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Keith Elwin Wins Pinball World Championship

Yesterday, writes reader woohoodonuts, "Keith Elwin won the world pinball championship in Pittsburgh, PA for the third consecutive year. The weekend-long event fielded 406 players from all over the world and distributed over $36,000 in prizes. The three games chosen in the final round were Stern Cheetah, Bally The Addams Family, and Bally Creature from the Black Lagoon. Keith scored over 500 million points on his final ball with $10,000 on the line to defeat fellow American, Andrei Massenkoff, by nearly 300 million points." Next year's gathering is slated for August 11-14, also in Pittsburgh.

110 comments

  1. Lots of good memories :) by splutty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The bar I worked at had The Addams Family pinball machine for about a year.

    Very good memories there :) "Thing! Lend a hand!"

    I'm glad there are still some of these weird people around that actually like a game of pinball! Way to go!

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    1. Re:Lots of good memories :) by v1 · · Score: 1

      that was my fav also. "Now you've done it!"

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    2. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

      I have so many cool memories of the Twilight Zone machine. "Battle the Power" and the movable hidden magnets under the board still taunt me in my dreams to this day.

    3. Re:Lots of good memories :) by JackCroww · · Score: 1

      "Keep the ball; I've got a whole bucketfull!"

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    4. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Addams Family pinball machine was addicting. I always ran out of money before unlocking all the rooms! I liked when people got mad and tilted the machine to the tune of Gomez saying "Tee-hee-hee, you're a funny guy!!!"

      I really enjoyed playing Star Trek: The Next Generation pinball at the mall...especially on one particular day when I noticed it was all lit up and making a ton of noise. On closer inspection, it was stuck in an infinite jackpot loop. No matter how many times a ball was lost, it would pop right back out. Meanwhile, every few seconds Lt. Worf would shout from the speakers "10 million!" as the video banner repeated it. The score was already like 1 billion+ or some ridiculous number. I couldn't help myself to playing for maybe 20 minutes...the machine created a pleasant sensory overload with all the flashing lights and noise, and everyone who walked past me thought I was the best pinball player in the world!

    5. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Telecommando · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The magnets don't move and they aren't exectly hidden but TZ is a fun game. If you want to talk about taunting your dreams, try repairing one of them, that will give you fits. TZ is one of the hardest machines to keep running. Medeival Madness and Addams family run a close second and third.

      But I find it interesting that two of the three games in the final round are from a company no longer making pinball games. Truly the era of pinball is coming to a close.

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    6. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Lectoid · · Score: 1

      I had the good fortune of working in an arcade fixing machines that had this game. Probably the only pinball game I ever got in to. I used to take the glass top off to "clean and test" it. Once I remember putting something under the flippers to catch a ball I missed so I could progress through the game.

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    7. Re:Lots of good memories :) by berashith · · Score: 1

      Dont touch the door! Dont touch the door! Dont touch the door!

    8. Re:Lots of good memories :) by splutty · · Score: 1

      Followed by AAAARGH! flipflipflipflipflip CRAP.

      And with 2 balls left out of 10 :)

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    9. Re:Lots of good memories :) by stokessd · · Score: 2, Informative

      I played Addams Family in grad school. The Student Union had it, and before that, they had Funhouse. Man did I drain a lot of quarters in that thing. A few years ago, I bought my own Addams Family, and while it's fun, it doesn't have the "magic" of going to the union and spending money I shouldn't have wasted.

      Sheldon

    10. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Chelloveck · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But I find it interesting that two of the three games in the final round are from a company no longer making pinball games. Truly the era of pinball is coming to a close.

      Well, considering that there's exactly one company currently making pinball machines...

      Dude, the era of pinball ended more than a decade ago. I was there, working at Capcom Coin-Op programming pinball machines when the bottom fell out. All the manufacturers shut down within just a few years, between 1995 and 1999. Stern had shut down their line years ago, but they re-opened after everyone else quit. As I understand it, Gary Stern himself decided that someone had to keep making machines. I don't know if it's even profitable; it's a labor of love.

      /me is the proud owner (and programmer of!) Big Bang Bar, due to be the next on the manufacturing line when Capcom got out of the biz.

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      Chelloveck
      I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
    11. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got the power!
      You've got the might!
      Get ready for battle!
      Beat the Black Knight!

      LMAO at Steve Ritchie.. Give me your money!

