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"Dislike" Button Scam Hits Facebook Users

An anonymous reader writes "A message saying 'I just got the Dislike button, so now I can dislike all of your dumb posts lol!!' is spreading rapidly on Facebook, tempting unsuspecting users into believing that they will be able to "dislike" posts as well as "like" them. However, security researchers say that it is just the latest 'survey scam', tricking Facebook users into into giving a rogue Facebook application permission to access their profile, and posting spam messages from their account. The rogue application requires victims to complete an online survey (which makes money for the scammers) before ultimately redirecting to a Firefox browser add-on for a Facebook dislike button developed by FaceMod. "As far as we can tell, FaceMod aren't connected with the scam — their browser add-on is simply being used as bait," says Sophos security blogger Graham Cluley."

179 comments

  1. Mod the post by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 4, Funny

    -1 "Dislike"

    1. Re:Mod the post by Jurily · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why should I care about the scuttlebutt of the internet.

      Don't know about you, but a lot of my friends use it, and guess who gets to clean up the mess every time they fall for something like this.

    2. Re:Mod the post by FuckingNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know... are they responsible for themselves?

      Oh, that's right, they never have to learn because you'll be there to fix the problem every time.

    3. Re:Mod the post by jgagnon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It takes a village to raise an idiot...

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    4. Re:Mod the post by ciderbrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because they get their machines taken over.
      A bot-net gets bigger.
      A granny can't use her machine.
      Evil porn is served up from Teh Gran Machine.
      The state kick down Gran's door and take her away.
      Gran gets 30 years in jail. She's 96.

      I missed out profit & base ownership claims. It is all bad for Gran.

    5. Re:Mod the post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a working Dislike button actually:

      http://not-like.com/

    6. Re:Mod the post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      guess who gets to clean up the mess every time they fall for something like this

      Nobody?

    7. Re:Mod the post by Luis_Carlos_Torrao · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Cool ______________________ Luis Torrao http://www.luistorrao.com/

    8. Re:Mod the post by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      You're obviously not a sailor. The scuttlebutt is a good place to hang out, hear the gossip, swap lies, learn irrelevant stuff, and get a drink, while avoiding work.

      Oh - wait - maybe you have it right after all?

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    9. Re:Mod the post by dunezone · · Score: 1

      And charge them every time.

    10. Re:Mod the post by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      yes that was exactly my use of the word. You just can't quench your thirst there.

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    11. Re:Mod the post by JustOK · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yes, please. Swiss. Just the holes (they taste better), if you don't mind, and even if you do. Thanks for asking.

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    12. Re:Mod the post by cjjjer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I used to do this as well till I got tired of "fixing" my families and friends computers all the time. I stopped and when they had issues told them to take it to XYC company to get it fixed as I was "busy" a nice big fat bill and in some cases losing all their files made them think a bit more about security and "just clicking on any-old-thing".

    13. Re:Mod the post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you just try to promote your underconstruction website?

    14. Re:Mod the post by arkane1234 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... but it only takes a B-52 to raze a village.

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    15. Re:Mod the post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Given that there's a 50% chance that all Gran does is forward teabagger garbage on FB, fuck Gran.

    16. Re:Mod the post by jgagnon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Love Shack, baby!

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    17. Re:Mod the post by CeruleanDragon · · Score: 1

      Oh come on... there's gotta be *some* way to make profit in all of that... maybe steal her underwear while she's in jail? (yes, South Park reference, not meant to be dirty)

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    18. Re:Mod the post by jonoid · · Score: 1

      The thing is that this is such an easy thing to identify as a scam. I noticed on my news feed about this, clicked the link and was redirected to a "click here to enable this button" page that was pure text, no Facebook log or anything. So obviously a scam of some sort that I cant believe anyone would fall for this sort of thing.

    19. Re:Mod the post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should I care about the scuttlebutt of the internet.

      Don't know about you, but a lot of my pro bono clients use it, and guess who gets to clean up the mess every time they fall for something like this.

      FTFY.

