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Cyberwarrior Shortage Threatens US Security

An anonymous reader writes "US security officials say the country's cyberdefenses are not up to the challenge. In part, it's due to a severe shortage of computer security specialists and engineers with the skills and knowledge necessary to do battle against would-be adversaries. The protection of US computer systems essentially requires an army of cyberwarriors, but the recruitment of that force is suffering. 'We don't have sufficiently bright people moving into this field to support those national security objectives as we move forward in time,' says James Gosler, a veteran cybersecurity specialist who has worked at the CIA, the National Security Agency, and the Energy Department."

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  1. H1b? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    if there is such a shortage of talent maybe we can offshore this responsibility? Maybe to China? As a bonus it will be less expensive.

    1. Re:H1b? by Maarx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      if there is such a shortage of talent maybe we can offshore this responsibility? Maybe to China? As a bonus it will be less expensive.

      Trolling: When you do it right, nobody realizes you've done anything at all.

  2. Duh, they are in jail. by tekrat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The USA has a bad habit of arresting anyone with the skills and curiosity to perform such tasks. Instead of arresting and jailing "hackers" they should employ them, and then maybe we'd have enough people for the "cyberwar" they are talking about

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    1. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The USA has a bad habit of arresting anyone with the skills and curiosity to perform such tasks.

      ...and refusing the skilled and desperately needed service of anyone who "likes show tunes".

    2. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm here in Canada - and I've tested the waters on controversial legal issues with computers - and I've considered going into the definately illegal waters just to see what would happen with the law.

      There was a case a long while back where a high schooler in Montreal or somewhere in the East Coast of the United States (I heard the story second hand from someone so I'm sketchy on the details) where he basically set up a botnet, and then to test it out he had it perform a DOS attack while he was at school, I think he ended up taking down CNN.com or Yahoo for a bit or something.

      Anyways, they hauled him off to juvee or some low security prison for a few years, and when he got out he was hired almost immediately for a security specialist job. (I believe at one of the websites he took down)

      I'd try it myself but I'm too old to go to Juvee...

    3. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by causality · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The USA has a bad habit of arresting anyone with the skills and curiosity to perform such tasks. Instead of arresting and jailing "hackers" they should employ them, and then maybe we'd have enough people for the "cyberwar" they are talking about

      It's part of a greater "war on curiosity" that's a fear-based initiative to stamp out any and all behaviors that even slightly deviate from a prescribed norm. Locking up those "evil hackers" is part of this. Another part of this is the way people are getting threatened by cops, security staff, and other jack-booted thugs for legally taking photos in public places. You also can't get a truly good chemistry set anymore, because somebody might use the glassware to make drugs. Now they complain that they can't find good personnel for something that requires initiative, individual thought and a willingness to think outside the box and see things from multiple angles.

      That serves them right. They've been systematically stamping out any kind of unapproved curiosity and exploration in the name of safety for a long time now. They've also done nothing but encourage the outsourcing trend of sending a great deal of IT talent to places like India, and you really do want US citizens to perform this kind of national security work. Then there's the general untrustworthiness of the US government as an institution, the idiocy and abuses and mismanagement that it perpetuates and the moral implications of joining up with them. That might further alienate domestic talent that would otherwise be interested. As far as I am concerned, they are reaping what they have sown.

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    4. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You need to read Where Have All The Hackers Gone. The guy who wrote it got a bronze Olympic medal returned to the US with a Google search. Worth reading.

    5. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by EdIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is another possibility too you know.

      We don't have sufficiently bright people moving into this field to support those national security objectives as we move forward in timeWe don't have sufficiently bright people moving into this field to support those national security objectives as we move forward in time

      Do *you* support our national security objectives? I know I don't.

      Especially since some people seem to be doing their damnedest to make copyrights a matter of national security. I'm sorry, let me take that back. ACTA negotiations already show that copyrights are a matter of national security.