    12. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Sonny_Jimbod · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree that Gary Sterns loves making pinball and that Stern doesn't make as much money as they used to. Trouble is, they are stuck in a catch-22 situation. It costs a lot of money to make a fun pinball, the cost of the designers, playfield manufacture and putting it all together all add up to be a lot. The more complicated a table is, the more it costs to produce. Also, traditionally new players don't really like playing the complicated games, as they don't have much of a clue as to what is going on. What Stern has been doing for the last couple of years now is just knocking out machines for as cheap as possible, with little in the way of features for the more discerning 'pinhead'. This is good (I suppose) for first time players and operators, but it sucks for anyone with half an interest in pinball. He's got rid of most of the good designers so now most Stern tables are just boring rehashes of ones from previous years. He really is treading water trying to keep the company afloat. It really is a shame to see machines from Williams/Bally during the mid-90's and what is being made today. A lot gets said on mailing lists as to what the future of pinball is, but I'm betting is going down the same route as Harley. The baby boomer demographic who has a bit of spare cash burning in their pocket is disappearing, and once they are gone, Pinball just isn't appealing to kids who have played Xbox/PS3 etc. I really hope another company pops up, but it's not likely.

    13. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      I like the Bally and Midway as much as the next chap, but this becomes a story, when the winner is deaf, dumb and blind!

      "Strange as it seems, his musical dreams - Ain't quite so bad..."

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    14. Re:Lots of good memories :) by TheHawke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Shades of Raul Julia: "FIIFTY MILLLION!!" And there was great rejoicing (while the ball went down the drain).

      Tilting: "Heh heh heh, you're a funny guy!"

      That thing sucked more quarters out of my pocket in one day compared to when Gauntlet hit the streets.

      I don't think Cousin Itt is ever going to like me; I used him as target practice every time he came up.

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    15. Re:Lots of good memories :) by leadghost · · Score: 1

      After almost 20 years of playing Addams Family I FINALLY completed every room in the house just recently. Let me tell you....all hell breaks loose!

    16. Re:Lots of good memories :) by brufleth · · Score: 1

      Yeah Stern is pretty much the only company I know of that still makes new machines. There are a lot of collectors still out there though. The real shame is that Stern's new machines are apparently not all that great. I've heard they'll change the graphics on an old playing field setup and then release it as a new machine which is really lame. The creativity in the older machines is much better. I have an Addams Family machine which is in great working order. I had to spend some time and money to get it working well again though.

    17. Re:Lots of good memories :) by v1 · · Score: 1

      I've got a whole bucketfull

      pocketfull

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    18. Re:Lots of good memories :) by v1 · · Score: 1

      I think that only let three (or four?) balls loose at once. You could do that a few times in a game. Though looking back on it, it was probably very wasteful, but it was sure fun trying to juggle the multiball.

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    19. Re:Lots of good memories :) by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      TZ is one of the hardest machines to keep running.

      What about Jurassic Park? The ball went into unplayable areas regularly, and it had plenty of flimsy plastic things that jump and move and claw around until they broke. But great game play...

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    20. Re:Lots of good memories :) by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      They're not only complicated at first, but I think pinball is more expensive than most other arcade games (except things like Dance Dance Revolution - yeah I realize that's ancient now so I would come up with a more recent example if I had one).

      At least way back when, pinball machines were usually at least 50 cents (or 2 tokens)/game, and most video games were a quarter (or one token)/game. There is still a place around here called Nickel City that at least used to have a bunch of pinball games. Even those were multiple nickels (it cost to get in but games run on nickels except a bunch around the perimeter on free play), but still cheaper and in halfways decent shape.

      I should see if they still have a working Funhouse.

    21. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Rog69 · · Score: 1

      I have to agree about Jurrasic Park, I used to repair Pinball machines back in the mid 90's and it was a horrible machine to work on and had the highest call rate of any pin we ever had sited. I used to hate working on Data East machines in general. Bally Williams of that era were always the most engineer friendly machines to work on though, they had some pretty good built in diagnostics and were reasonably well put together (apart from Dr Who which was a bag of crap with that thing that was supposed to rise out of the playfield but used to jam most of the time)

    22. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Overly complex pinball isn't fun, it costs too much to build and maintain and it's hard to play a casual/drunk game. Pinball died because it lost its way.

    23. Re:Lots of good memories :) by J-1000 · · Score: 1

      The problem was the ticket dispensing machines. Pinballs (and standard video game cabinets) lost their popularity while ticket-dispensing games have endured. I understand the reluctance to add ticket dispensers to Pinballs, but they need it in order to have any shot at renewed popularity.

