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Why You Never Ask the Designers For a Favor

Usually there is nothing funny about a missing pet, but the tale of Missy the lost cat is hilarious. It serves as an example of just how clueless your fellow employees can be, and why you should never ask the designers to drop what they're doing, and help with a personal matter.

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  1. Link to the original by Petersko · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think this might be the original - why not start there? There are some other articles that are funny as well.

    http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html

    1. Re:Link to the original by Soulskill · · Score: 4, Informative

      Updated with the proper link. Thanks.

    2. Re:Link to the original by Soulskill · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would you accept a picture of a spider as restitution?

  2. Stolen content? by GoNINzo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why did you post this link to a bunch of stolen content?

    The original source is 27bslash6.com, which is David Thorne's website. Which is awesome.

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    1. Re:Stolen content? by spintriae · · Score: 4, Funny

      27bslash6.com? More like 27bslashdotted.com.

  3. The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Look at his first reply, about the cat possibly being lying injured somewhere - what a pointlessy cruel and horrible thing to say. The owner of the cat is most likely upset enough without this moron winding her up with a comment along the lines of "oh hahaha isn't it funny, your cat is probably lying hurt and needing help lol". No, it's not funny.
    I get the idea that he's trying to hit back at people trying to "waste his time" by asking him to do freebies. So, why did he waste over a day tormenting the owner of the missing cat?

    What a noxious little prick.

    1. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, why did he waste over a day tormenting the owner of the missing cat?

      Its a fucking cat.

      She could have easily made her own poster at the copy shop/photocopier she was going to use anyway.

      He should have done a poster showing how Missy might look now after being run over, made into chineese food, mangled by a stray dog etc.

    2. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by epp_b · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep I never understood the point of this other than pointless cruelty.

      Because it's not pointless cruelty, it's a rather... extended manner of telling people that his skills aren't worthless. People (particularly businesspeople) are to quick to assume that artistic work is simple and worthless (fun fact: simplicity and minimalism are more difficult than complexity).

      You're paying for the talent and skill I've been developing since birth, not necessarily just my time. Just like I pay you a cut for the talent and skill for business and networking that you've been developing since birth, regardless of whether the sale took a minute or a week. By the way, do mind you selling my livingroom furniture for me? Oh, yeah, can do it for free? You're a businessperson, so it'll be be easy for you!

      I love this guy's site. It's comedy gold.

    3. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by LearnToSpell · · Score: 5, Informative

      Option 3:
      Make the whole thing up (or generous parts) to tell a funny little story, in a similar vein as his other, oh... 50 or so tales, and watch the outrage and moral anguish fly.

    4. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by JakiChan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Can I make up a funny story about the owner of that website getting cancer and slowly dying in agony? I think that would be very funny.

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    5. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by LearnToSpell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, that's the beauty of both the internet and humour. If you think it would be very funny, some other people might too.

    6. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by jeffmeden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Can I make up a funny story about the owner of that website getting cancer and slowly dying in agony? I think that would be very funny.

      Post a link! I will read it. But it better be funny, or tomorrow you just might find a satirical blog post about a certain jerk who criticized another jerk and then couldn't back his claims up.

    7. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by soliptic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, really it's not being nasty for its own sake. It's being nasty for the sake of humour. This is FICTION. Satire, comedy, sketch, vignette, etc.

      You might not find it funny, which is fair enough, but at least file the author under "bad comic" instead of "cruel sociopath".

    8. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by Nursie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I get that all the time. I either explain I'm a programmer and don't really deal with that sort of stuff, or I give them a hand if it's something simple and I have the time.

      There's no need to be a dick about it.

    9. Re:The guy is a nasty, vicious idiot. by flappinbooger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "or: You are in IT right ? can you fix my computer for me please ?"

      As with anything, it depends. Helping someone with a computer problem, when you "know what you are doing" and do it every day (such as, for money), can bring pain.

      Yes, it is always nice to help people. Certainly. It is better to give than receive.

      That said, there are some people that you just should NOT help. There are people that are annoying to you regardless, or people that are simply needy. These people will absolutely suck the life out of you, and if you help them with their computer then you become the source of every answer to every question, and if anything looks, sounds, smells, or feels "strange" then you get called at all hours of the day and night, and emails regarding the strange appearance, sound, smell or feel. And, when you mentally refuse to answer said email or phone message for any amount of time, as a method of sanity retention, then the emails and phone calls become blatantly passive-aggressive, containing such off-handed comments as "I know you're really busy and your time is valuable, but I was wondering if you might know why my computer takes so long to reboot on tuesdays when it's raining, but not on wednesdays, and not when it's sunny, but especially that one day when I was standing on one foot and my cat was outside looking in the side window it just took forever. Any ideas?"

