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UK Courts Rule Nintendo DS R4 Cards Illegal

CheShACat writes "A UK high court ruled today that R4 cards for the Nintendo DS are illegal, finding two vendors guilty of selling 'game copiers.' The ruling by Justice Floyd is quoted as saying, 'The economic effect on Nintendo of the trade in these devices is substantial as each accused device can store and play copies of many Nintendo DS games [...] The mere fact that the device can be used for a non-infringing purpose is not a defence.' No word in the article as to what law in particular they were found to have broken, nor of the penalty the vendors are facing, but this looks like bad news for all kinds of hardware mod, on any platform, that would enable homebrew users to bypass vendor locks." Nintendo won a related lawsuit in the Netherlands recently, in addition to the one in Australia earlier this year.

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  1. Apply logic to other things... by Reilaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My baseball bat is a murder weapon. The fact that I can use it to play baseball is not a defense.

    Guns for hunting/murder.

    Recording devices for reminders/spying.

    Tacos for eating/poison delivery.

    1. Re:Apply logic to other things... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just because my Logitech 5-button optical mouse (black) can be used as a controller for the cursor on my personal computer does not mean it cannot also be used to crush the ants that have invaded my bedroom because of all the Cheetos crumbs I dropped during last night's marathon session of Starcraft 2: Liberty (the RELOADED release*).

      Thus, it must be regulated as an insecticide.

      [*please note this post is for entertainment purposes only and should not be misconstrued as a description of reality, since I'd never play a pirated game since that would be wrong (SEED, YOU BASTARDS!)

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    2. Re:Apply logic to other things... by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, an R4 isn't as bad as either of these, but, where does it end?

      Where does common sense tell you it should end? Mine tells me it should end where waiting until I commit a crime with the thing would leave a lot of people in danger. A crack pipe and a piracy device, you can prosecute me after I use it illegally, the fact that it's harder to do that than try to prevent me from doing that doesn't matter. When talking about the ability to kill hundreds of people, that's another story.

      Seeing as how I quite obviously wasn't proposing a sweeping new legal change, I was expressing an opinion flashdrives, I didn't think I needed to spell out specific exceptions.

    3. Re:Apply logic to other things... by countertrolling · · Score: 3, Funny

      Logic? That's only a device to circumvent a judge's arbitrary ruling, and thus prohibited by law.

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    4. Re:Apply logic to other things... by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Funny

      meat is murder!
      fish is rape!
      bread is assault!
      veggies are petty theft!

    5. Re:Apply logic to other things... by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, modern copy machines won't scan modern money, or anything with the EURion constellation, but I haven't heard of one that would stop working afterwards. That pattern of circles can come in handy if you want to make a convention badge or some such that can't be photocopied.

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    6. Re:Apply logic to other things... by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Given how much graffiti I see around here, I'd imagine that a sizable percentage of spray paint is used to commit vandalism. Yet I can still buy spray paint. Most cigarette papers in many places are used for pot, but those are still sold legally. Radar detectors are primarily used to evade prosecution for infractions, yet are legal in most of the U.S. And 100% of all VCRs and DVRs are used for copyright violations, which although exempted from prosecution by judicial rulings in the Betamax case, are still technically violations of the law, just (barely) protected violations. And so on. That argument doesn't hold water.

      At least in the U.S., it has nothing to do with the percentage of people who use something for illegal activity and everything to do with a giant pro-copyright lobbying effort by major corporations that also happen to heavily fund the political campaigns of both major parties. I'd imagine that either the same is true in the U.K. or it's caused by the U.S. throwing its weight around. It's also probably safe to say that Nintendo shopped around for the right legislative district to file a suit in so that they would get the most bang for their buck.

      It's not the first time Nintendo has been abusively anti-consumer rights, either. Remember Galoob v. Nintendo? They have a long history of abusing copyright to suit their ends. This is just another example.

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    7. Re:Apply logic to other things... by djdavetrouble · · Score: 4, Informative

      The DSi Flash Carts contain an actual poriton of a copyrighted rom that contains an exploit.

      How legit is that?

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    8. Re:Apply logic to other things... by jgagnon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Leave their sex life out of this...

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    9. Re:Apply logic to other things... by cappp · · Score: 5, Informative
      It’s impressive what a little selective quoting can do. The ruling in full reads

      One such suggested lawful use is for home-made games. However, such use will still circumvent the ETM, or otherwise the game will not play. The mere fact that the device can be used for a non-infringing purpose is not a defence, provided one of the conditions in section 296ZD(1)(b) (considered below) is satisfied.

      The judge goes into a nuanced consideration of the law as it stands, the snippet that’s being quoted is a taken out of context and ignores that huge modifier at the end there. The section in question states:

      "(1) This section applies where –
      (a) a technical device has been applied to a computer program; and
      (b) a person (A) knowing or having reason to believe that it will be used to make infringing copies -
      (i) manufactures for sale or hire, imports, distributes, sells or lets for hire, offers or exposes for sale or hire, advertises for sale or hire or has in his possession for commercial purposes any means the sole intended purpose of which is to facilitate the unauthorised removal or circumvention of the technical device; or
      (ii) publishes information intended to enable or assist persons to remove or circumvent the technical device.