    24. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      The problem was the ticket dispensing machines. Pinballs (and standard video game cabinets) lost their popularity while ticket-dispensing games have endured. I understand the reluctance to add ticket dispensers to Pinballs, but they need it in order to have any shot at renewed popularity.

      Capcom tried it. All our pinballs had a ticket dispenser option, but it was never popular. It's not a game that really lends itself well to that market. Most redemption games are either pure luck, or are intrinsically limited by the design of the game. You only get a fixed number of balls in skee-ball, for instance. With pinball, a good player can theoretically make one ball last forever and rack up unlimited tickets on one play. You can artificially limit ball time, but then the player feels cheated. KingPin, which was due out next after Big Bang Bar, had a limited ball-time mechanic that was actually fun to play and fit the game's theme, but it would probably get tiresome if added gratuitously to too many games. Just like the magnets in Addam's Family: They worked great in that game, but the same gimmick felt cheap and artificial when it was used in some other games.

      But I think the big problem is that people who make pinball games actually are enthusiastic about it and want to make a fun game. Redemption games aren't meant to be fun in and of themselves, they're meant strictly to maximize profits for the location. (When I take my kids to an arcade, I let them play the redemption games but I don't let them keep the tickets. If the game is fun, the tickets don't matter. If they're playing just for the tickets, they should save their money and order the cheap crap prizes directly from Oriental Trading Company or someplace similar. Yeah, I'm a mean dad.)

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      Chelloveck
      I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
    25. Re:Lots of good memories :) by J-1000 · · Score: 1

      Great response, thanks. And yes, you are a mean dad ;)

      I'm glad to know it was tried. Although what you say is true about the inherent limitations of fun pinball machines, I'd also point out that you could simply cap the ticket output, or have it taper off dramatically, or have a heavy element of luck (a random multiplier) that determines the ticket output, rather than tying it 1:1 with the score.

      I just can't get rid of this nagging feeling that some things could have been done differently. For example, it wasn't the NES that pulled me away from arcades, it was the $0.50 price to play (yes, maybe I'm cheap). Do you know if they ever did good studies to justify the price doubling and tripling? Because it seemed ill-advised and greedy to me. (25 cents in 1985 would only just now be hitting 50 cents after 25 years of 3% inflation.)

    26. Re:Lots of good memories :) by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      Capping or reducing the ticket payout as the game gets longer isn't really a good strategy. Good players feel they're being penalized for being good (which they are). Bad players are still better off dropping quarters into a pure-luck redemption game. Neither is good for repeat business.

      And repeat business is necessary, because pinball machines are expensive to maintain. A video game needs to have its screen wiped and its cashbox emptied. You can hire a high-school dropout to do that. Redemption games require a little more skill to maintain, but they generally only have a few moving parts. Pinball has a ton of moving parts and takes a reasonably sophisticated maintenance guy to keep in good shape. Financially, pinball is a lousy investment for an operator.

      As far as cost to play goes, you're right. Prices have approximately doubled between 1985 and 2010. (Though I would actually put the beginning of the arcade era at 1980, which was a couple years after Space Invaders hit and also the year Black Knight was released.) The cost to play can't rise gradually, though. You can't go from $.25 to $.30 -- there are no $.30 coins, and operators aren't going to be happy about having to make change in both quarters and nickels. So if you started at $.25/play, the next step really has to be $.50/play. There are some ways to fudge it (like 1 play for $.50, 3 plays for $1) but the industry really set itself up for $.25 price increments.

      It's a combination of factors, but sadly, the game of pinball is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If Gary Stern hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-GAME!!

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      Chelloveck
      I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
  2. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah.

    But did he do it without shaking the machines?

    1. Re:Yeah by MRe_nl · · Score: 2, Funny

      But is he deaf, dumb and blind?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIPKFVa5DP8

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    2. Re:Yeah by jb_nizet · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but, in other news:

      Extra! Extra! Read all about it.
      Pinball wizard in a miracle cure.
      Extra! Extra! Read all about it.
      Extra!

      (The only song I know the lyrics by heart)

    3. Re:Yeah by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      Heretic, at least link to the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AKbUm8GrbM

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    4. Re:Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Yeah by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

      Please accept my most sincere apologies. I know not what malicious demon urged me to confront you with Elton John.
      Maybe I can make it up to you. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

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    6. Re:Yeah by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      You've overpayed sir, here is your change: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUlw4NT08Ds

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  3. it's not even posted under idle by underqualified · · Score: 2, Insightful

    slow news day?

