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US Senate Passes 'Libel Tourism' Bill

Hugh Pickens writes "AFP reports that the US Senate has passed (by a 'unanimous consent' voice vote) a bill that prevents US federal courts from recognizing or enforcing a foreign judgment for defamation that is inconsistent with the First Amendment to the US Constitution, which guarantees freedom of speech. If the bill becomes law it will shield US journalists, authors, and publishers from 'libel tourists' who file suit in countries where they expect to get the most favorable ruling. 'While we cannot legislate changes to foreign law that are chilling protected speech in our country, we can ensure that our courts do not become a tool to uphold foreign libel judgments that undermine American First Amendment or due process rights,' said Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy. Backers of the bill have cited England, Brazil, Australia, Indonesia, and Singapore as places where weak libel safeguards attract lawsuits that unfairly harm US journalists, writers, and publishers. The popular legislation is headed to the House of Representatives, which is expected to approve it. 'This bill is a needed first step to ensure that weak free-speech protections and abusive legal practices in foreign countries do not prevent Americans from fully exercising their constitutional right to speak and debate freely,' said Senator Jeff Sessions, the top Republican on Leahy's committee."

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  1. Good, sensible decision by Dominic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good on you, Americans. So, now can you stop complaining if we try to stop our courts enforcing *your* mad decisions, like Gary McKinnon?

    1. Re:Good, sensible decision by ByOhTek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sorry, hacking into secure military sites - and not just for UFO information (seems more paranoia than anything else, even if a bit of a benign case).

      His case makes sense to me (as would be the case if a Brittan, France, Germany, Brazil, Japan, whoever wanted a US citizen for a similar premise, I'd say 'send him/her over...'

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    2. Re:Good, sensible decision by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For the sake of argument, let's say that we all agree that the crime occurred on US soil (and even that is by no means a unanimous opinion). The UK will only allow the extradition of they believe that he will receive a fair trial and (if found guilty) a reasonable punishment for the crimes he has been accused of.

      This is a man with some psychological problems who appears to have made a very very stupid decision by breaking in to some poorly secured US government computers. There was little actual harm done. The consensus seems to be that in the UK he would receive a slap on the wrist, maybe some psychiatric treatment, perhaps some limitations on his future access to computers. At the time he faced a maximum of six months in a UK prison.

      The US are calling him a terrorist, and lining him up for the distinct possibility of several decades, maybe even life, in a federal prison.

      Do you believe he would get off lightly if extradited to the US, or do you think he would be made an example of? If the former, why? If the latter, do you think it is still fair to extradite him?

    3. Re:Good, sensible decision by Dr.Merkwurdigeliebe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or Marc Emery, for that matter. It seems a little stupid to send a man to jail for 20+ years for doing something in his own country that would cost him a $250 fine.

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    4. Re:Good, sensible decision by Dominic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I wasn't being anti-American. I applaud this move, as I think our libel laws are stupid and should indeed be ignored.

      I was merely pointing-out that most suggestions by British people on Slashdot that the US are out for blood when it comes to McKinnon are usually greeted by "He broke our rules!" sort of rants. You can't have it both ways - every country makes stupid laws, and when they start trying to force them to be applied in other countries, a line has been crossed. In our case it's our stupid libel laws, and in the case of the US it's their stupid 'McKinnon is a terrorist' nonsense.

      Not every criticism of America is 'anti-American trolling', you know.

    5. Re:Good, sensible decision by nomadic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      These are far worse crimes, and the US refused to hand them over to other countries for trial.

      Well, not really "other countries" plural, just one, Italy. Which, as the Knox trial showed, does not have a functioning justice system.

    6. Re:Good, sensible decision by tehcyder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, not really "other countries" plural, just one, Italy. Which, as the Knox trial showed, does not have a functioning justice system.

      As with the US, which, as the OJ Simpson trial showed, does not have a functioning justice system.