    20. Re:Mod the post by mcgrew · · Score: 1, Troll

      It takes a village to raise a child, it only takes a child with matches to raze a village.

    21. Re:Mod the post by GeckoAddict · · Score: 1

      Start charging them going rates and I'll bet you they become a lot more interested in security...

    22. Re:Mod the post by kenj0418 · · Score: 1

      Gran gets 30 years in jail. She's 96.

      I missed out profit ...It is all bad for Gran.

      I don' t know - sounds like free nursing home care to me. I'll have to remember this strategy for later.

    23. Re:Mod the post by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      ...so this is Social Security?

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    24. Re:Mod the post by CeruleanDragon · · Score: 1

      Troll?? Aw come on, that was at least marginally funny. Don't even tell me you've never wanted to stone some complete idiot. Maybe not to death, let's not be mean, but at least pelt them with pebbles.

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    25. Re:Mod the post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your grandma teabags? Giving or receiving?

    26. Re:Mod the post by krewemaynard · · Score: 1

      Like ='3

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    27. Re:Mod the post by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      Why should I care about the scuttlebutt of the internet.

      Says the guy commenting on a Slashdot article.

    28. Re:Mod the post by SnEptUne · · Score: 1

      Just made them use Linux/BSD.

  2. News? by SimonTheSoundMan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Been going on for months.

    1. Re:News? by l0b0 · · Score: 1

      How about years? It's still September...

  3. Everybody Panic! by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

    OH Noes!

    (obligatory anim GIF) http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n13/greatcapp/oh-noes-everybody-panic.gif

    I never listen to those "check out this new feature" ads.
    Invariably you have to hop through hoops. It's never free.

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  4. Facebook is a Ponzi scheme by hessian · · Score: 1, Interesting

    1. Set up really popular new big thing!
    2. Have 500 million morons congregate.
    3. They do ??? which is important because ???
    4. Sell ads for products they probably don't purchase because they're just goofing off on the internet because they're too broke to go do something fun instead.
    5. ???
    6. Profit!

    1. Re:Facebook is a Ponzi scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      While your little list doesn't really make any sense, I do agree that Facebook doesn't currently have a sustainable business model. However, how does any of that equate to a Ponzi Scheme? Or do you have absolutely no idea what that means, and just thought it sounded good?

    2. Re:Facebook is a Ponzi scheme by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Uhuh. The you don't know what a Ponzi scheme is, and it's the *facebook* users that are the morons... riiiight.

    3. Re:Facebook is a Ponzi scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Uhuh. The you don't know what a Ponzi scheme is, and it's the *facebook* users that are the morons... riiiight.

      The you don't know how to write the English, and he is the morons.... riiight.

    4. Re:Facebook is a Ponzi scheme by jgagnon · · Score: 1, Redundant

      They could easily sustain themselves with targeted advertising. Assuming, of course, they do it right.

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    5. Re:Facebook is a Ponzi scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though sadly he is right, I sure didn't see anything that was Ponzi-esk in that post.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

      A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned.

      Did he say anything about paying investors? No? Didn't think so.

    6. Re:Facebook is a Ponzi scheme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only queers and steers come from Failbook, and the users don't much look like queers to me, so that kinda narrows it down.

  5. Dislike by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can I just have a 'Dislike' button for all of Facebook, please?

    Actually, I think I'll take a 'Tactical Nuclear Strike' button instead, now that I think of it.

    1. Re:Dislike by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's a Safari addon called 'defacer' which removes all Facebook buttons and links from every page that you visit (I've not tried it, I just noticed it the other day). Presumably there are similar things for other browsers...

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    2. Re:Dislike by ciderbrew · · Score: 1

      Yes you can. You can have both of them.
      It will lead you to another bit of malware. Best not click on anything.

      Ever. At all. Never again. version 2.3.this.time.'it's'.personal

    3. Re:Dislike by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, I think I'll take a 'Tactical Nuclear Strike' button instead, now that I think of it.

      Unable to comply. Ghost Academy required.