    1. Re:it's not even posted under idle by SolitaryMan · · Score: 2

      The news is OK, IMO, but the reporting is terrible: no pictures, no article, just the results tables. I was actually hoping to see a video of some awesome moves and the pictures from the event to get the feeling of it, but.. well, keep googling...

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    2. Re:it's not even posted under idle by Ogive17 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why Idle? Winning the World Pinball Championship sounds extremely nerdy to me, seems to fit in with what /. is meant to be. While the article isn't anything special, I think the news fits in well.

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    3. Re:it's not even posted under idle by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

      News for Nerds.

      Pinball Alleys -> Video Game Arcades -> Bulletin Boards -> The Internet -> Slashdot.

      Now get off my lawn.

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    4. Re:it's not even posted under idle by Cylix · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah,

      You totally missed the flying double jump kick to the right bumper. He later followed up with a round house flying dragon fist to the left bumper.

      Though nothing beats the final move that helped the winner beat the loser by 200 million points.....

      He performed the triple lindy to simultaneously trigger both bumpers in multi-ball mode. Without such a devastating move he wold never have been able to become champion.

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      "You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours." -- Yogi Berra
  4. He's a Pinball Wizard by mim · · Score: 2, Funny

    There's got to be a twist!

    1. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by Keerok · · Score: 1

      The Twist is that he has a reaaaally subtle wrist..

    2. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by smurfsurf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey grandpa ;-)

    3. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by SailorSpork · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed there is. The Pinball Wizard's got such a supple wrist. He's got crazy flipper fingers, never seen him fall. I also hear he plays by intuition.

    4. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by todrules · · Score: 2, Funny

      But how do you think he does it?

    5. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never married...

    6. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by dfetter · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know. What makes him so good?

      --
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    7. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He ain't got no distractions

    8. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He ain't got no distractions; can't hear those buzzers and bells. Don't see lights a flashin', plays by sense of smell.

    9. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by Biff+Stu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, that's the problem with winning that contest. There is a twist. Every time you go out in public Rodger Daltrey and Pete Townshend follow you around singing that damn song. At first you think it's pretty cool, but after a couple of weeks you want to kick their asses and smash Pete's guitar. Then you realize that you will never get a chance to smash the f***'in guitar because Pete always beats you to it and that's when you're really pissed.

    10. Re:He's a Pinball Wizard by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      Surprising.

  5. Not at All by maroberts · · Score: 4, Funny

    Stuff that Matters :-)

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  6. Pictures? Video? by Yuioup · · Score: 2

    Are there any pictures or videos of the event?

    Y

    1. Re:Pictures? Video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I found this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqSAYRs9nto not sure which day it was recorded. When I was there on Saturday it was a lot busier than this. I did horrible in division C...

    2. Re:Pictures? Video? by caino59 · · Score: 1

      Another good one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj_hBAsaCDc

      This event really is something to see in person, it's awesome - been there the past 3 years. Lucky for me, I also get to party there in December.

  7. elsewhere, in the world of anachronistic sports by eatvegetables · · Score: 1, Funny
    elsewhere, in the world of anachronistic sports ...

    1. Gertrude, "the Beast", Rosensplinter wins 2010 Grosvenor championship.

    2. Punjabi Cricket referee sanctioned for under-regulation sock length.

    3. Bull-baiting champion Clive Rosenrochflockensberger retires after 15 years. Recalls many fine seasons at Hockley-in-the-Hole. Disparages Tutbury.

    1. Re:elsewhere, in the world of anachronistic sports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2. Punjabi Cricket referee sanctioned for under-regulation sock length.

      Oh North Americans. You're so quaint. Don't you know that cricket has a larger global following than baseball?

    2. Re:elsewhere, in the world of anachronistic sports by localman57 · · Score: 1

      Um, no. No we don't.

    3. Re:elsewhere, in the world of anachronistic sports by cgenman · · Score: 1

      Are you counting by fans or by hours watched?

      Hours... and hours... and hours...

    4. Re:elsewhere, in the world of anachronistic sports by eatvegetables · · Score: 1

      Oh non-North-Americans, you are so sensitive about your cricket. Never said that cricket wasn't popular, only that it was an anachronism. It has held on well to its pre-Victorian affectations.

  8. He's a pinball wizard . . . by pacergh · · Score: 1

    Did he get a crown?