    6. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by MintOreo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This. There are two main problems with this and thats that the best criminal hacker they pick up can't be better than the best "good guy" and that the pay off of cybercrime can be incomparably greater than the salary they'd be taking from the government (and every cybercriminal knows this).

      That's not to say that there are no hackers that it'd be good to reach out to, it's just an extreme risk they'd be taking.

    7. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by arkane1234 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The thing that scares me about it is, how do you interview for such a position? It really reminds me of when I was 21-22 years old and the FBI (not CIA since that was for offshore stuff at that time) would cuff you and interrogate BBS owners if they were suspected of anything more than owning a computer... even then you were suspect. I've had BBS sysops I was friends with (locally) that were ransacked by the FBI, and their items held in custody indefinitely... all over fabricated things so they could search the equipment. Of course nothing ever was pinned on any of them except for one who was an idiot and did Warez on an open system. The rest were just sysops with no illegal tendencies.

      Scared the shit out of me when I was learning C back then and saw all of the rules the feds had in effect that were mixed and mashed when it came to computer activities. A lot of archaic rules that were hypocritical of current rules and they overlapped instead of one taking precedence.

      One reason I encrypted my entire harddisk and downloaded as many docs as I could off of the 'net at that time... before the feds realized "that thar intARwEb" had info.
      This was before the browser, of course...

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    8. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "The USA has a bad habit of arresting anyone with the skills and curiosity to perform such tasks." ...and refusing the skilled and desperately needed service of anyone who "likes show tunes".

      How is this off-topic? At a certain level of government, homosexuality is enough to get you excluded from the game. That means there are likely some qualified candidates who are excluded based off a fairly arbitrary criteria.

      Most especially amusing is that because they make you hide it, they use the fact that you are hiding it to show that you might be a security risk because someone could blackmail you.

      Seriously, the parent poster makes an insightful point.

    9. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by causality · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is probably another possibility, but you mention none I did not already cover. I explained it thusly: Then there's the general untrustworthiness of the US government as an institution, the idiocy and abuses and mismanagement that it perpetuates and the moral implications of joining up with them.

      Copyright madness is certainly an example of this, and not the trait of an institution I want to support with my labor. I don't really understand how you wouldn't think this statement excludes copyright hysteria.

      By law I must pay my taxes or very bad things will happen, so I pay my taxes. That part is not a choice. But anywhere I have a legal choice, such as a choice of employers, I refuse to support this particular institution or join up with them in any way that is not mandatory. Maybe they were once a noble, respectable institution but they certainly don't fit that description now. I'd rather not be ashamed of how I get my living. That's why I wouldn't voluntarily work for the US Government.

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    10. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by Target+Practice · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed. To top it off, now the government have created a paradox for themselves:
      -threatening students with lawsuits if they break copyright infringement laws
      -seizing computers used for questionable activity, and yet
      -rewarding students in contests where the challenge is an opportunity "...for them to hone their skills on being able to hack into other systems, particularly those of folks we may not be fond of,..."

      In a world where the corporation wins against individual rights, where suspicion can land you on a no-fly list, is it really so hard to understand why they can't fill these positions? We're raising the young to frown on the dark side of the internet. We have the Eloi, they have the Morlocks.

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    11. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by TheLink · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Y'know, the greatest threat to US security might be the US government.

      1) Who wields the greatest power in the world?
      2) Is the entity in #1 really using it for the benefit of the USA? Or for the benefit of others?

      It's always bogeyman after bogeyman, "The US is under threat" and neverending wars against drugs/terror/whatever.

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    12. Re:Duh, they are in jail. by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Informative

      How is this off-topic? At a certain level of government, homosexuality is enough to get you excluded from the game. That means there are likely some qualified candidates who are excluded based off a fairly arbitrary criteria.

      That level is ONLY within the ranks of the military itself. It has nothing to do with civilian contractors. I personally know two trans-gendered people with clearances, deviation from the sexual norm is not a significant problem.

