibit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, I wasn't clear: I meant to imply pedophiles who act on their urges. Mere mental issue that somehow never gets a pedophile into abusing a child is not what I was after. I wonder how may of those are out there -- it's a genuine question. Do all pedophiles end up hurting a child? Are there any studies on that out there?

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  9. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they did not have a gun, then it would have been a knife.

    That, IMO is a healthier way of going about self-defence. If you want to kill (or even maim) someone, standing at any distance with a gun is a comparatively uninvolved way of going about it. But if you're using a knife, you have to be serious about it, and be prepared for all that blood and mess. If you seriously want someone dead, a knife is at least a more "honest" way of going about it.

    I have never in my near-half-century lifetime held, let alone fired a gun, and I intend to keep it that way. However, that doesn't mean I have to be a shrinking violet when it comes to defending myself.

  10. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think it's a stretch to imagine that 12-year old girls are generally underrepresented in gun ownership as well as in accidental gun deaths and that perhaps these could be related.

    Actually that's quite the stretch. 12 year old girls are generally underrepresented in automobile ownership yet they die almost every day in automobile crashes. Figure that one out.

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  11. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can at least somewhat fight someone who has a knife

    You don't know much about self-defense. I've had training in defending against attacks with both firearms and knives. Knives are the tougher proposition by far. You can disable a firearm by pushing it out of battery (automatic) or locking up the cylinder (revolver). You can render it impotent by grabbing onto it and pointing it away from you. Grabbing onto a knife is generally not advised.

    He certainly won't be able to go on a mass killing spree

    You've never heard of the Osaka school massacre have you?

    or kill me from a mile away

    You could probably count on one hand the number of people in the world that could kill you from a mile away with a small arm.

    it hardly stopped shootouts in the Wild West

    The "Wild West" is largely a myth that was created by Hollywood.

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  12. Come on, buddy by copponex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A drill or a socket wrench cannot kill you if you drop it, or if you think it's unloaded, or if you get angry with your pregnant stepmother and decide to kill her while she sleeps.

    Guns are designed to destroy life. They make it too easy to turn short term emotion into permanent tragedy. Throw in accidents, carelessness, sociopaths, and the primate violence found in all human societies, and there's no reason not to regulate it just like we regulate explosives or dangerous chemicals.

    Having said that, I am aware that it's far more dangerous to own a pool than it is to own a gun, if you're worried about kids dying. And driving is probably up there in a similar risk pool. But the reason that guns should be regulated is because they make it very easy to take someone else's life by choice as well as by accident.

  13. Re:Mother... by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You can judge people with your intuition, but I prefer to judge people based on my intelligence and logic skills. I don't need to know what you look like in order to judge you, I can tell merely by the type of arguments and reasoning you use.

    Precisely why Lady Liberty is often shown wearing a blindfold.

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  14. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by alexo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And yet conservatives plug their ears and scream "I CANT HEAR YOU" when you present the solid and provenfact that gun laws STOP gun violence

    I assume you have some statistics to back your claims. Do you mind sharing them with us?

  15. Re:Why's this on Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That guy you spoke of is free, because the us-gov could not or would not provide the swiss authorities, with the material they needed to verify or deverify a claim made by that guys defense. I don't know what whoever said in your television, but i do know that his(the guy you probably meant) is free again, because your government declares every shit as top secret and think they don't need to provide it to other country courts. Yeah they (your government) said so and because of that what they said must be true? Wrong it was a court and they needed to prove it! And i say the swiss court made the right decision to let him go.