      (2) The following persons have the same rights against A as a copyright owner has in respect of an infringement of copyright –
      (a) a person –
      (i) issuing to the public copies of, or
      (ii) communicating to the public,
      the computer program to which the technical device has been applied;
      (b) the copyright owner or his exclusive licensee, if he is not the person specified in paragraph (a);
      (c) the owner or exclusive licensee of any intellectual property right in the technical device applied to the computer program

      (6) In this section references to a technical device in relation to a computer program are to any device intended to prevent or restrict acts that are not authorised by the copyright owner of that computer program and are restricted by copyright.

      (8) Expressions used in this section which are defined for the purposes of Part 1 of this Act (copyright) have the same meaning as in that Part."

      The judge then goes on to establish the multi-stepped test required for a finding

      a claimant under s.296 needs to show the following things:

      (a) that there is a "technical device" which has been applied to a computer program;

      (b) that the defendant:
      (i) has manufactured, imported, distributed, sold etc, means the sole intended purpose of which is to facilitate the unauthorised removal or circumvention of the technical device;
      (ii) knows or has reason to believe that that means will be used to make infringing copies of the computer program.

      (c) that the claimant has standing to bring their claims because: (i) it is a person issuing to the public copies of, or communicating to the public, the computer program to which the technical device has been applied, or, if not such person, it is the owner of the copyright in the computer program, or his exclusive licensee; and/or
      (ii) it owns or holds an exclusive license to any intellectual property right in the technical device applied to the computer program

      Hardly the kind of extremist reasoning thats being suggested.

  2. Precedent set by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >>>'The economic effect on Nintendo of the trade in these devices is substantial as each accused device can store and play copies of many Nintendo DS games [...] The mere fact that the device can be used for a non-infringing purpose is not a defence.'
    >>>

    And then a few weeks later, other UK judges outlawed the use of VHS tapes, DVD-Rs, and MP3 recorders, for the same reason that these blanks can be used to copy movies and songs.

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  3. Read the decision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. Re:What about homebrew? by twidarkling · · Score: 4, Informative

    The mere fact that the device can be used for a non-infringing purpose is not a defence

    Right in the summary. They know, they just don't care.

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  5. Jailbreaking by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One big feature of jailbreaking iPhones is that you can install apps on your iPhone in a similar manner that you could install NDS games on an R4. Does this also mean that jailbreaking an iPhone is illegal there, too? It should be noted that a major feature of the R4s, and similar devices, was that you can run homebrew on your NDS, which I have. There's some decent homebrew (not that great of a selection, but still some good stuff) available, such as the (excellent) roguelike game POWDER.

  6. Re: Stupid Courts by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It gets better.

    Now that the UK has banned guns, they are starting to go after knives.

    They don't seem to be content with fighting knives, they want to go after kitchen knives too.

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  7. Maybe they could settle these cases faster by mykos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Plaintiffs and defendants should just fax the judge their financial records for the last year.
    Whoever has the most money wins the case.
    That way, we could save taxpayer money and the verdicts would invariably come out the same way as they would have through trial.

  8. Re:It's a bit unfortunate... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yup, I'm pretty sure we do. Regardless of one's feelings about piracy, positive or negative, it is an uncomfortable fact that any combination of law and technology sufficient to stamp out, or even seriously inconvenience, piracy will necessarily be downright authoritarian in power and scope, corrosive to privacy, and almost perfectly suited to the suppression of any other flavor of information, art, culture, speech, etc.

    These are just architectural necessities of any anti-piracy system that isn't going to be a penny-ante joke. Whatever you think about piracy, they are quite arguably too high a price to pay.

  9. To be fair by Vahokif · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you seriously think most people buy R4s for homebrew? That's like saying most people use torrents to get Linux ISOs.

    1. Re:To be fair by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Will that be your response when this UK court also bans any software which uses BitTorrent?

      After all, the fact that it has non-infringing uses is irrelevant, right?

  10. To play the devil's advocate by Vahokif · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'd have a point if 99% of people used knives to murder and 1% used them to cook.

  11. Thanks, Nintendo! by _KiTA_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had a CycloDS for my DS, but your DSi's firmware blocked it from working. This page reminded me to look, and sure enough, I can now buy a nice Acekard 2i for like $15 and/or a Supercrad DStwo for about $35 that does things your console should do natively (such as GBA and SNES emulation), both of which use the same 16 GB Micro SDHC card that my CycloDS uses, all of which will work with my nice Nintendo DSiXL.

    Of course, since I own physical copies of all the games I put on my flash cart, it's all ethically sound, if not legally unassailable. Fortunately for me, I am much more concerned with living ethically, if not legally, especially when in regards to stupid, anti-consumer laws like the ones that would outlaw this sort of thing. Although Nintendo might be screwed even in that case, because "Jailbreaking" a mobile device is now legal in the US. Since my DS is a mobile device, and the Acekard / DStwo are methods of "jailbreaking," -- i.e., running unapproved software -- well, seems to me the much loved DMCA that Nintendo would no doubt use to shut these things down in the US... wouldn't actually shut them down.