    4. Re:Dislike by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      I believe the hotkey is "N"

    5. Re:Dislike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, it's a Science Facility with Covert Ops, and a Nuclear Silo attached to your Command Center. ...whaddya mean, "There's a second one."?

    6. Re:Dislike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      broodwar today, broodwar tomorrow, broodwar forever

    7. Re:Dislike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There is another system.

    8. Re:Dislike by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I just have the following AdBlock Plus rules...

      facebook.com$third-party,~domain=fbcdn.net
      fbcdn.net$third-party,~domain=facebook.com

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    9. Re:Dislike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, I hadn't thought of using Ad Block Plus this way. I had been manually toggling the Facebook Javascript using NoScript. One thing, though...I had to change the domain rules from "~domain=fbcdn.net" to "domain=~fbcdn.net". Before making that change, it blocked Facebook content even when visiting facebook.com.

    10. Re:Dislike by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the correction. I had created the filters on my home computer and then tried to re-write them from memory...

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    11. Re:Dislike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read that as:

      There's a Safari addon called 'defecater' which removes all Facebook buttons and links...

      The idea of just taking a big, steamy dump on Facebook makes my inner child ROFL.

      This will probably not get modded past the initial 0 that we ACs get, but I just had to share.

    12. Re:Dislike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just go to the real deal, http://likeorhate.com/

    13. Re:Dislike by xSander · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think I'll take a 'Tactical Nuclear Strike' button instead, now that I think of it.

      And a Tactical Nuclear Pinguin to go along with it?

  6. And? by meisenst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is not new news, really. There is always some scam going around that takes advantage of the inability of most users to distinguish untrusted content from trusted content, not to mention the people who click Yes to every pop-up without understanding what they've just done.

    Facebook is a gold mine for scams like this. There are way too many people using the site that don't care about the dangers. Apathy and ignorance are best ways to spread this kind of thing, and they are found aplenty in any social networking crowd, at least when it comes to the technology behind the social aspect.

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    1. Re:And? by Securityemo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's not that they don't care, it's that they can't percieve what's real content and not - because they don't have a model of the underlying structure beyond the surface of the content.

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    2. Re:And? by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This one gets bonus points for spreading by appealing to the dark side of human nature with their offer of a new and exciting way to threadcrap. As if random popup ads don't snare enough people, now they are out there with an appealing product (at face value anyway) that users have to actively resist. Just when the idea of Facebook itself as a scam was gaining traction, now we have this shit-sandwich-deep-fried-in-vomit craze sweeping the 'tubes. The internet is doomed!

    3. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not new news, really. There is always some scam going around that takes advantage of the inability of

      In comparison to someone winning the world pinball championship, this definitely is news!

    4. Re:And? by vlm · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It's not that they don't care, it's that they can't percieve what's real content and not - because they don't have a model of the underlying structure beyond the surface of the content.

      Disagree with the conclusion in that facebook itself is a filter that only passes non-real content. Its not a lack of underlying structural knowledge or merely being superficial, but herd behavior and poor taste. From the crowd that brought us pet rocks, bell bottom jeans, and beige McMansions.

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    5. Re:And? by Securityemo · · Score: 1

      In this case, specifically:
      What's a browser extension?
      But the button appears inside the facebook page, so it's "on the web page" and not on my computer...
      It's facebooks system, if there's a virus loose in their system it's their problem not mine!
      How can it send spam messages? Can a virus click the "send" button? But I'd notice if my mouse cursor would move, and I turn my computer off at night!
      How can someone possibly make money off stuff that's in the phone book? You're just being hysterical. What do you mean "data mining algorithms"? I'm being ripped off by the dwarven mafia now?
      Etc., I'm sure you can imagine more things along that vein...

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    6. Re:And? by rufty_tufty · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think that's harsh to most users.
      In this day and age we expect to be able to do most things without understanding the fundamentals that they are built on.
      How many people who use a bank/have a mortgage have a degree in economics and accounting?
      How many people who drive a car can strip the engine down to component parts and successfully rebuild it.
      How many software engineers can architect a modern CPU right down to the logic synthesis and asic layout complete with timing closure and dealing with sub micron silicon effects such as crosstalk and antenna diodes.
      You shouldn't need to have the underlying structural knowledge of everything in order to accomplish common everyday tasks. Tools for staying in touch with friends are tools to help a common everyday task.