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    7. Re:Good, sensible decision by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nice troll. What it shows is that the city of Los Angeles did not have a functioning police department.

  2. Re:Wowsa by mcvos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now all we need is for other countries to protect their citizens from similar patent tourism.

  3. Re:Good by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now that one can do investigation journalism in US, reverse-engineering in Finland, publish leaks in Sweden could we please recognize that preventing the publication of a file on internet is utterly silly ?

    Nope. Servers live places. The people who do the uploading live places. The people who run the servers can be punished. The people who do the uploading can be punished. There's no legal basis for your theory that criminalizing the publication of a file on the internet (I assume that's what you meant since nobody is preventing the publication of anything, if I assume incorrectly please let me know WTF you were thinking) is "silly". First we'd need to throw away IP law entirely, which is pretty much the opposite of what is going on in the world today. A significant part of IP law is written into international conventions to which the USA and GB are both signatories.

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  4. Re:A republican in favor of free speech ? by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you think the republicans have a monopoly on censorship, you've had your head buried in the sand too long.

    Heard of the fairness doctrine?

  5. What happens when other countries join the game? by dbkluck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I of course applaud the aims of this particular legislation, I think Senator Sessions may not like the consequences of starting an international game of "we won't recognize your court judgments because of your 'abusive legal system.'" The US legal systems for IP and class action recovery are the poster-children for 'abusive', and at a time when so much of the US economy depends on IP lawsuits (to say nothing of some no-doubt imminent class action suits against a certain British oil company), being the first to start ignoring foreign court judgments on principle might prove ill-advised.

  6. Re:A republican in favor of free speech ? by fnj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On the contrary, from my point of view, the Democrats are much bigger on censorship (such as so-called "hate speech", AKA opinions) and political correctness than the Republicans, but let's not fight. These opposing fundamental viewpoints are really not arguable effectively; i.e., stating this one way or the other will never sway anyone on the other side. Can we just agree that it is very gratifying that both sides of the aisle joined together on this?

  7. Re:Wow, that actually sounds pretty righteous by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 3, Insightful

    AFAIK, none of those companies (with the possible fringe example of Disney) are in an industry where libel is a serious issue.

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  8. Re:Can't legislate changes??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The US does not have the power to dictate legislation to foreign lands.

    Unfortunately, this does not stop the U.S. from trying to do so, at gunpoint if necessary.

  9. Re:Hmmm by mcvos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, but only from law suits. It will not protect you from actual bombers or bullets. --This is not really a joke because it is way to accurate.

    You're exaggerating. As far as I know not a single shot has been fired anywhere on earth because of a picture.

    Does a moving picture count? Because Theo van Gogh has definitely been shot. (8 times. And then stabbed.)

  10. Re:A republican in favor of free speech ? by nomadic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your freedom of opinion does not INCLUDE the freedom to think I or anybody else is less than you.

    Yes. Yes, it does.

  11. Re:A republican in favor of free speech ? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since it's a provable fact that I am NOT less than you, and nobody else is either

    How would you go about proving that? I believe that all people are of equal value, but I would be hard pressed to prove that as a fact. In truth, I think it would be trivial to "prove" that some people are of less value than others (for certain definitions of "value").

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  12. Re:A republican in favor of free speech ? by nomadic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The moment it DOES - you've lost the right to. The moment you pass me over for promotion because I'm the wrong color even though I'm the best candidate you SHOULD be committing a crime.

    Well that's where we differ. If you let your racist hiring decisions affect how you run your business, I may dislike it but it's your business. You should be able to choose not to hire me because you don't like my skin color, or eye color, or because the your hallucination of St. Peter told your enfeebled brain that if you hired me your moustache would turn green. Freedom is freedom; if you have to qualify it like you want to do it's not freedom anymore.

  13. Re:What happens when other countries join the game by Nimey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dunno. It might not be a bad thing for foreign legal systems to start ignoring us when we want to punish their citizens for things they did while not on US soil.

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