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Jolicloud 1.0 Has an HTML5 UI
kai_hiwatari writes "Jolicloud 1.0, a Linux based OS for netbooks, was launched a few days back. In this new release, the developers have completely replaced the old interface based on Ubuntu Netbook Remix in favor of a new one based on HTML5. Jolicloud 1.0 also features a new syncing feature using which you can sync installed applications across all your systems running on Jolicloud. Other interesting features includes new app center, social stream, etc."
Why does it have cloud in its name? Just to attract attention or is there some related feature?
having tried jolicloud beta, I wholeheartedly look forward to the finished product. The UNR-based GUI was nice, but if i wanted UNR, I'd freakin' run UNR on it.
Cloud html5 app syncing is great, but I'm curious if they've got 4g back compatible web 3.0 blueface interballs technology for the kind of futureproof idevice demands the superuser of yestermorrow is sure to be told he needs.
Now the kicker, does it run beowulf? Last time I tried to stync my grendel module .99x was torn to pieces before the crowdsourced beta swarm could move to India.
This is truly an historic post.
Darn! that should have been a comma. Oh well, no one will miss a few pixels of a difference. Oh wait...
However if you want to make a statement stand out as something a little bit more emphasized, the use of the wrong article is a commonly occuring phenomenon. At least that is how I have figured it out.
No. You're wrong. Read the note at the bottom of your source:
Note: The choice of article is actually based upon the phonetic (sound) quality of the first letter in a word, not on the orthographic (written) representation of the letter.
Because HTML is an abbreviation, you say the name of the letter 'H', and not the 'H' sound itself. Because the name of the letter H begins with a long 'A' sound, "Jolicloud 1.0 Has an HTML5 UI" is correct, and "Jolicloud 1.0 Has a HTML5 UI" is not.
You can't really call it 'launched' when only select people have it. You can't DL it yet (it's still the pre-release available for DL) and if you already have it, you have to wait for them to allow you to upgrade.
It's not launched. It's in preview.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
Jolicloud.
Tell me why the geek's mind turn to mush when it comes to marketing his projects.
Is it "all the sugar and twice the caffeine" in his Jolt Cola?
BAHAHA. Few things are as satisfying as seeing a spelling/grammar nazi fuck up his own smartass correction.
I worry that this will be like Java apps; a way to make UIs and performance even worse. HTML is great, and HTML 5 is a clear improvement; but it certainly is nowhere near the performance, stability, and ease of use of an application designed a little closer to the hardware.
I've seen many decent programs ruined as companies tossed the client software they had written in C++ or even VB, and move to web-based UIs. Programming things in HTML 5 that would be best written in any of a dozen other languages will just stigmatize HTML 5, kind of the way you get a sinking feeling in your stomach when you fire up a new program and realize, while it's churning, that it's written in Java.
I don't do prescriptivist "grammar" (I'm a linguist and value language as it is actually used, and many prescriptivists "rules" don't even make sense), but even if you do follow their advice, note:
Note: The choice of article is actually based upon the phonetic (sound) quality of the first letter in a word, not on the orthographic (written) representation of the letter.
Therefore, "an HTML5," as in the original headline, is correct, unless you really pronounce the letter "H" as something other than "aitch" (which, in all fairness, a minority of speakers in Britain and other places do). But note also the status of the sound /h/ itself isn't readily identifiable as a consonant or vowel--in fact, some consider it only a breathy version of the vowel it precedes or to be a segment marked only for phonation type and not place or manner (as with "real" consonants). I'll refer you to Ladefoged & Maddieson (1996) or any of Ladefoged's other phonetics books for more.
R.Mo
you must be a ton of fun at parties.
Oh come on Steve, we know there's nothing left!
Even steaming pile as big as yours aren't enough to make Vista and 7.
Note: The choice of article is actually based upon the phonetic (sound) quality of the first letter in a word, not on the orthographic (written) representation of the letter. If the first letter makes a vowel-type sound, you use "an"; if the first letter would make a consonant-type sound, you use "a."