      As long as facebook aims itself at novices to the web then it should be usable by newbies. Being a clueless novice is not a crime, we've all been there. Facebook is sold to many as one of the reasons to start going on the web, but yet is one of the most dangerous places for new people to play about with,
      I blame those who run facebook not the users.
      So yes I am on facebook because it is a great place to tag photos of people and because almost all my friends are on it so it's a good way keep up with people who you don't see as often as you'd like. I don't think that means that I am about to buy a pet rock because I am on facebook to be tagged in photos, get invited to parties, be reminded of birthdays, and be informed that my old friend from Uni has just had a baby.

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    7. Re:And? by GeckoAddict · · Score: 1

      Well said, and explains the entire reason behind these scams (also pretty much explains every situation in which someone gets taken advantage of in an area they know little about). The real question now is what to do about it.

    8. Re:And? by siddesu · · Score: 1

      And - here's the real moral of the story:

      If your users request a feature often and with a passion, you either give it to them, or someone else does :D

    9. Re:And? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Apathy and ignorance are best ways to spread this kind of thing

      Q: What's the difference between apathy and ignorance?
      A: I don't know and I don't care!

    10. Re:And? by Nethead · · Score: 1

      Hey! Don't be dissin' bell-bottoms!

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    11. Re:And? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      In this day and age we expect to be able to do most things without understanding the fundamentals that they are built on.

      That may be an unrealistic expectation in some ways. I think that people should be expecting to learn the fundamentals of mathematics and physics. They don't need quantum physics at this stage, but it would be nice if they had some idea that objects at motion tend to remain in motion so that they have less chance of driving up one another's arse on the expressway, and so on. People ought to understand the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation so they understand why they need to stay out of the sun at midday :p

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    12. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      "people who click Yes to every pop-up without understanding what they've just done"

      People don't click Yes to every pop-up without reading. They click the left button to every pop-up without reading.

    13. Re:And? by meisenst · · Score: 1

      Sure, I'll agree with you on some of these points, but:

      Your phone rings, you pick up. You hear a momentary "click" as you're transferred to an operator, who tells you that you've just won a trip to Jamaica, and that he needs your credit card information to proceed with awarding you your trip. What do you do? Do you assume that he's legit and dole out your credit card to him, or do you use your brain?

      The same thinking isn't applied to web objects often enough at all. So, Average Joe may not understand the fundamentals upon which a web application is built -- nor should they have to -- but they should certainly understand the fundamentals of human behaviour. If not, clicking on every link and every popup is certain to teach them a thing or two, fairly quickly.

      Also, how is this Facebook's problem? They provide the medium, but they can't be responsible for the message it delivers, or they'd be actively censoring everything everyone does on their site. Have you seen some of the drivel these sites deliver? Can you imagine being one of the operators charged with keeping it all in line? I can't. I'd go mad. Or, rather, I'd go mad if I were policing today's level of FB content -- if FB were censored, I doubt it would ever have become this popular.

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    14. Re:And? by rufty_tufty · · Score: 1

      I think the reason I blame facebook is twofold. First they keep changing things, so it's hard for a newbie to get used to what is a legitimate intrusion because it's out of the ordinary, or just facebook playing with their interface.
      To use your example, imagine day 1 you didn't dial your phone you always asked to speak to the operator. Then day 3 you had to dial the number yourself. Then by day 5 adverts had started to appear whenever you dialled an 0800 number, then by day 6 instead of dialling first then advert, you had to wait for the advert then dial. If someone was used to this before the phone call, then if one day you start to get the situation you describe above I don't think you'd be that surprised by the Jamaica trip...
      Yes I know we'd baulk if the phone service was like this, but that to me begs the question of why we accept it from the web.