    1. Re:He's a pinball wizard . . . by dangitman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did he get a crown?

      I think that's a king. Wizards have fiery balls.

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    2. Re:He's a pinball wizard . . . by Maclir · · Score: 1

      That deaf dumb and blind boy... sure plays a mean pinball.

    3. Re:He's a pinball wizard . . . by jlmale0 · · Score: 1

      And the difference between a witch and a warlock?

      Witches don't have wands.

    4. Re:He's a pinball wizard . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no he got $10,000 and a very cool trophy

  9. What is your favorite pinball machine? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    In my opinion, the best pinball game ever was Black Knight 2000.

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    1. Re:What is your favorite pinball machine? by fl!ptop · · Score: 1

      One of my favorites of all time was Gorgar. Other of my favorites over the years include:

      Comet

      Superman

      And of course, the multiball classic High Speed.

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    2. Re:What is your favorite pinball machine? by Beerdood · · Score: 1

      Not sure if could list a favorite... too many to choose from. I'll always remember White Water and Medieval Madness, as they were probably the hardest games to "complete" (meaning that after 6 months or so of playing, I finally achieved the final super jackpot thingy after completing all the other mini-games).

      I find the best formula for a pinball game involves :

      - A good story / event actions that make you laugh (Addams Family, Medieval Madness, Fish Tales)
      - A "final event" that's difficult to achieve, but not impossible (i.e. the "red line mania" final event in "High speed 2: The Getaway" wasn't that hard to get, and didn't feel that satisfied when I reached that point)
      - Unique and fun video mode / mini-game (i.e. "Battle the Power" in Twilight Zone)
      - WORKING FLIPPERS (nothing I hate more than hitting a ball half way up a ramp with a perfect shot and having it fall back down)
      - Decent tilt setting (allows some leeway for shaking the machine a bit, but will set of the tilt if you shake it too much)

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    3. Re:What is your favorite pinball machine? by nolife · · Score: 1

      Mine is Time Machine from Data East. A close second was Funhouse, Black Knight, T2, or Rollergames. I guess I liked just about all of them except for one machine circa mid 80's which had a wavy no flat glass play field, a magnetic hole, and a lot of proximity sensors but I don't remember the name.

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    4. Re:What is your favorite pinball machine? by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      By your list I'd opt for Xenon. No pin has ever looked as hot and the final event is a geek's ultimate wet dream. Flippers and tilt were great as it was a Bally game.

      In Williams country I'd nominate ST:TNG for its numerous stories, great final event, acceptable video mode, exciting warp factor progression and those insanely great launchers.

      Down Gottlieb way I'd vote for Close Encounters of the Third Kind in the digital category, and Spin Out in the Best Value when you only have one Quarter at the Arcade category (because you could win up to 9 games in one game).

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    5. Re:What is your favorite pinball machine? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      I remember playing Gorgar. It's on eBay right now for $850. Other notable pinball machines I remember playing are Caveman (a pinball/video game hybrid, it had a joystick on the front between the bumpers), and also Pinbot & 8-Ball Deluxe.

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      Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
    6. Re:What is your favorite pinball machine? by sho-gun · · Score: 1

      The original Black Knight was IMHO better. It was far more challenging and was around the time when
      Williams used some cool-ass sounds. Of course that was back in the heyday where the arcade operators
      were pinball fans and kept the tables in top shape.

      The first High Speed ranks up at the top as well. Other Williams honorable mentions: PinBot, Adams Family,
      Twighlight Zone. F14 was cool (I wonder how many flippers operators went thru with those extra strong kickbacks)
      but way too easy in most arcades.

      Bally favorites: 8Ball Deluxe, Silverball Mania, Space Invaders. Old-school Capn Fantastic and 8ball were a challenge too.

      Gotleib: Hauted House was probably my fav. The 70's style mechanicals based on card games etc. were always fun.

      Anyone remember Atari's oversized Hercules and Superman tables with the balls that must have weighed 10lbs each?

      Ahh.. its a shame Bally and Williams moved on to the slot machine biz. But you can't blame them because there's
      huge money in slots nowdays. They certainly seem to pour the creativity into them.

    7. Re:What is your favorite pinball machine? by fl!ptop · · Score: 1

      also Pinbot & 8-Ball Deluxe

      I totally forgot about Pinbot, that was a pretty good one. I liked 8-Ball Deluxe too, but was annoyed that the guy on the score background looked like the blacksmith on the farm I worked on. "Shoot for......8-ball.....Go for.....Deluxe!" Them was the days!