      Or, "I know you told me to use XYZ antivirus and even though I haven't had any problems I see a review on some obscure website about abc antivirus which comes with total-uber-super-fixit-suite and I want to put it on, and my mouse is hovering over the download button right now and I need you to tell me if this program is good, and I have lots to do but my life can't continue unless you answer my question right now because I need to know whether to download this program. I've emailed ten other people the same question but none of them will answer me anymore so I know your time is valuable, can you answer my question? Please?"

      The problem is, you don't necessarily know whether the person will end up being a valuable client, or will be a nightmare. I've had people ask me if they can "watch" me fix their computer, and I've begun telling them that it will cost more because it will take longer. That said, I value my clients and I am definitely patient even with annoying customers. You know why? Because deep down they know they are annoying and if you are patient with them, they will know they can trust you and you will, eventually, usually, develop a good customer that appreciates your patience with them.

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  4. A new thing on the internet! by by+(1706743) · · Score: 3, Funny

    Speaking of which, check out this awesome All Your Base Flash video!

    Things they have in common: I've seen them both before Slashdot enlightened me...

  5. Holy crap, two people that are perfect together by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Informative

    Despite being incredibly funny (to the point of an uncomfortably loud outburst in an otherwise quiet office) I have to think that those two would make quite the couple. She didn't seem to badger the designer about the poster, she sent just one brief email that he could have ignored as easily as he no doubt ignores all the others. Although it was a project that would take a complete amateur no more than 5 minutes to perfect in MS Word, and a "pro" probably 10 minutes out of insistence on plodding through Frame Maker or Illustrator to achieve the same thing, the designer is understandably upset that his workload is going up. Good thing he decided to carry out 5 design projects, all off-spec, in order to spite her for asking for one very simple thing.

    Those two should hook up already.

  6. Re:Obviously fake by ronocdh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "This is the only photo of her I have she answers to the name Missy and is black and white and about 8 months old."

    Cats don't answer to names.

    While I'm sure you're joking, cats actually do tend to respond well to sibilant names. So in this case, "Missy" is a name a cat is likely to respond to.

    Googling around at work didn't yield any articles that were both in support of my claim and cited other sources, so you'll have to perform the research yourself. I've had many cats over the years, and this seems like a reasonable observation to me. A good relationship with your cat and reasonable training usually means the cat will respond to whatever its name is, but a lot of this has to do with the cat recognizing the owner's voice, more than the actual sound the human voice is making. Much of human-range languaging phonetics are sophisticated enough that both cats and dogs are largely in the dark about them. (See Levin, 2007 for more on that.)

  7. Re:what a fucking douche by TheKidWho · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sorry but his replies were priceless.

  8. It's a joke! by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People who are taking this seriously - Do you really believe that someone snowed under with work would spend so long composing email responses, or spend so much of his time putting together silly posters?

    Do you really think that the woman asking wouldn't have got the hint and done it herself? Or even if she didn't, she might have talked to someone else who would have explained things?

    1. Re:It's a joke! by Divide+By+Zero · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What, next thing you're going to tell me is the Bastard Operator from Hell never existed! Bollocks! Hogwash! I refuse to believe it, Fellow Internetizen.

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  9. Re:what a fucking douche by EdZ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or if the loss of your pet is that important, and making a poster is so simple, you could do it yourself, perhaps?

  10. Re:Meh by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    If you have an aversion to assholes, what are you doing reading slashdot?!?

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  11. Re:Obviously fake by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, both dogs and cats have shown to respond to rather large human vocabularies. The average dog, on average, is smarter than the average cat. Just the same there are plentiful examples of the smarter than average dog or cat be considerably more so. Furthermore, recent research indicates the average dog is smarter than a three year old human and cats somewhere around a two year old.

    Even a visit to YouTube can show you that not only do cats hear phonetics, its possible for them to push their vocal range to the limits in an attempt to mimic the phonetic range possible by the human voice. In short, dogs, cats, and many species of birds have all shown a high aptitude for both learning and comprehending human speech. As like many young humans, they often lack clarity of context. Regardless, recognition and comprehension of their name is a skill which is exceedingly common amongst these animals. In fact, all of these animals can have human vocabularies ranging up to the thousands.

    Generally when people have dumb pets its because the pet has dumb owners who in turn treat their pet as a dumb pet. Not hardly surprising. Oddly enough, the results are much the same for human children. Again, not surprising.

    One of the common mistakes people have about cats is that unlike dogs, they process a large amount of communication non-verbally. A competent combination of verbal and non-verbal communication with cats goes a great distance further than does the same combination with dogs. This in turn tends to cause additional confusion with humans because they often send mixed and confusing signals; those being both verbal and non-verbal.

  12. Re:Obviously fake by Volante3192 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, both dogs and cats have shown to respond to rather large human vocabularies. The average dog, on average, is smarter than the average cat.