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  3. Jail time? by IICV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe it's because we call anyone with even the smallest amount of computer knowledge a witch^H hacker, and burn them at the stake^H^H^H^H^H^H put them in jail (or detention, for the juveniles) while banning them from using computers?

    It's pretty simple, guys. If you ban model rockets, you won't get a generation of rocket scientists. If you ban chemistry kits, you won't get a generation of chemical engineers. If you ban playing around with computer systems, you won't get a generation of hackers.

    1. Re:Jail time? by 0racle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Playing around and breaking the law are two different things. Some laws stifle learning and need to be changed, but most do not.

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    2. Re:Jail time? by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's pretty simple, guys. If you ban model rockets, you won't get a generation of rocket scientists. If you ban chemistry kits, you won't get a generation of chemical engineers. If you ban playing around with [other people's] computer systems, you won't get a generation of [computer crackers].

      FTFY. It's illegal for a reason.

    3. Re:Jail time? by SleazyRidr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Each one represents a backspace. Typing "hacker^H^H^H^H^H^H computer security expert" would imply that I initially typed 'hacker' and then changed my mind, deleted it and replaced it with 'computer security expert'.

      You may also see ^W which deletes the whole word.

  4. Funny how.. by SuperCharlie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "We don't have sufficiently bright people moving into this field"

    Yet we have sufficiently bright people who can create a system that rapes the stock market.

    1. Re:Funny how.. by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why do you rob banks, Mr. Sutton?

      That's where the money is.

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    2. Re:Funny how.. by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "We don't have sufficiently bright people moving into this field"

      Yet we have sufficiently bright people who can create a system that rapes the stock market.

      Which one pays better?

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  5. Perception... by mlts · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is all about perception. I see high school advisors telling kids to stay away from computer science because they will be fighting for jobs against the whole world (programmers from India, sysadmins from the Bay Area, etc.) Instead, they tell them to go law because "there is no such thing as an unemployed lawyer."

    Russia and China, it is different. There, their security guys doing blackhat/white work are viewed with similar respect as Special Forces guys are viewed here, as heroes for their country. Here in the US, a CS/IT person is looked at as someone who is going to be unemployed as soon as the PHB finds some offshore firm.

    Change the perception, make it cool to be a CS/IT person. THEN you will have your "cyberwarriors" that are on par with the Russian/Chinese blackhats. Otherwise, the CS students will be taking their CS degree into law or business school.

    1. Re:Perception... by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

      Instead, they tell them to go law because "there is no such thing as an unemployed lawyer."

      There are now many unemployed lawyers. See the lawyer layoff list. There's now "legal process outsourcing, and it's not just clerical work any more. You can now send work to cheap lawyers in a Bangalore call center.

      A lawyer I was using was recently laid off by his downsizing law firm. It happens.

  6. Re:Stupid tags by causality · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not allowed to tag stories, but the moron who managed to misspell "cyberwarfare" as "cyberwarefare" is free and clear, huh? Nice job, Slashdot.

    I can't seem to tag stories either and I have no idea why. I can add a tag and it appears to work, but I have never once refreshed the Slashdot main page and seen any tag I have applied. That is, they seem to just go straight to /dev/null. Tags I try to apply do seem to show up on my user page, however.

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  7. well stop arresting hackers for BS then by RobertLTux · · Score: 3, Funny

    all y'all have to do is setup a few sub sub basements with a few racks and fridges and then move anybody that can
    hack the doors into the group (of course filter for the obvious "problems").

    a few hints
    1 most good hackers will have some sort of criminal record
    2 hackers may or may not like a normal uniform and the hair thing may be an issue
    3 when you have a group setup DO NOT VISIT DO NOT ASK "HOW" (plausible deneyability is a good thing)
    4 psych evals may be another issue

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  8. Cyber Warriors lol by hypergreatthing · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes. I know what they should do. Bring back photon and use it as a recruitment tool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_(TV_series)

    Who in their right mind would join up with a organization which wants to call you a Cyber Warrior?