      The second beef I have with facebook is their all or nothing security model for applications. If they'd just have even the most basic security layering then I think a lot of these problems would be less worrysome. If you could set your preferences to allow what you allowed application to have access to then I think many of these problems wouldn't be half as bad.
      I suspect the reason they don't do this is because their code base has grown quite spaghetti-like with the evolution path they have had and so it is currently too difficult to do. I can't see any other reason why they wouldn't do it.
      I think however the combination of these two failings of facebook means that the novice user is used to weird stuff changing and asking for things he doesn't understand and there is no way for an experienced friend to lock down the system so it is safe. Where is the facebook equivalent of training wheels or the rifle range?
      I see your point that people should have some basic concepts of common sense, but there's nothing common about it and where are you suggesting these people learn these basic rules?

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    15. Re:And? by rufty_tufty · · Score: 1

      While I agree with everything you say there, I chose my examples very carefully and while my expectation may be slightly unrealistic i think it is a responsibility of engineers (myself included) to aim for that in the things we build. Fundamentally if the average person cannot use a system designed to be used by the average user then I have to blame the designer.
      Take my bank example, many people who were unaware of the finer details of how the finance system works were bit by sub prime mortgages.
      I'm fairly sure on a daily basis car owners are ripped off by those who run car maintenance businesses. Even people who know what they're talking about can be mistaken and mislead by the electronics in modern cars.
      And the less I say about some software engineers and how they abuse, misuse and underutilise the underlying hardware the better.

      I think what I'm getting at is that all this seems very important and obvious to us as geeks, but there are many other things in life that should be obvious and are fundamental to modern life, but that I don't understand. Take the offside rule in football for example, much to the annoyance of my fiancée I haven't a clue about it and she would treat that as something as basic as we treat ionizing radiation. Do I really care? Not really, so I don't bother to fix that missing piece of knowledge. I think the same applies to none geeks and even the more basic parts of online security.
      For me it's been a lesson learned in life that what is important and fundamental to me is not so to everyone and one of the best things to do is accept that and work out how we can make the world a better place knowing that. I would also say that blaming the other person rarely helps, so what can we do as geeks and engineers to improve the situation from our side.

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    16. Re:And? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I think what I'm getting at is that all this seems very important and obvious to us as geeks, but there are many other things in life that should be obvious and are fundamental to modern life, but that I don't understand. Take the offside rule in football for example, much to the annoyance of my fiancée I haven't a clue about it and she would treat that as something as basic as we treat ionizing radiation. Do I really care? Not really, so I don't bother to fix that missing piece of knowledge. I think the same applies to none geeks and even the more basic parts of online security.

      I totally disagree. You only need to know about esoterica of stupid jock sports if you watch them or play them. We all use computers, though, so information security should be important to all of us. We all have to deal with both ionizing and non-ionizing radiation.

      For me it's been a lesson learned in life that what is important and fundamental to me is not so to everyone and one of the best things to do is accept that and work out how we can make the world a better place knowing that. I would also say that blaming the other person rarely helps, so what can we do as geeks and engineers to improve the situation from our side.

      I think the solution comes from both ends. A total dipshit can drive a car around, and in this country, even get a license. But if you take the time to learn some skills you both have a better experience (most drivers can't even apex a fucking turn, they're throwing themselves and their passengers around like bags of flour for no reason) and a safer one for yourself and others around you. I am vastly more skilled than the average driver and yet I don't know shit compared to anyone who's been to a two-day racing school (although life has taught me pretty well to escape from most skids.) Somewhere there is a sweet spot of effort vs. benefit... but most people have been failed by the education system and are nowhere near it in most anything they do.

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    17. Re:And? by rufty_tufty · · Score: 1

      The use of knowing esoterica of sports is that the vast majority of the population does, so it leaves me a bit of a social outcast. That said the vast majority of the population seems to like American Idol and soaps so...

