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Pizza Lovers Suffer Data Breach From Hell

netbuzz writes "Some 230,000 New Zealanders have been informed that their personal information has apparently fallen into the hands of hackers who compromised the network of a locally famous food chain, Hell Pizza. The company says it suspects 'a rogue employee,' but one security expert says Hell's ordering portal is 'about 50 steps of fail.' Several New Zealand celebrities are among the victims and at least one is taking the matter in stride, musing: 'My Twitter has been hacked, my Facebook has been hacked and I'm pretty sure half of New Zealand has my phone number already. I have nothing bad to say about Hell.'"

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  1. The Good Old Pizza Times by PizzaAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    This reminds me of the time when I was 13. We had just got out of school and bicycled home. You know why? Because I, let me clarify _I_, had this new awesome game Lemmings. When we got to my house, I would fire up my Amiga and we would just laugh at the stupid lemmings jumping to their death if I didn't do something to stop them. Making them dig, guide others, or give them umbrellas - it was great.

    The problem was that later on we obviously got hungry. This happened many times. Someone had to go get some food. Pizza was the obvious choice. But who would it be? I didn't want to. So we played a game of rock paper scissors. Damn, I lost. I tried to have an another round, but they didn't let me. There was nothing I could do.

    I had to get up my ass and go get pizza. I asked my friends what they wanted. Adam said he wanted a delicious Pepperoni pizza. Jim said he wanted a Hawaiian pan pizza. I tried to remember their choices and took my bike. On the way over to the restaurant I tried to think what I want. Supreme pizza, double-cheese or maybe double bacon cheeseburger pizza?

    I arrived at the pizza place. The taste was beautiful. I felt like I was home. I walked in and ordered three large pizzas, mine being the double bacon cheeseburger pizza. I felt so hungry. I just wanted to grab the pizza and eat. When the pizzas came, I had to eat there. I also took a few pieces of my friends pizzas because I wanted to taste them. Man I was happy.

    Back then we didn't have credit cards, so I paid with the small amount of money that was in my pocket. No problems for the vendor, no problems for me, and everything worked greatly. The lesson being - pay with cash.

    1. Re:The Good Old Pizza Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought the lesson was..

      "Don't let your asshole friend go to get the pizza, cause all he'll bring you home is a couple of cold slices"

    2. Re:The Good Old Pizza Times by Fluffeh · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had to get up my ass and go get pizza. I asked my friends what they wanted. Adam said he wanted a delicious Pepperoni pizza. Jim said he wanted a Hawaiian pan pizza. I tried to remember their choices and took my bike. On the way over to the restaurant I tried to think what I want. Supreme pizza, double-cheese or maybe double bacon cheeseburger pizza?

      So, PizzaAnalogyGuy, there seems to have been a little bit of a mix-up. This story wasn't supposed to get published till Christmas and your dream story ended up on /.

      Between me and you, don't be expecting anything big under the tree in a few months. You can however, cherish this story, and the fact that you got first post on it.

      *sips coffee*

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    3. Re:The Good Old Pizza Times by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Back then we didn't have credit cards, so I paid with the small amount of money that was in my pocket.

      Did you have to move aside the onion you wore on your belt as that was the fashion at the time?

    4. Re:The Good Old Pizza Times by pinkushun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I thought the lesson was: If you fetch the chow, you're entitled to a service fee, payable in consumables purchased. Hmmm Lemming Pizza :P~

    5. Re:The Good Old Pizza Times by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had to get up my ass...

      That's got to hurt!

      Your story reminds me of a High School job I had making pizzas.

      It was years before I could eat a pizza that I didn't make myself.

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  2. Security audits? by strayant · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shouldn't they be audited routinely if they conduct business online?

    1. Re:Security audits? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wouldn't be surprised if they just had IT security audits done by KPMG and Ernst & Young while the data was being pulled out by the truckload through a gaping hole, just like the Latvian banks...

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  3. It's a concern... by astroengine · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd hate it if half of New Zealand knew how much pizza I eat.

