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FreeBSD 8.1 Released
hsn and other readers pointed out that FreeBSD 8.1 has been released. "This is the second release from the 8-STABLE branch which improves on the functionality of FreeBSD 8.0 and introduces some new features. Some of the highlights: zfsloader added; zpool version of ZFS subsystem updated to version 14; NFSv4 ACL support in UFS and ZFS; support added to cp(1), find(1), getfacl(1), mv(1), and setfacl(1) utilities; UltraSPARC IV/IV+, SPARC64 V support; SMP support in PowerPC G5; BIND 9.6.2-P2..." ... and much more. See the release notes summary and the details.
Why no comments? Not even a frist psot? Whats wrong with the world?
It's nice to see they've got zfsloader in there by default, now. It was otherwise a huge pain to get ZFS to be booted from - you basically had to build your own installer and set up everything manually. Quite the time consuming task.
Unfortunately, I don't see any mention of these changes:
* "improved stability for ZFS". Sure, it supports pool version 14! What the fuck does that mean, really, when "bare minimum 4GB RAM" was a requirement for 8.0 to get it even remotely stable (some tuning required)? I don't care if it runs for months without locking the system. It's still locking the system.
* "decreased memory use for ZFS". It's not even doing deduplication in 8.0 RELEASE yet using 3GB of RAM at an idle load is not unheard of.
* Why so quiet on the USB front? Nice to see they got ralink devices added, but that does little for the fact that USB is almost completely unreliable in 8.x. Just take a look at the USB mailing list - problem after problem that's the same (USB has many, many timing/boot/detection issues in 8.x), with the seeming consensus being "we don't care, it works for me".
FreeBSD needs to fix those things or forever be relegated to amateur hour. Seems "quality things that work" gets relegated to "superior design". That's all fine and good, but if you've got to rape an ape just to get the damn thing to work as designed due to implementation flaws, it's essentially worthless.
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lol. 5th post!
Anyone know if this release improves ZFS stability on 32-bit machines? even with 2GB of ram i still get occasional kernel panics due to it running out of address space.
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The world's #1 most popular free software operating system!
At least to people not drinking Stalinman's communist kool-aid... All 8 of us...
Seriously, why so few comments on this story?
Maybe because it's Saturday evening and people are out doing things more fun than masturbating to a new release of FreeBSD?
Hey, speak for yourself.
What is the airspeed of a fully laden swallow?
Yeah, Linux will eventually be included on that list for Slashdot, too. Mac fanbois have taken over; the Ubuntists are out.
Pretty soon, a minor Linux kernel update won't make the front page.
Perhaps, although the number of (non-Ubuntu) Linux machines deployed outside of people's parent's basements exceeds fBSD and Ubuntu combined, which is kind of a built-in interest base. My expectation is that most smart people try to stay abreast of trends in the industry they work in ;)
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I'd love to try BSD, but they have abysmal support for Broadcom Wireless chips (at least without performing a bunch of voodoo that is way outside my level of expertise). If/ when that ever happens, I'll be all over it.
I was speaking for myself. But, at the same time, I was also at home. And I love FreeBSD. So, what can I say...
I had a very common ASUS ethernet adapter. When I tried to install FreeBSD to try it out I found that they had no support for this adapter. It was the one that most of the ASUS MB's used at the time. I see they still, 2 years later, do not support this very common adapter. It is an ATTANSIC L1 ethernet adapter and is very common. Until FreeBSD starts opening themselves to the common hardware that is used on many of the MB's then I don't see why I should jump through hoops to use their O/S. I did try DeskBSD on an older computer I had and it worked fairly well but not any better than Linux did and Linux had a lot more supporting applications than the BSD did. Saw no reason to go to BSD over what I could find elsewhere and with more support. Real shame because the basic structure is great but the details that are missing make all the difference. I find that ARCH Linux and Mint Linux give me more with speedier applications than BSD does and still have the protection that Windows does not offer.
Excuse me, but that troll you just pasted is over ten years old. I've perused my logs and found myself referencing said troll over two hundred times. Thank you.
Excuse me, but that troll you just pasted is over ten years old. I've perused my logs and found myself referencing said troll over two hundred times. Thank you.
What are you referring to?
Pigskin-Referee
Linux: Yesterday's technology, tomorrow
Linux is a nice 'hobby' OS; however, its hardware support sucks for virtually all modern devices. It's 2010, and Linux still has problems with basic functionality like suspend or graphics acceleration support on many machines. ;->
Of course, you're missing the fact that desktop is not the whole world. Lack of 802.11n support for a few devices doesn't really matter when you're building a core router, NAS, or a http server.
(Also, your trolling would be better if it didn't contain claims that are easy to verify as false. In particular, the point about ACLs is bad, because it's easy to check that e.g. Linux doesn't support standard NFSv4 ACLs at all. ;-)
You know the deal - it's gone. May its body be preserved for all eternity.
If anyone here is a troll, it is you. I simply stated my own personal experience with FreeBSD. I never made any claims regarding non Windows systems and ACL support. My statement was 100% accurate.
Pigskin-Referee
Linux: Yesterday's technology, tomorrow
Yeah, especially the "hobby" part, and the "up to ve level of other unix systems", which is false, as explained above. ;->
This one, perhaps? Honestly I was a little surprised nobody had posted it yet.
It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming close on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a cockeyed miracle could save *BSD from its fate at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
What the hell are you talking about? Apple-haters have almost completely taken over the comments section to any Apple article. What a lame attempt at karma-whoring on your part.