    I mean, i get it from the perspective of appropriating money that should be used for better causes and justifying your 6 figure salary and all. But this whole thing is laughable.

  9. Because those jobs suck. by Zeek40 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A big part of the problem is that those jobs are very unappealing. First the applicants have to get a security clearance, which weeds out all non-citizens and a good deal of other applicants, then they are forced to work in secure facilities that feel like caves or underground bunkers, and on top of that they aren't allowed to discuss what they do in anything but the most general terms. Taking a job doing cyber ops for the government is volunteering to put a giant gap in your resume that you can't discuss.

    1. Re:Because those jobs suck. by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Informative

      First the applicants have to get a security clearance, which weeds out all non-citizens and a good deal of other applicants,

      Don't forget that the Federal government is big on drug testing, and the people who'd do well at this job are likely to be users of a fairly harmless, naturally-growing herb which happens to be highly illegal, and whose users are routinely thrown in prison for long terms, causing other dangerous and violent criminals to be released early to make room for them.

  10. A bad deal by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The federal government has a habit of imposing soul-crushing bureaucracies on its workers.

    Probably only a very small fraction of citizens are talented and inclined to do cyberwarfare and are willing to put up with the bureaucracy.

  11. Shortages by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd believe in stuff like

    1. Shortages of people who patch their systems
    2. Shortages of companies who are willing to pay security specialists a decent wage
    3. Shortages of CTO's willing to pay for migration away from IE6 to something standards-compliant
    4. Shortages of armed services who'd take overweight computer professionals over 30
    5. The tooth fairy
    6. Unicorns

    But a shortage of cyberwarriors? That seems a bit far fetched.

  12. The root of the problem... by stagg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...is legal and cultural. The US penalizes innovation and experimentation more than anyone. The US government is responsible for the DMCA and massive efforts to punish people for hacking their own hardware and software, ludicrous prison terms, and so forth. On top of that you have a move away from generic, "hackable" computers to walled garden, Apple style technologies. That kind of culture doesn't really nurture a generation of future hackers. We don't encourage youth people to explore technology, we want them to play by the rules and keep their noses clean. With hacking hardware and software so stubbornly discouraged, it's no wonder that not very many people have the desired skill set.

    1. Re:The root of the problem... by Americano · · Score: 3, Informative

      The US penalizes innovation and experimentation more than anyone.

      Really?! For a country that penalizes this stuff more than anybody else, we sure do whole lot of it!

      http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_res_and_dev_exp_of_gdp-economy-research-development-expenditure-gdp
      http://ideas.repec.org/a/eaa/eerese/v5y2005i5_9.html
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovation#Measures

      Perhaps next time you should engage your brain before spouting off Slashdot banalities designed to curry you favor with the mods!

  13. Working for the goverment blows by malice95 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People who are typically drawn to computers are often not very good canidates for the military lifestyle. And to become good at Securing systems or hacking them.. you need be breath, eat and sleep computers (especially hacking them).

    Hacking skills are not taught in schools and working for the goverment pays c@rp.. why would someone who spent years developing highly saught after skills work for the latest cyberwarfare agency when they could make big bucks in the private sector.

    There are plenty of highly skilled security folks out there "Defend the nation" to. I dont see any real recruitment efforts going on that are worth while.

  14. Skills and knowledge AND... by terrahertz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In part, it's due to a severe shortage of computer security specialists and engineers with the skills and knowledge necessary to do battle against would-be adversaries.

    Based on my own experience, I would argue that there is a severe shortage of computer security specialists and engineers with the skills and knowledge and desire to do battle against would-be adversaries. Whether it's a personal financial concern or a personal ethical concern, there are lots of great reasons for skilled and knowledgeable experts to seek employment elsewhere.