    1. Re:It's a concern... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Informative

      Its actually a really nice place. Without a doubt the best place I have been outside Australia. Their government is small scale, but it seems to work better that way.

    2. Re:It's a concern... by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually that's 99.936%, sir.

      Oh god, I think I just overexnerded myself. :(

    3. Re:It's a concern... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Funny

      To be fair, he was including the sheep.

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    4. Re:It's a concern... by tehcyder · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its actually a really nice place. Without a doubt the best place I have been outside Australia.

      So you've just been there and Australia then?

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  4. SQL Injection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    This isn't news.

    Their server would execute any SQL query sent to it. The SQL queries were hard coded into the Flash objects they used.

    1. Re:SQL Injection by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I'd like to order a large, thin crust, double cheese, pepperoni and drop table..."

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    2. Re:SQL Injection by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "I'd like to order a large, thin crust, double cheese, pepperoni and drop table..."

      No clear the table before you place your order so your pizza gets the priority it deserves.

    3. Re:SQL Injection by Splod · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can't believe nobody's made the "it was all fine until Bobby Tables ordered" joke yet: http://xkcd.com/327/

    4. Re:SQL Injection by pinkushun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why else would you Hack into a Pizza chain, other than to order free pizza?

      INSERT INTO ORDERS
      SELECT [cheese] AS [topping 1], [pepperoni] as [topping 2], [free] AS [price], [asap] AS [priority]

    5. Re:SQL Injection by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mate, you should try a Hell pizza. They are completely awesome. The website used to have pictures of the pizzas and they not like Italian/American pizzas at all as they have a large number of ingredients on top (not just cheese, pizza sauce and peperoni). My favourite is the "Mordor" and if you ever get to NZ you ought to try it. The other excellent pizza is the 'Unearthly' dessert pizza - sooo good.

  5. Re:So Hell Pizza requires Facebook/Twitter UID? by cduffy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A different way to read it is that the other hacks were independent, and the anonymous celeb is saying that Hell is no worse than any of the other organizations which were entrusted with personal information.

  6. Risky.Biz Explaination by SJ2000 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Risky.Biz

    Immediately I spotted the SQL Queries being made by the Flash SWF as part of the query string to the server-side. The Flash client makes queries which are hard-coded in the .swf (this is dumb as it means SQL Injection is effectively a 'feature' of the store). You could easily alter the query string to show the hashes stored in the MySQL users table. I figured out the version of MySQL was 4.0 (Debian Sarge) - and the hashes in this version are very weak, cracking them would take less than a couple of hours. MySQL was listening on a remote port, so one could simply log in remotely and run queries or dump the database slowly so as to not be noticed.

    1. Re:Risky.Biz Explaination by buchner.johannes · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Risky.Biz

      ... The Flash client makes queries which are hard-coded in the .swf (this is dumb as it means SQL Injection is effectively a 'feature' of the store).

      Their webdesign company is called "Inject Design Ltd.". Go figure ...

      You could easily alter the query string to show the hashes stored in the MySQL users table. I figured out the version of MySQL was 4.0 (Debian Sarge) - and the hashes in this version are very weak, cracking them would take less than a couple of hours.

      I'm unsure what hashes he is talking about here. Password hashes? What was the weak hash algorithm?

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  7. Re:So Hell Pizza requires Facebook/Twitter UID? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, he's saying that all of the otherwise-reputable companies he trusts have been letting him down lately because of their poor internet security. Facebook? Sucks. Hell Pizza? A big chain, i presume, and sucky security, obviously. Twitter? I don't know, but I don't trust them with anything important. Lots of banks, a ton of universities, and many other entities of various sizes expose you to risks such as identity theft. Strong, unique passwords are a no-brainer, but you can't protect yourself if the sites you trust expose your info to every script kiddie and 1337 hax0r who comes along. But I suppose knowing who the "celebrity" (quotes because we are talking about New Zealand) is, and thus how likely to be targeted he or she is.

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  8. Yes SIR!!!! by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 2, Funny

    I will get my ass of your lawn immediately, SIR!!!!