    So thank you, Nintendo. Thank you for reminding me to look for a DSi compatible flash cart, and reminding me I need to do my part to support small development studios like the Supercard and Acekard teams.

  12. Re:What about homebrew? by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    because you can use something else as a doorstop. Can you use anything else to run homebrew?

    Anyway, Auntie says that HMRC have siezed 165,000 of these things, that's a sizeable market. Hopefully pissing off that many ordinary consumers of Nintendo products (don't forget, all those people will have bought DSs) will hopefully hit them where it hurts.

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  13. Re: Stupid Courts by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As I understand it, there's a movement to ban any knife with a point, to reduce stabbings. Because banning tool #1 meant that people intent on violence switched to tool #2, banning tool #2 is sure to work this time! (What's that definition of insanty again?)

    It's at least hard to make a gun in your garage. But adding a point to a knife? Only the law will be pointless.

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  14. Funny, really ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    UK High Court

    The mere fact that the device can be used for a non-infringing purpose is not a defence.

    US Supreme Court in Sony vs. Universal:

    On the question of whether Sony could be described as "contributing" to copyright infringement, the Court stated:

    [There must be] a balance between a copyright holder's legitimate demand for effective - not merely symbolic - protection of the statutory monopoly, and the rights of others freely to engage in substantially unrelated areas of commerce. Accordingly, the sale of copying equipment, like the sale of other articles of commerce, does not constitute contributory infringement if the product is widely used for legitimate, unobjectionable purposes. Indeed, it need merely be capable of substantial noninfringing uses....


    It's interesting that the two courts took diametrically opposed positions on this subject. Of course, Congress pretty well neutered that decision with a succession of purchased laws culminating in the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, but that was one case where the Supremes ultimately got it right.

    And then, after all the hate and discontent they raised over the advent of the VCR, the movie industry went on to rake in billions selling VHS movies on writeable media played back on the previously-vilified Video Cassette Recorder. Money they would never have seen had the hardware companies not been free to develop and market something new. That was not a surprising attitude, though: the content cartels have always been about maintaining the status quo, and can't quite seem to wrap their heads around the fact that change can make money. But that would require them to actually think, and maybe do a little innovating of their own. But history has demonstrated conclusively that they don't know how to do that.

    Anyone remember Jack Valenti's impassioned monologue about how the VCR would "destroy the industry"? Yeah. He was spot on with that one, wasn't he. This is also the guy who said, "I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone." Right on, Jack. Point is, these are people who don't have anything on their minds but control, control and more control. It's not even about the money, it's about control. They've controlled matters so well, in fact, that I won't purchase a game console. I don't like who I'd have to thank for it, and I don't like their business models, and I don't like the fact that the machine isn't really mine. You want to lease the box to me, that would be different. But they don't: they want me to pay cold hard cash for the illusion of ownership (ha, kind of like buying a house, when you think about it.)

    Fact is, the content industries are mostly led by short-sighted fools. At some point, their stockholders are going to have to rise up and slay them, because they're throwing money away by not going with the flow, by not learning from history and their own mistakes, by being greedy to the point of sociopathy.

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  15. Re:What about homebrew? by twidarkling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dunno why you're devil's advocating to me, since I was just pointing out that his statement was already covered, but, eh, why not give you my take (using illegal and infringing interchangeably, since I'm talking generically)...

    I think a device should be judged based on a couple factors:

    1. Possible uses.
    2. Predominate uses.
    3. Harm to people from allowing illegal uses.
    4. Harm to people from removing device from circulation completely.

    Yes, this actually requires people to think, and not have cut and dried answers, but I think it's a fair way to evaluate something.

    If a device has 5,000 uses, good for it (1), but then everyone always just uses the two illegal uses (2), then you can judge the device as "bad," and get rid of it. If, however, it has two uses, and it's split 50/50 between illegal and legal uses, then you need to use tests 3 and 4. Say, your bomb doorstop. People would be killed if you, or someone you know, decided to set it off. That's a fairly massive amount of harm, and so your legal use doesn't outweigh the need to keep something like that safely locked away. Then you have test 4. Say a small group of people started using pacemakers to high-jack planes. Removing pacemakers from the market entirely just is not feasible. It would be incumbent upon airlines to secure planes against that interference.

    Of course, these are extreme examples, and where lines are drawn will be different with different products. Thus, arguing non-infringing use as a defence would be arguing that your personal gain, and the gain of others using it in your fashion, is greater than the loss suffered by allowing the illegal use to continue. In this case, it was decided that more people are using R4 cards in an illegal/infringing manner than are using it for legitimate uses, and the removal of the legitimate uses isn't doing any material harm to homebrewers beyond not being able to do homebrew, which Nintendo doesn't allow on their consoles any way, thus placing Nintendo in the same camp as Apple with jailbreaking, et al.

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