An HTML is correct.
http://www.jolicloud.com/blog/
In the immortal words of Eddie Izzard:
The French have institutionalised a prescriptive approach to their language. For them, the "h" in "herbe" is silent. The English, by contrast, have institutionalised an aversion to all things French, so it's entirely possible they started aspirating their "haitches" in spite. At least that's my theory. ;-)
So which pronunciation is correct? I'd suggest both are. To say "none" seems a bit inane. I'd like to believe that somewhere between an overly rigid approach, and language as spoken in Idiocracy (the logical conclusion of your "non prescriptive" posturing), is a compromise, one that most adults in the room can agree to. Following (or advocating) established rules is how we get along, yes?
I'm curious - if "prescriptivist" grammar isn't valuable, than how would you propose written language be taught, paying specific attention to the problematic requirement of readability and precision between people with different dialects, upbringings, and educations.
Also, a version that doesn't end up with the U.S. speaking in txt-speak would be nice.
The name reminds me of Jollibee, a Filipino fast-food chain that has fried chicken and random weird stuff. (There's one next to Moscone Center in San Francisco.)
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Based on the video, it looks like it has potential. But there are many things that are just a poor user interface. An example would be the speed that it takes to start up. GIMP just looks out of place. Note that I am comparing this to an iPad – and for good reason – this resembles the same target market to me.
Bravo
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
Don't worry, as a linguist, I can only hang out with other linguists, anyway. We've scared/bored all the other people away. ;-)
This is why ChromeOS is gonna be so rocks and rule the world. HTML5 is clearly blurring the distinction between a web app and a desktop application, and you can see that it is definitely possible to do almost everything with just a browser using HTML5 and javascript.
There is this trend of replacing traditional GUI interface with web interface, even though the application itself is a desktop application. Such examples are Freenet, Transmission, Yacy, and so on. Some other applications are using web interface as well even they are not a website, such as the router administration interface, and Chrome's internal downloads and other configuration interface.
What we can see is that it is actually much more easier and portable to build desktop applications using web interface. HTML5 has become so powerful that it can be used to build almost all traditional applications that solely use the GUI APIs to build their interface. Text editor, video player, office suite, instant messaging, POS, and business suite can all be built using web interface and may have even richer interface. The only kind of applications that can't be built using HTML5 is those that build custom GUI components that use lower level display interface rather than the GUI API, such as Photoshop and other image/video/audio editing software, and games with a lot of interaction.
Some of you may complain saying that "ok web interface is cool, but I want to use that fucking application offline and I don't want to store things on the cloud". The solution is actually pretty simple - just install the web server on your computer! With what I call "client side server", you can get the best of both world: offline application with web interface. Some applications certainly do this (Freenet etc) by starting their own server, but if we can standardize this and bring everything together, we do can build a pretty powerful desktop that is completely built on web interface.
In summary - ChromeOS + client side server = killer app.
Hehe. Another good example showing why the hyphen should be banned from the English language.
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One "Aw, Shit!" is worth 100 "Ata boys!"
Well in Ireland people call the H letter as /het/, therefore from an Irish perspective a HTML5 UI is 100% correct, but in US H's name is pronounced /et/ therefore an HTML5 UI is correct from your perspective...
Damn it's hard to remember that there are other cultures outside of US, right?
One of the smartest comments on this topic i have seen for a while now.
I've seen some awesome applications written in Java, Flash, and HTML5.
You can't blame a language for awful applications written in them, it is the awful developers who throw around hacks, broken and messy, completely unoptimized code who are to blame.
And they aren't the only ones to blame either, STANDARDS are to blame as well. Some standards are pretentiously over-complex for the sake of readability, or "super cool new coding" standards.*
In the case of JavaScript? HELL NO. Compress that thing and keep an uncompressed version, with a link to it in the source at the top if an outside person wants to view it. (if you want them to)
This is a whole new platform just starting off. Forget HTML4 (even if there was some decent applications for that), HTML5, new JS extensions and CSS3 are years worth of changes, still changing at that.