    See, that's just what cats want you to think. All that time NOT spent fetching balls and sticks is spent contemplating the inevitable rise to power.

  13. Fiction? by oldmac31310 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I assumed that this was fiction based on the kind of things that do happen in real life and then exaggerated to humourous effect. Are we supposed to think this really happened and that the Thorne guy really delights in being so nasty to stupid people? Who in reality would waste so much time on something like this?

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  14. Re:Why you never ask assholes for favors by Steauengeglase · · Score: 2, Funny

    But it is a great example of most graphic designers I know. They have far more free time than they will ever admit. Far, far too much free time. "Meeting a client." is almost always a code phrase for "I'm sorry, but I'm already drunk.".

  15. Re:And thus why... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clearly, you should hire an MBA to write your software, a developer to design your web page, and a designer to run your company. Then all will be right in the world.

  16. Re:Last month wants its meme back by Dahamma · · Score: 2, Informative

    Last *month*? Thorne has been (in)famous for a lot longer than that...

    http://www.amazon.com/Internet-Playground-David-Thorne/dp/0980672929

  17. Re:Meh by Darinbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, in this fictional story, the asshat is clearly the villain of the piece.

    When I first read it awhile back, that's what I thought was the intent. The "haha, let's make fun of the idiot graphical designer" story sort of fell apart when I read his other stories, which seemed to be more about "I'll prove how cool I am by pranking other people."

  18. Re:Meh by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because there are at least five highly intelligent people here, and the several hundred who have listed me as friend must have some willingness to listen to unorthodox opinions that almost certainly differ from their own.

    Now, admittedly, the readership of Slashdot is closer to 100,000, making the percentage of potentially civilized people rather small in comparison.

    However, given that you could only half-fill a remote Alpine village with all the truly civilized, courteous yet self-respecting, intelligent people on the planet, in absolute terms roughly 10% of them must be regulars on Slashdot.

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  19. Sometimes you do by jewishbaconzombies · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Speak of the devil. I edited down the copy a co-worker gave me for their lost-cat flyer one lunchtime back in 1999.

    Just 3 words in the headline big (a short description of the cat in very very small type) and his phone number. LOOKING FOR PUSSY.

    He got 10 angry phone calls in 20 minutes and got the cat in less than an hour - I shit you not. Effective advertising works.

  20. Re:Didn't Seem Like Any Designer I've Worked With by tumutbound · · Score: 2, Informative

    learning enough about it not to electrocute himself when scaling a photograph.

    Somebody is doing something very, very wrong here. Let me guess, you use GIMP.

    Shows how much YOU know! gimp is battery powered and is completely safe.

  21. Re:Relax by tumutbound · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is clearly not a real email chain. It is what is known as a 'joke'. Why do all of the commenters take everything so seriously?

    Because everyone who posts to /. is an idiot.
    Except for me and the beloved Anonymous Coward of course.

  22. Yes by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is amazing the amount of time assholes will spend on being assholes. They can be pressed for time to get their work done, yet find plenty of time to be dicks to people since they take pleasure from it.

    Now this doesn't mean that this case isn't made up, but I could certainly see it being real. It follows asshole logic (such as it were) perfectly:

    --Spend 10 minutes helping you: WASTE of time! How could I waste so much time on something that gets me nothing when I'm so busy!

    --Spend 2 hours making your miserable: Great use of time! I derive pleasure from your misery!

  23. What? by PPH · · Score: 2, Funny

    No 'milk carton' missing photo?

    Or a '404: Missing Cat' poster?

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  24. I'll just link a few nuggets from the site by obarthelemy · · Score: 2, Funny

    so you can get the gist. Once again, the site is http://www.27bslash6.com/ , I personally like it, but not everyone will, or should.

    ___________
    Riddick
    While watching the movie 'Chronicles of Riddick' together last night, my offspring stated that he wished Riddick was his dad. When I asked why, he replied that Riddick is good looking, has muscles and is a good fighter. I told him that I wished Matthew (his arch-enemy at school) was my son because he is better at maths and has cool hair.
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    One thousand characters
    Writing rubbish on the internet amuses me a lot. There is often a limit of 1000 characters per post so every story (including punctuation, spaces, introduction, proposal, argument and punch line) has to be within a small paragraph.
    Sometimes I just write nonsense and other times I write something rather insensitive to evoke angry responses.
    When I was just fourteen, I was given the task of drowning kittens by my girlfriend's mother. I filled a large laundry sink with room temperature water and held the eight kittens under. As each kitten died and sank to the bottom, it turned and rested 'snuggled' to the previous. I put them in a garbage bag and was carrying it out when the bag moved and I heard a meow. I opened the bag and found one kitten had survived. So I drowned it again.
    And that is an exact one thousand.
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    Also, don't miss the Chatroulette one: http://www.27bslash6.com/chat.html

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