      As for hitting the apex of a corner (Yes I'm going to be modded as offtopic here, but this is a pet thing of mine):
      {puts on IAM motorcycling hat}
      Hitting the apex of a corner is the fastest/lowest G force way of getting around a corner. It is very suited to use on a racetrack but completely unsuited to use on the road. In England here so we drive on LHS of the road, but on a left hand corner you want to be towards the centre of the road to get a better view around the corner. If you apex the turn you have to go slower to give yourself the necessary braking distance for any obstacle that may be around the corner. The same applies to a right hand corner, if you were near the apex there then you're not only losing visibility but you're making yourself very susceptible to people who overshoot the corner, and therefore putting yourself right in their path.
      Now I know this is written from a motorcycle point of view, but the same applies to cars; your speed should be limited not by what your car is capable of, but what you can see and your margins for error (stopping distances, distance between you and opposing traffic etc); apex-ing a turn minimises these...

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    18. Re:And? by drinkypoo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Hitting the apex of a corner is the fastest/lowest G force way of getting around a corner. It is very suited to use on a racetrack but completely unsuited to use on the road.

      Congratulations, you just said something incredibly stupid. If the curve is one sharpness, and I am able to reduce that by apexing the turn, I can either go around it faster, or I can go around it with less lateral Gs. When you apex a turn the same direction as the side on which you drive with a motorcycle, you put your head in my lane. When I apex such a turn, I stay in my lane.

      Apexing doesn't mean going as fast as possible. You have failed your reading comprehension test, and your English test. Also, talking about "right" or "left" hand turns means that you're 100% wrong in countries which drive on the opposite side of the road. Your command of the language is inexcusably poor. This is probably due to your knee, which seems to jerk unnecessarily. I suggest you have that checked out.

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    19. Re:And? by rufty_tufty · · Score: 1

      Dude, chill!

      If the curve is one sharpness, and I am able to reduce that by apexing the turn, I can either go around it faster, or I can go around it with less lateral Gs

      Agreed, the point I failed to make sufficiently was that what also applies to cars is that you should be choosing your road position both for comfort and safety. Part of that is seeing, part of that is being seen. Apexing interferes with both these safety factors both for cars and motorbikes.

      Apexing doesn't mean going as fast as possible.

      Agreed, but most people seek both speed and safety; so I was assuming that you were chasing the maximum speed with a given comfort level - that was certainly the implication I got from your post, because it was about maximising comfort for a given speed. - whereas I was trying to mention that road position could affect safety quite significantly.

      As for your other comments about how I phrased my example, I was trying to give examples that I could directly talk about because I am not 100% certain of how things work in the states having never visited there. It seemed more sensible to state that than to assume everyone reading this would have your frame of reference and instead just state mine.

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    20. Re:And? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      People are in my lane all the time, I have to pay attention whether I apex or not. I drive defensively in two ways, one by staying in my lane and dodging the fuckwads who try to share it when going the opposite direction, and two, by driving a 3475lb sedan (W126... crumple zones plus mass FTW) and a 6600 lb 4x4.

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  7. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -dislike-

  8. I dislike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    everyone of you jerks who beat me to the coveted 'first post'. I dislike you all, a lot.

  9. In other news by should_be_linear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    3295671st variation of "I love you" malware appeared online affecting mostly dumb BFUs.

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  11. It's not a Facebook problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The scam hits Firefox + Facebook users, not Facebook users.

    Nothing will happen if they're using IE, Safari, Chrome or Opera.

    1. Re:It's not a Facebook problem by natehoy · · Score: 5, Informative

      The scam hits everyone who uses Facebook, regardless of your browser, if you fall for it.

      At the END of falling for the scam, after you've coughed up your survey answers and subscribed to the application, you would then be directed to a Firefox plugin (which was not developed by the people who are perpetrating the scam), at which point you could only install the plugin if you have Firefox.

      By then, the scam authors couldn't give a shit whether you can use the plugin. It's not theirs, it's just something they found and used to give their scan a razor-thin veneer of respectability. I won't argue about the utility of the plug-in, because it has nothing to do with the scam.

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  12. How is this new? by shadowrat · · Score: 1

    This is everything on facebook. All the "find out what Brady bunch character you are" polls exist only to gain access to your account. Even farmville is just a clever trick to lire users in with a game. Then it spans you and makes money from offers and by directly asking you for money.