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  15. Re:Maybe this man's ideas are misplaced... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact that we are using the ridiculous term "cyberwarrior" suggests that, at the very least, the people writing the PR playbooks don't have a fucking clue.

    In addition to being corny as hell, "cyberwarrior" implies a dangerously literal application of traditional military doctrines(ie. you have the civilians, who do whatever, and then you have an army that stands between them and the bad guys and blows things up) to computer security. With networked computers, aside from the specific case of DOD sysadmins, virtually all of "computer security" is about making sure that the (overwhelmingly civilian) software and systems are properly designed and built. That isn't something that you are going to do by having a few "cyberwarriors" to hack through the enemy's code walls, or whatever. That is only doable by, more or less, massively increasing the status(and cost, sorry MBAs...) of programmers, software engineers, sysadmins, etc.

    Obviously, there will be some need for near-black-hats to spook around hostile networks in the service of various sinister three letter agencies; but the vast majority of "computer security" is much closer to being analogous to a civil engineering or public health question than it is to being a military one. Trying to solve "cybersecurity" with a relatively small number of "elite cyberwarriors" is rather like trying to keep a population from dying of cholera by building a few world-class research hospitals(with bed space for like 1% of the cases), rather than having civil engineers knock together a water system...

  16. Ah, better to crack'em down. by alexborges · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Go look for the idiot that started the Hacker's Crackdown in th 90's. The result of this attitude was to either push some kids to the edge where the russian mob recruited them in on form or another, or plain make them corpodrones, albeit very good at typing crap into a cisco console, but perfectly worthless in the underlining of the net.

    Bravo, idiots, might I remind you that here in the net, we forsaw and told you about this. And now you come complainin....

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    1. Re:Ah, better to crack'em down. by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This will just be another case of Problem, Reaction, Solution.

      They already know what they want, this is just their horse and pony
      show to justify what they will do to get it.

      Likely some more Visa workers to drive down wage costs.

      I did a search for CISSP jobs and that ilk and there is not
      thousands of them out there waiting to be filled.

      I call Deja moo.

      Deja moo is like Deja Vu, but it refers to having heard this BS somewhere before.

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    2. Re:Ah, better to crack'em down. by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 4, Informative

      On monster.com I had the grand total of 11 hits for the whole US.

      Deja moo might be an understatement.

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    3. Re:Ah, better to crack'em down. by bsDaemon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm not sure that NSA's Information Assurance Directorate advertises on Monster. That seems like it would be counter-productive. I think there are more jobs (certainly more than 11), but they're the ones that either you have to go looking for SPECIFICALLY and not just casually come across, or where they come to you.

      I heard the story on NPR yesterday morning as I was driving to work, and it sounded like they were counting in all the government, intelligence and military positions, too -- not just corporate positions. And they're not going to fill the black-bag gigs or core routing positions at tier1 ISPs, or the blue-badge jobs, with H1B visas.

      I think another part of the problem is that a lot of the people who have the skills and knowledge to do this type of work very well are also the same people who don't particularly support the organizations that do it, often times because of wildly inaccurate assumptions fed by crazy Hollywood story lines.

  17. The enemy is not who you think they are. by vlm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    necessary to do battle against would-be adversaries. The protection of US computer systems essentially requires an army of cyberwarriors

    Who is the enemy? If you think its a nebulous "them", then you're wrong, its us.

    "security" where I work is primarily focused on giving as many employees parking tickets as possible, monitoring our every move (although car breakins are of course not monitored), protecting the company from downsized employees, and generally being bullies.

    I can assure you that "leet cyberwarriors" are not going to be used against enemy nation of the week, but against Americans. Against people with the mistaken idea they live in a free country. Against anyone standing in the way of the big corporations that pay for our elections. Against anyone whom does not understand they exist to serve the govt, not the other way around.

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  18. There is no shortage. by AnonymousClown · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Government mouth piece is talking out of his ass.