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  10. Starwars Episode 1 & Twilight Zone by Fibe-Piper · · Score: 1
    I know mentioning Episode 1 may get me tagged as flamebait - but that was a seriously fun pinball game.

    But I think the best game ever had to be the Twilight Zone. It freaks me out just thinking about getting the "POWERBALL!".

    The fact that they included the Addams Family as one of the games in this contest definitely makes it legitimate IMHO!

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    I went to battle M.C. Escher, but drew a blank.
    1. Re:Starwars Episode 1 & Twilight Zone by andrewd18 · · Score: 1

      Twilight Zone was excellent. I miss that machine. My local bowling alley (with attached arcade) had one I'd visit once a week, and suddenly one Saturday it was gone and replaced with Terminator: Judgement Day.

    2. Re:Starwars Episode 1 & Twilight Zone by Cylix · · Score: 1

      To which that annoying machine would randomly spout out, "It's judgment day."There must have been some deal because nearly the exact same thing happened in my local cinema. On the far side of the theater was Adam's Family, but it tended to be offline a good deal. At least with judgment day it had a mini-game which would give you a chance for one last free ball. For those of us who were never quite that skilled it was a very welcome reprieve. I do remember the balls in that game had a tendency to fall down the "no bumper" chute. All I could do was watch in sorrow as my quarter sank into the abyss.

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    3. Re:Starwars Episode 1 & Twilight Zone by nacturation · · Score: 1

      I used to play that game on a ferry ride and when it was time to get off an hour later I had at least several free games left... waiting for the next lucky person. I'm guessing whatever settings were on that thing were set to "way too easy" mode, or that it was just an easy game all around.

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    4. Re:Starwars Episode 1 & Twilight Zone by andrewd18 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm still pretty terrible. My only high score entries on a public machine came on that Terminator: Judgement Day machine.

  11. We're not gonna take it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put in your earplugs, put on your eye shades,
    You know where to put the cork.

  12. Woohoo! A fantastic for everyone who likes pinball by sjonke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't believe this got posted on Slashdot, and am thrilled that it was. Such a great, great event. If you like pinball in the slightest, you need to head to Pittsburgh next year for PAPA 14. The tournament is the emphasis, but the PAPA facility is huge and filled wall to wall with one of the largest and most amazing collections of pinball machines in the world. Everything from "bingos" to the newest pinball machines. You don't need to play in the tournament to enjoy this event, though it's even better if you do play in it. Also you can pick up essential skills just by watching the top tier players, and this year there were 3 HD video cameras that made it possible to actually see them play. Hopefully next year more cameras will be put in place so that all the games can be watched, or perhaps just more HD cameras, with the facility able to switch which are shown on the big screens. That would make it possible to keep the action showing on the screens during the finals without needing to fork out for more TVs.

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  13. It's to bad most games on site are beaten to death by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's to bad most games on site are beaten to death and they don't get fixed as well.

    At least a few places like game works try to keep them working and they even get new test games as well.

  14. Revenge From Mars is much better! by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Revenge From Mars is much better!

    1. Re:Revenge From Mars is much better! by Fibe-Piper · · Score: 1

      OK - but you aren't saying anything about that pinball game. Great name though!

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  15. You missed the parallel (hardware) one by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1
    Pinball Alleys -> Watching service engineer -> Understanding relays and solenoids -> Understandingg tubes -> Understanding transistors and ICs -> Becoming electronic engineer -> Discovering embedded systems -> Learning Unix -> Becoming system architect.

    For many of my generation, the pinball was the first electronic machine you could interact with, before even programmable calculators, and a lot more interesting than BASIC on green and white alternate line paper. Understanding how it worked was an introduction to what could be done with simple boolean logic, latching relays, and electromechanical counters.

    Now get off my lawn before the robot mower hits you.

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  16. Warning: Blatent plug for Open Source Pinball OS by Sonny_Jimbod · · Score: 1

    I've been working with a guy called Brian Dominy (last time I checked he was 132rd on the wppr) who has designed and created an open source operating system that runs on the original WPC hardware found in pinball tables: http://www.oddchange.com/freewpc/ You can use it to change the rulesets and animations for WPC games, I have to admit it's been great fun working on the project and I'd encourage others to do so as well.