    Hell, even facebook itself is just a moneymaking ruse cleverly designed as a way to keep in touch with friends while it gains all your personal info. .

    1. Re:How is this new? by shadowrat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Man did I get screwed over by iPhone spell replacement.

    2. Re:How is this new? by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Are you saying it made a lire of you, which spanned two sentences? ;)

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  13. Loathing for facebook. by Securityemo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can't really understand the loathing most people here display for facebook. Or rather, I do, but it seems like people loathe the basic idea of a "IRL overlay" social web? As long as you know enough people who use it, it's great for coordinating IRL activities like parties, birthdays, the nicer kind of activism, etc...

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    1. Re:Loathing for facebook. by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Oh.

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    2. Re:Loathing for facebook. by arkane1234 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's great for coordinating IRL activities like parties, birthdays, the nicer kind of activism, etc...

      So was MySpace, your point?
      Most of the hate about Facebook is that they are hypocritical and do not care about the values of humans. They will lie to you to get you to post private data up, make it appear as of your privatizing it, then make it so it's public. They'll also harvest (farm? data mine?) information and sell it.
      Other than that, they're great. Uh huh.

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    3. Re:Loathing for facebook. by painandgreed · · Score: 0, Troll

      can't really understand the loathing most people here display for facebook.

      Well, most /. users simply don't have many friends to communicate with while the ones they do have never invite them to any events and never post on their status updates. Furthermore, their families deny all their attempts to friend them and they are still upset from never hearing back from all the beautiful russian women that friended them on MySpace. The emotional pain associated with Facebook is simply too great for them to deal with.

    4. Re:Loathing for facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except the hate show is rarely about the shitty practices of Facebook, but rather the concept behind it.

    5. Re:Loathing for facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Screw you and your "nicer kind of activism". To the revolution!

  14. The trick is to block every app on facebook. by coryking · · Score: 1

    Make it a game. Every one of those apps (with a few exceptions) are just spam. You can block them by clicking on the "posted by 'stupid app'" then on the apps page click on "block application".

    Word on the street is there exists a firefox addin that does this for you--but I have never bothered to find it.

    1. Re:The trick is to block every app on facebook. by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Make it a game. Every one of those apps (with a few exceptions) are just spam. You can block them by clicking on the "posted by 'stupid app'" then on the apps page click on "block application".

      A couple years ago, I found a list of the most popular facebook apps and ran a script with wgets to block them all for me. My FB account has thousands of blocked apps (and yes, there is a limit in their DB to how many you can block, which is kind of annoying as I've hit that limit).

  15. Facebook by sheehaje · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Facebook is one of the most useful applications ever on the Internet. Love it or hate it, it connects people and their media. It's social networking on a grand scale.

    With that said, to use one of the greatest applications ever, you must compromise your privacy and security. That's how good Facebook is, no matter how bad the bad is, people keep using it.

    I've thought of emptying my profile several times, and just providing a link to a personal web site. I don't want to delete my account totally, there are still people that I want to keep in contact with that aren't really computer savvy, but know how to use Facebook. I also have a MyBand page for, well, my band. Very useful for letting people know when our shows will be, as well as a great way to connect to our fans.

    I have enough experience with computers (30+ years) to know the scams when I see them. I have never gotten malware/spyware from an online social site. The one thing I do give up is a bit of my privacy. Not that I'm too worried about all the boogie men out there (although I will be more fearful when my kids are old enough to be on it). I do however sometimes feel like George Costanza on Seinfeld where his worlds were colliding. I don't always want to mix personal and business lives, but it seems to happen on Facebook.

    I guess for now, I take the bad with the good and vice versa. I'm too lazy to change the world myself, so I'll leave it to the next visionaries to build a better Facebook and one that is just as popular.

    1. Re:Facebook by mujadaddy · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have never gotten malware/spyware from an online social site.

      Yeah, porn is how they got me, too.

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    2. Re:Facebook by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1, Troll

      I have never gotten malware/spyware from an online social site.