    There are plenty of people who know how is just that the knowledge leads to suspicion by law enforcement and practice of said skills are illegal.

    It's the same thing if this guy said, "There aren't enough people who know how to murder and our spy agencies are having a hard time finding assassins! "

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  19. Re:Maybe this man's ideas are misplaced... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm less concerned about the cheesy term scaring away hardcore techies(they can always just mock it in the break room).

    I'm concerned about managerial decisions, program planning, and the like. It is hard to think correct thoughts with broken language, and "cyberwarrior" is broken language(except, again, in the specific context of l33t black-ops haxx0rs for the NSA who play offense. They may or may not like the term; but they are at least structurally somewhat analogous to various flavors of elite-and-slightly-irregular forces that have been used in the past.)

    My concern, essentially(in addition to the fact that "cyberwarrior" is an invitation to the quiet militarization of just about anything turing-complete and network connected, all in the name of "security") is that this sloppy use of language will(and already is) lead to sloppy, incorrect thinking on the part of politicians and planners and the like. You'll get roughly one of two outcomes:

    Outcome one: The "guard the borders" interpretation. This is the analogy extension of "cyberwarrior" that anybody whose worldview is steeped in the classic American quasi-isolationism(that comes quite naturally from having an ocean on each side, and largely untroublesome borders) will come up with. Basically, civilians get to be the soft chewy center, and go about their business however they like, and the military stands guard at the edges and occasionally goes overseas and kills some nazis or communists.

    This interpretation, will the better of the two, is largely useless. With modern internet interconnection, pretty much any sort of electronic attack will fly right past the border and into the ghastly mess that is civilian systems with ease. Even fairly petty criminals will not have much trouble, and some hostile nation's targeted attackers even less. Also, because of "COTS" fever, low-bidder private sector code will be all over military critical systems as well. Hurray.

    Outcome two: Super sinister, and not necessarily much more useful than Outcome one. This is the bad analogy extension of "cyberwarrior" that will be arrived at by either retro "total war" theorists, or their contemporary counterparts who have been hitting the "9/11 changed everything, new kind of war, assymetric undefined battlefield, war on abstract concepts!!" pipe pretty hard. Here, the thinking will roughly be as follows: 1. There is a state of "cyberwar" 2. "Cyberwarriors" must be used to win the cyberwar. 3. All internet connected systems are strategic resources, and/or strategic targets, and are therefore under the just jurisdiction of the "cyberwarriors" until such time as the cyberwar should end(ie. never).

    Basically, this outcome will mean massive militarization(and some super-juicy contractor food) of previously civilian areas; because, there is a cyberwar on, so if you are on the internet, you are territory...

  20. You know, I would happily apply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You know, as a U.S. citizen with a data systems security background, university degrees, CISSP, etc., I would happily apply for work with the U.S. government.

    However, every position I've discovered requires an existing security clearance, something you cannot just go out and get, at any price.

  21. Re:There isn't a shortage by FormOfActionBanana · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is a shortage. I do security code reviews and we have a challenging time finding good people. The prepress report talks about a lot more than dusty old government jobs.

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  22. Hiring practices by pootypeople · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good IT guys don't want to go through the nonsense associated with these positions. They can get jobs with private industry that don't have the headaches. I live in the Washington area and there are plenty of IT jobs here. You just have to have a TS/SCI or plan to get one. I'm much happier not having the FBI asking my neighbors questions and crap like that.

  23. Same propaganda from December 2009, and before by walterbyrd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They typical run these propaganda campaigns about every six months.

    http://www.fiercegovernmentit.com/story/u-s-faces-shortage-cybersecurity-workers/2009-12-23

    Screaming and crying about desperate shortages is just a routine part of business. It keeps the poor saps studying for a career they will probably never get. It keeps the markets nice and glutted.

    IMO: what really gives this away as propaganda, is the lack of specificity. They will never tell you exactly what credentials are supposedly in such short supply.