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  9. Old news, except for Hell by tbird81 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The original breech was at least one year ago, but Hell chose to ignore it. Whoever made their website allowed SQL code to be run from the url.

    Here's a blog by the owner of the geekzone forum that initially discovered the problem (because someone received spam from a disposable email address they used with the company.

  10. Hell Pizza is Awesome! by mad.frog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's actually brilliant pizza -- easily the best pie I've ever had outside of the USA (or Italy). Inventive topping combinations and skillfully made. I wish they'd open a franchise here in California.

  11. Re:Hell Pizza = Pizza in CA by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know if New York-style pizza can properly be called "pizza" by the definition most other places use. I like to think of it more as a highly efficient grease delivery system.

  12. Re:So Hell Pizza requires Facebook/Twitter UID? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    the "celebrity" (quotes because we are talking about New Zealand)

    Its obviously Russell Crowe

  13. at least they were upfront about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I received an email from Hell just under a week ago:

    "Dear Valued Hell Customer,

    We have been approached by a party claiming to be in possession of
    customer details from the previous Hell website which is no longer in
    operation. The samples that we received included details of four customers
    from 2006, including phone numbers and email addresses and order
    information. We can confirm that credit card data was not at risk as this
    is held independently on a secure banking website.

    Whilst we are still investigating the matter, we can confirm that the
    information was obtained without our knowledge and we have approached the
    New Zealand Police with a view to lodging a formal complaint."

    They were upfront and open to their clients about the data breach, in a world where most corporates prefer the 'duck and hide' tactic. I appreciated their honesty, and will continue to shop there.

    1. Re:at least they were upfront about it by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I appreciated their honesty,

            Yeah, they were so honest, they forgot to tell you about the other 229,996 customers...

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  14. Sad by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sadly, this isn't the only computer system security SNAFU. It isn't often that you hear about it, but many of the systems I have seen are security WTFs. I continue to be amazed at how little some programmers understand about their trade, and I just don't have words for people who think the security of their computer systems isn't important. Getting a system that is completely secure may be too much to expect, but the least you can do is not make it easy for someone to walk right in and do whatever they want with your data after 5 minutes of observing the publicly accessible part of your system!

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    1. Re:Sad by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Okay but how can you make a non-technical customer pay for security? They will go to the cheapest vendor and pay later when it stuffs up.

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  16. Oh noes they know I like seafood pizza by MisterSchmoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm not saying that I like all my information shared, but if they know my favourite pizza the worst case scenario is they send me one, I will wipe away the tears as I eat it.

  17. What I don't understand... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...is why the hell some outfits feel the need to collect that much information about you just to sell you some food. After all, it doesn't make them a single extra sale. If you're not hungry, you're not going to buy a pizza.

    Any shop that tries to get that kind of information out of me gets a flat refusal. Likewise, any venue that tries to take my fingerprints or iris scan.

    1. Re:What I don't understand... by somersault · · Score: 4, Insightful

      why the hell some outfits feel the need to collect that much information about you just to sell you some food.

      Email address: to reset your password if you forget it (you'd want an account so you don't have to type in your address and payment info each time).
      Address: should be obvious.
      Phone number: to phone in case they don't get an answer at the door.

      TFA doesn't mention any extra personal details that were stolen. I don't see what's so crazy about them needing these other details for online ordering.

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    2. Re:What I don't understand... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've met a woman with my same name....it's a strange world.

      I'll say! If I met a woman by the name of Crudely Indecent, I'd have to ask her the name of the movies she's starred in.

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    3. Re:What I don't understand... by Flea+of+Pain · · Score: 2, Funny

      This coming from "smooth wombat"... asl?

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    4. Re:What I don't understand... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.bluemaumau.org/police_and_collection_agencies_love_dominos_database_pizza_lovers

      They store it and happily sell it.

      P.S. dominoes pizza is nasty. Try a real pizza place like a smaller mom and pop that wants to make quality instead of the cheapest high profit one they can.

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