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Thermoelectrics Could Let You Feel the Heat In Games

myshadows writes "Tech Review has an interesting article on how Tokyo Metropolitan University researchers have been able to give a sensory addition to gaming peripherals — namely, temperature. 'As the range of interactions with digital environments expands, it's logical to ask what's next: Smell-o-vision has been on the horizon for something like 50 years, but there's a dark horse stalking this race: thermoelectrics. Based on the Peltier effect, these solid-state devices are easy to incorporate into objects of reasonable size, i.e. video game controllers. In this configuration, just announced at the 2010 SIGGRAPH conference, a pair of thermoelectric surfaces on either side of a controller rapidly heat up or cool down in order to simulate appropriate conditions in a virtual environment.'"

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  1. The real use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Games? Bring on the thermoelectric Fleshlight!

    1. Re:The real use by hipp5 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Games? Bring on the thermoelectric Fleshlight!

      May I introduce you to the Real Touch. Most definitely NSFW.

  2. For an even greater sensation... by Just_Say_Duhhh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Try making the thermoelectrics demonstrate the thermal grill illusion and you can convince the holder that he's been burned. I touched one of these at the Museum of Science & Industry, and I still remember it decades later.

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    1. Re:For an even greater sensation... by Twinbee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This would be an ideal research ground for the philosophical testing of pain without any long term real physical consequences. I wonder if one could get used to the pain signals after a while.

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    2. Re:For an even greater sensation... by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder if one could get used to the pain signals after a while.

      Only if you are human.

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  3. Re:Watch where you put that! by d474 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not the size of your joystick that counts, it's how HOT it gets!

    Truth be told, I have not yet been able to verify my hypothesis on this matter with a willing test subject.

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  4. What could possibly go wrong? by thomasdz · · Score: 3, Funny

    As I'm hit and fall into the pit of lava, the safety overrides fail and suddenly, yeah, my peripherals are trying their best to get me up to a thousand degrees C.
    THIS is why I continue to play Nethack.

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    1. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by stagg · · Score: 2, Funny

      As I'm hit and fall into the pit of lava, the safety overrides fail and suddenly, yeah, my peripherals are trying their best to get me up to a thousand degrees C. THIS is why I continue to play Nethack.

      The controller suddenly welds itself to your hand! Do you want your possessions identified?

  5. Reminded of the videogame scene: James Bond NSNA? by rsborg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The controller with pain feedback in Never Say Never Again:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUw9BJS06NI

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  6. You will be baked by Megahard · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. and then there will be cake.

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    1. Re:You will be baked by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 3, Funny

      The cake is a lie.

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  7. Re:Watch where you put that! by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, haha, genitals.

    Personally, I'd be more interested in alternate sensory input: embedded (or glued for a less permanent effect) magnets and er... vibrating compass belt.

    Ideas for gameplay connect? Belt might be neat for spider sense....

  8. Electric charge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wouldn't it be lovely if the controller could deal electric shocks? Or pretend-drown the player? "Because we can" isn't always sufficient justification.

  9. Re:Just one thing ... by Jamori · · Score: 2, Informative

    The devices TFA references are based on the Peltier effect which pumps heat from one side of the device to the other. When the direction of current flow through the device is reversed, the direction of heat transfer is also reversed.

    Moving heat away from one location is more commonly referred to as 'cooling', so a single device integrated in the controller would be able to both heat and cool the surface of the controller depending on the polarity of the applied current.

  10. Raynaud's sufferers better turn it off by Foobar_ · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some people have the circulation in their fingers and toes close off when their skin gets cold, which results in ischemia followed by inflammation once the circulation returns. Repeated events cause skin damage, connective tissue atrophy, and eventually you might lose your fingers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynaud's_disease

  11. Re:Just one thing ... by hack++slash · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ealier this year I bought a couple of standard sized 100watt peltier devices out of curiosity. When you feed them enough amps at 12v they can produce some amazing amount of heat, but to use them as a cooling device you need some way of removing all that heat it produces, large CPU heatsink setups are almost good enough but they're bulky & heavy.

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  12. Re:Reminded of the videogame scene: James Bond NSN by tonyfugere · · Score: 2, Informative
  13. Well actually... by Grimbleton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My system is AMD-based. I ALREADY feel the heat.

  14. In Soviet Russia, by uremog · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cooking Mama cooks you!

  15. Re:Watch where you put that! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are almost certainly thinking of "Journey to Wild Divine"...

    A bit on the woo-tastic side(Deepak Chopra is usually a bad sign); but I certainly don't know of any other myst-like biofeedback games.

    Someone has also hacked together an OSS driver for the biofeedback peripheral, in case you prefer stats to swamis.

  16. Re:But it's a heat pump... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    TECs can "switch sides" depending on the direction of current flow. They are horribly inefficient; but that(along with their small size and solid-stateness) is one of the things that makes them fun to play with.

    Connect the DC source one way, and this is the cold side, connect it the other way, now that is the hot side. It's the reason that they are generally used in the cheezy little heater/cooler units you can get for in-car use.

  17. Re:Watch where you put that! by plastbox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Finally! Someone besides myself who posts something related to sensory substitution/augmentation! ^^

    The compass belt would be a cool add-on to a lot of games. Make one that works like the linked one (with real world input) but add a Bluetooth interface so you can also get information from games and such. From what I've read about the (crazy) level of integration with these types of devices, I'd bet something like that would add a very decent upgrade to the sense of immersion (if not exactly useful information) to many games.

    What about Galvanic Vestibular Stimulation? I tried this with a 9V battery and a couple of makeshift electrodes fashioned from aluminum foil and duct tape. Ok, so I had no control of the current being passed through my head (which I believe should be <1,5mA) but when I popped on the electrodes, stood up with my eyes closed and flipped the switch.. Hell, I almost fell into my TV, and my friend who tried it actually did end up on the floor. It really does tip your balance in the direction of the anode, and I can imagine using this with f.ex. driving or flying simulator type games would be quite the experience.

    Perhaps a headband or hat of some sort with proximity sensors and small button vibrators? Something like the Haptic Radar project only discreet enough that us nerds and geeks at least would consider wearing it now and then even when not gaming (because sensomotoric correlations are the key to integration). Like with the compass belt idea, add Bluetooth and the ability for games to override the real-world information. Perhaps an added sense of distance (just like the headband works in the real world) to walls and objects in an FPS game?