Websockets, offline support, JS workers, transforms, semantic web (no more DIVs, YAY), countless other things.
The only problem we have to suffer is Microsoft, and some small disagreements with the people behind the standards and browsers.
*An example being the stupid hatred for things like GOTO.
So many people use GOTOs without them even realising it, like when it is disguised as another command for a special cases like BREAKs and CONTINUEs inside loops, exit statements, errors, several others.
So many people waste time making awful chains of IF statements that could easily be condensed just by using GOTO. (there was an example on here back when one game from Humble Indie Bundles sources were looked at, hell, Linus himself defended his use of GOTO in the Kernel pretty well too)
I've seen people with outright hatred for GOTOs despite the fact that the very computer they were using uses more GOTOs in a second than they have probably had hot dinners in their life.
GOTO is not evil, GOTO is just used for stupid reasons most of the time by sub-standard developers.
Hooray! Now we just need to stop all those people saying "an historic", which is especially weird because I bet they don't say "an house" or "an horse" or "an history of over-correction".
I think it results from primary school teaching of "rules" like "i before e except after c", or "an goes before vowels", which people then go on to apply blindly.
You say erb, and we say herb ... because there's a fucking 'h' in it.
Hello, not ello.
High, not igh.
Herb, not erb.
Honour, not onour (or even onor).
This whole 'unsounded h' nonsense wouldn't exist if you yanks would learn to pronounce words properly.
This whole 'unsounded h' nonsense wouldn't exist if you yanks would learn to pronounce words properly.
American pronunciation (what a stupid word, where did the 'o' go? why is there a nun in there? wait, there's a joke here someplace) is closer to the British English at the time of the split than modern British English is, because Brits deliberately laid on their goofy accents to sound less like Americans and the whole thing just sort of stuck. Indeed, our pronunciation tends to be better than yours (for example, we know how to spell and say "Aluminum" in accordance with the namer's wishes and similarity to the names of other elements) except in the midwest where faces are too full of cheese curds and the like for proper diction.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
According to whose wishes ???
In 1807, Davy proposed the name aluminium for the metal, undiscovered at that time, and later agreed to change it to aluminum. Shortly thereafter, the name aluminum was adopted to conform with the "ium" ending of most elements.
Aluminium was also the accepted spelling in the U.S. until 1925, at which time the American Chemical Society decided to use the name aluminum thereafter in their publications.
So yet again, it turns out it was Americans who decided they had to be different to everyone else and bugger about with the language.
You only have to look at the names of the other Group 13 elements to see the problem ...
Ga = Gallium
In = Indium
TI = Thallium
See anything common with the naming ?
For one, a null pointer exception can actually be caught and dealt with. It also can't turn into anything exploitable, like a buffer overrun.
And I'd rather deal with segfaults once, by fixing the runtime environment, than with every single app. It's been probably six months since any part of my browser crashed, and less than a week since local, native apps have crashed.
And on top of all that, segfaults are caused by more than just dealing with uninitialized values.
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Grammar and language Nazi here, the poster above is correct about the use of the indefinite article and Letters. The difficulty comes with the use with the "h" as the initial letter in a word such as the previous poster who says "an" historical. This is still disputed by the old school fools who learned a written standard for something that governs a spoken standard. In other words, if the "h" is written then its sound value need not be considered and you can make a rule that holds across all situations. If the "h" is spoken then you have the difficulty of two variant pronunciations (each calling a different article-- "a" or "an") that can appear with the same spelling. This possibility mind-fucks (this is a classical linguistics term first used by Ferdinand de Saussure in his famous thirteenth introductory lecture on semiotics) the prescriptionists who insist that all rules must apply equally and completely in all situations. All other situations create the kind of linguistic diversity up with which they will not put.
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Anyone else think it said lolicloud?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Nobody I know (in the UK) pronounces the h in honour except Parker in Thunderbirds.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it