  17. Keith will be at Pacific Pinball Expo in October by dannyastro · · Score: 1

    He will have his cool set up that places video cameras over the playfield so you can watch the amazing action. October 1-3, Marin County Civic Center, San Rafael, CA. http://www.pacificpinball.org/.

  18. Re:It's to bad most games on site are beaten to de by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Fixing pinball machines is expensive...

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  19. for anyone else wondering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when it says Keith Elwin won the tournament for the third consecutive year, it means he is now 12, and getting too old for this shit.

    (just kidding - I have no idea how old he is).

  20. Re:It's to bad most games on site are beaten to de by splutty · · Score: 1

    Actually. Fixing pinball machines in itself isn't all that expensive. Some of the more exotic parts might set you back a bit if you don't have your own metal shop, but mostly it's just very time intensive.

    Now fiddly bits like the lights you have to change, for which you have to basically take half the machine apart are horrible. The later designs thankfully are a bit more maintenance aware in that you only have to take about a quarter of the machine apart :)

    Where the real cost comes in is if you want to restore it to 'original', so with original flippers, bands, artwork, etc. *that's* when it gets expensive.

    Just maintaining a working machine to play on, not so much.

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  21. Tilt settings? by Beerdood · · Score: 1

    Just curious if anyone here that attended knew about the tilt settings for these games. There doesn't appear to be anything in the rules or contest information. I find that a critical part of the enjoyment and challenge of a pinball game is being allowed to wiggle the machine a bit to save that ball if necessary, at the risk of losing your turn if you shake the machine around too much. Ultra-sensitive tilt is no fun, but If the tilt detector is non-existent there's no challenge either as you could almost get infinite turns (I remember playing a couple of games where you could lift the entire machine to save your ball if it went down a side panel)

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    1. Re:Tilt settings? by IronChef · · Score: 1

      I have never played in a tournament but my understanding is that the tilt is set to be very, very sensitive. A tilt setting that a "normal" player considers to be just loose enough to be fun is too easy for the truly good players. I have seen videos of players nudging a game in such a way that the ball works its way back up out of a side drain... You don't want that in a tournament, you'd be there forever.

  22. can we get a final rom update for Big bang bar? by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    can we get a final rom update for Big bang bar?

    1. Re:can we get a final rom update for Big bang bar? by Sonny_Jimbod · · Score: 1

      No, because Chelloveck doesn't own the rights to make the update, even if they still had the tools to do so.

    2. Re:can we get a final rom update for Big bang bar? by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      No, because Chelloveck doesn't own the rights to make the update, even if they still had the tools to do so.

      That's true, I have neither the rights nor the tools. I tried to finagle a copy of the source code when I got laid off, but they wouldn't let me take it.

      However, Pfutz did make an update after I left, and got permission to distribute ROM images of all the Capcom pinball machines. You can find them linked off his home page, at http://home.comcast.net/~pfutz/Capcom/index.htm.

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  23. Re:It's to bad most games on site are beaten to de by brufleth · · Score: 1

    I have an Addams Family machine and it isn't too bad. I had to pay someone to take a look at it when we first got it because it was reseting (turned out just to be a harness problem) but lots of the typical repairs require no more than maybe some pliers or a soldering iron. I'm pretty sure that many machines in arcades could be fixed pretty easily but the arcade owners are too lazy or won't take the few minutes to figure out what needs to be done. Parts aren't even that expensive. A whole flipper kit is only like twenty bucks, bulbs are cheap in bulk, etc.

  24. "World" Championship by Mojo66 · · Score: 1

    When will the "World" Championship be outside of the US?

    1. Re:"World" Championship by mqduck · · Score: 1

      There's a world outside the US?

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  25. Sure but can he... by kalirion · · Score: 1

    So he won the World Championship, but the important question is, can he make the Android live?

  26. oh, pinball by jjbenz · · Score: 1

    I skimmed the headlines earlier, and I swear I saw paintball world championship. Yeah, I guess pinball makes more sense.

  27. Re:It's to bad most games on site are beaten to de by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's to bad most games on site are beaten to death and they don't get fixed as well.

    At least a few places like game works try to keep them working and they even get new test games as well.

    For real? They only really use this facility once a year and the games are very well-maintained... This isn't some Dave and Buster's.

  28. Tetris World Championship by sponga · · Score: 1

    Surprised this didn't get coverage

    http://tetrischampionship.com/

  29. Gottlieb Rules! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can you have a pinball championship without a Gottlieb electro/mechanical game from the late 70s? Now THAT's a pinball MACHINE!

