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Lightspark 0.4.2 Open Source Flash Player Released

suraj.sun writes "The Lightspark project has released version 0.4.2 of its free, open source Flash player. According to Lightspark developer Alessandro Pignotti, the alternative Flash Player implementation is 'designed from the ground up to be efficient on current and (hopefully) future hardware.' The latest release of Lightspark features better compatibility with YouTube videos, sound synchronization support and the ability to use fontconfig for font selection. Other changes include plug-in support for Google's Chrome/Chromium web browser and support for Firefox's out of process plug-in (OOPP) mode, which was added in version 3.6.4 of the browser."

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  1. Project page by nacturation · · Score: 5, Informative

    At least link to the project page rather than a rehashed "news" story: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/lightspark

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  2. What about license? by DMiax · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I seem to remember that the real problem Flash clones is that documentation is not completely free and if you read it you have to be under strong NDA for the rest of your life. This should also be why Gnash always lags behind. How did he overcome this issue? Or are we waiting for a lawsuit to strike as soon as the plugin becomes usable?

    1. Re:What about license? by sreekotay · · Score: 3, Informative

      That was historically true, but is no longer the case (I believe they changed the license coincident with the Open Screen Project release). See here. There are still the H.264 and On2 (as well as Nellymoser and other specific media codec) issues, but not any with open implementations of Flash itself.

  3. Re:embrace and extend by natehoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It won't, however, answer Apple's biggest reason for not wanting to support Flash.

    Flash is, simply, a proprietary format that they don't have any patent control over. They want h264, which is a proprietary format controlled by a consortium they are a major member of.

    Apple wants Flash dead. They don't want it open, they don't want it closed, they don't want it with cherries and whipped cream on top. They want it dead. It's something they cannot control, and therefore it must die.

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  4. Re:The best feature they could add... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe, maybe not.

    But that condescending reply in response to an informal feature request is terrible.
    You give open source a bad name.

  5. Re:Gnash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gnash does not support version two of the Actionscript Virtual Machine. (Most new Flash content uses that AVM version.) Lightspark is intended to support exactly that. There are many other differences, but that's the main one.

  6. No, that's-a fish! by RevWaldo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Chico and Harpo on the problems with Flash substitutes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Ovh18nYwc

    "Alright never mind c'mon we work without it.."

    .

  7. Hulu by TechwoIf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Will it work with www.hulu.com?

  8. Re:call me when there is a firefox addon by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...the guy kind of has a point.

    When this can be a drop in replacement for the vendor's version that doesn't support video acceleration on most platforms, then it will be something.

    For now, it is something that just looks very promising for now.

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  9. Mixed bag by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    The good news: it's an open-source Flash player

    The bad news: for better compatibility with web browsers, it's written in Flash

  10. Re:That's just as wrong as mono by betelgeuse68 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The irony is that if open source people didn't have a target to emulate, there's tons of things that would have never been written since a baseline and mindshare in the overall tech market wouldn't have existed:

    lex = flex
    yacc = bison
    sh = bash
    UNIX = LINUX
    vi = vim

    To name just a few.

    So your complaint about "proprietary" falls on deaf ears. If nothing else, what you call proprietary seeds things.

  11. Solution by neoshroom · · Score: 5, Funny

    I seem to remember that the real problem Flash clones is that documentation is not completely free and if you read it you have to be under strong NDA for the rest of your life. This should also be why Gnash always lags behind. How did he overcome this issue? Or are we waiting for a lawsuit to strike as soon as the plugin becomes usable?

    The creator of the project trained a chimpansee to understand code, a literal code-monkey if you will or rather a code-ape to be more accurate. This code-ape then reads the Flash documentation and explains it with sign language to the project creator. Since the code-ape cannot be properly held to an NDA the project continues unencumbered by draconian laws or demonic contracts.

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  12. Re:embrace and extend by unix1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    They want h264, which is a proprietary format controlled by a consortium they are a major member of.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "major" but Apple only has 1 patent in the h264 patent pool that looks like nothing but a placeholder patent to satisfy the membership requirement.

  13. Re:That's just as wrong as mono by mandelbr0t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i386 protected mode OS
    ext2/3
    emacs
    Perl, Python and others
    decss
    bayesian spam filtering
    eclipse

    To name a few more. Proprietary is not necessarily first, just the first to try and make profit from the project.

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  14. Re:embrace and extend by molnarcs · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple's browser engine? How many times does this myth have to be corrected? KHTML was a pretty complete rendering engine before Apple adopted it under the name WebKit. It was the only major free software contender to gecko, and Apple was not the first to notice it. NOKIA used it to replace gecko in their handhelds (and they sent a nice thank you letter to the khtml mailing list). Yes, Apple did contribute a lot of code, but they did not write it. And as of now, they are not the only contributors either. So webkit is a bad example for Apple's contributions - they basically forked KHTML (and the first few releases of Safari were pretty much KHTML + a few patches) and they had no choice but to maintain it as free software because KHTML was GPL.

  15. Re:which one by cortana · · Score: 3, Informative

    I refer you to "Interesting times for Linux Flash support" at http://lwn.net/Articles/389266/. I don't know why more (any) LWN articles aren't linked to from Slashdot.