  30. Other Pinball Events by Rogue_F · · Score: 1

    Being an avid pinball player I was pleased to see this make it onto /. I thought I would post some other great pinball events in California.

    Already occured (but will happen again next year)
    Pin A Go Go http://www.pinagogo.com/ May 14-16 Dixon California
    California Extreme http://www.caextreme.org/ July 17-18 2010 Santa Clara California

    Upcoming
    Pacific Pinball Expo http://www.pacificpinball.org/ Oct 1-3 2010

    All of them are great shows and we're lucky here in northern California to have 3 great pinball conventions.

    Also anyone else interested in pinball in the northern California area there is the Bay Area Pinball Association (BAPA) http://www.bayareapinball.org/
    There are a number of players in our league who compete in our local tournaments, as well as the various California Tournaments, and even national and international tournaments. In fact the #2 player at PAPA A division was from our league (Andrei).

    Pinballers are a dying breed. Play while you can...join a league...have fun.

    -Alex

  31. Re:It's to bad most games on site are beaten to de by keytoe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's to bad most games on site are beaten to death and they don't get fixed as well.

    I never really understood pinball or enjoyed it much up until a few years ago. In my mind, the premise of pinball was to bang the ball around, cross your fingers and hope it didn't go down the drain. Repeat for three balls, insert more coins.

    Then, a few year ago I had a friend who worked at a bar where the manager was into pinball. This manager made sure that there were always a couple of well maintained pinball cabinets with good gameplay. The staff would finish a night shift and play pinball until dawn on many occasions, which hooked my friend.

    He in turn explained to me that there was actually strategy to these things. You didn't just bang the ball around - you made sequences of shots to advance a game. You calculated your shots. You aimed. There was a process to gaining a multiball - and more importantly, there were times when triggering the multiball was much more advantageous in terms of your score.

    Once enlightened, I was hooked. At one point, I used to be able to plop two bucks into The Lord of the Rings for the 5 credits and play for a couple of hours off the replays. Regrettably, that manager moved on and the cabinets fell into disrepair. Nothing kills a good game of pinball quite like a dead switch making it impossible to advance the story. I quit playing there, and they lost my beer money. There are currently zero places in town now where I can get a quality round of pinball.

    This is the tragedy of pinball as I see it. The money required to manufacture and maintain these things is so large compared to the income derived that it's not surprising, to be honest. Even worse, your target market actually becomes less profitable as they improve and earn free games. Basically, you're hoping to capture the 'bang the ball around' crowd as your primary income source - which runs counter to making good, deep games.

    My long term goal is to buy a cabinet for myself. I'm actually looking forward to the maintenance as a hobby!

  32. I tryed to play LOTR games with bad fipper buttone by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    I tryed to play LOTR games with bad / poor flipper buttons / flippers and that just kills the game a few years ago I was in reno NV and there 3 of them all with bad flippers one place did have a roller games that I think was working good for it's age. The VP + VPM ver is not as good the real game but it's better then the beat down game on site.

    LOTR is a real good game.

  33. Re:Woohoo! A fantastic for everyone who likes pinb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can learn great tips from Keith himself with the Pinball 101 DVD here:
    http://www.filmbaby.com/films/4276

    Watch championship play from a recent tournament with an overhead view:
    http://vimeo.com/13530521

    Watch professional pinball play on the TourneyCam system at the upcoming Pacific Pinball Expo:
    http://pacificpinball.org/exposition

  34. Re:It's to bad most games on site are beaten to de by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

    Why don't they make "hobbyist" machines, like Arduinos and bread boards but for pinball machines?

    Why should there even be "exotic parts"? Surely in all of mankind's engineering prowess we can figure out how to build a pinball machine with common, pre-machined parts.

  35. Re:I tryed to play LOTR games with bad fipper butt by keytoe · · Score: 1

    I tryed to play LOTR games with bad / poor flipper buttons / flippers and that just kills the game a few years ago I was in reno NV and there 3 of them all with bad flippers one place did have a roller games that I think was working good for it's age. The VP + VPM ver is not as good the real game but it's better then the beat down game on site.

    It's a great game - chock full of complicated bits that can go wrong, and when any of the bits go wrong, it's a terrible game :)

  36. Re:It's to bad most games on site are beaten to de by DZign · · Score: 1

    A lot of people are working on their own custom machines - some just change the artwork and layout of a playfield, some make everything including the whole hardware and software from scratch.
    On my site http://www.flippers.be/ I have an overview of custom pinball machines.