      Or so you think. It could be that you have caught one of the ~50% of unknown viruses out there via a mere flash/java exploit... and a good one, you'd never know.

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    3. Re:Facebook by sheehaje · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have never gotten malware/spyware from an online social site.

      Or so you think. It could be that you have caught one of the ~50% of unknown viruses out there via a mere flash/java exploit... and a good one, you'd never know.

      Reminds me of the old adage that if you want computer security, unplug the network cable and disable all removable drives.

    4. Re:Facebook by Timmmm · · Score: 1

      With that said, to use one of the greatest applications ever, you must compromise your privacy and security

      Must? It didn't used to be like this. Back in 2005ish before they added apps, Facebook Connect and so on, it was perfectly secure. In fact, that's why people used it.

      Most people only put their photos and personal details on there because it was impossible for anyone other than your friends to see them. That's more or less still the case, but now any of your friends can fuck up and allow stupid apps access to your stuff.

    5. Re:Facebook by arkane1234 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'll admit it's handy, but the most useful? I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
      It's just a website with people inserting data, and you get to search and read it. There are also "applications" that you can use, but they are basically wastes of time IMHO. In the end, it's a pretty version of MySpace.... only without the hiphop & latino gangsta bullshit.

      There is no "most useful" application ever on the Internet. That term always is subjective, as I consider google mail to be the most useful, with rudder.com being the second most useful for my uses. (financial organization) You may not agree with my decisions, but it has as much credence as your stating that Facebook is one of th emost useful applications ever on the Internet.

      I guess to sum it up, it's not the code that does it, it was simply that it was something people went to as an alternative. Before the mass migration, it was simply because "It's where adults go, it's hosted by a college". It ended up hitting critical mass, and then commercial entities acknowledged it in order to ply their wares.

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    6. Re:Facebook by arkane1234 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nothing's safer than 127.0.0.1 :)

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    7. Re:Facebook by rufty_tufty · · Score: 1

      and then seal it in concrete and bury it at the bottom of the nearest sea.
      Even then...

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  16. Imminent death of the Net predicted! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, noes! Where oh where have I seen that before...?

  17. Scam? I suppose, but... by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    It looks like a regular waste of time (which, by definition, is the point of all facebook activities, right?).

    Now, there may indeed be a more nefarious info-gathering subtext to this, but otherwise it looks like it posts that you like this app (which many do), that you fill out a survey (which is what lots of people do on FB, based on many of my friends' status updates), and it sends you to a FF add-on.

    This sounds like everything else on FaceBook...I'm waiting for the "then is steals your children and sells them into slavery" part that will make us care about it.

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    1. Re:Scam? I suppose, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "then is steals your children and sells them into slavery"

      Silly! Facebook isn't a RELIGION!

    2. Re:Scam? I suppose, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop, where instead of dropping suckers^Wvisitors on a hapless extension, the site could detect the browser, look for exploits to use, then ask to install an extension that wouldn't be so harmless, claiming it is needed to "display the button" client side. Then in comes the botnet code and that computer is now fully compromised.

    3. Re:Scam? I suppose, but... by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that would be true of every single app on Facebook. Making gullible FB users jump though a pay-questionnaire like they were trying to find the unlock key for a movie on usenet is hardly nefarious. I see this as mostly non-news. *shrug*

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  18. I'm too cool for Facebook. by edmicman · · Score: 3, Funny

    oblig. "I'm too cool for Facebook, and anyone who uses it is Teh Stoopid". post. In fact, I'm so indie I only use websites that don't exist yet that no one else uses, either. And I don't communicate with anyone or anything via the Internet, I only passively consume it. Yay!

    1. Re:I'm too cool for Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It it can't be displayed in Lynx I am not interested...

    2. Re:I'm too cool for Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      indie cool people surf spankwall.com

    3. Re:I'm too cool for Facebook. by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      It it can't be displayed in Lynx I am not interested...

      Pfft... newbie wuss. If you were really serious, you'd have demanded it ran on Gopher. :-)

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    4. Re:I'm too cool for Facebook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I only use FTP and Gopher. I don't even have to run a firewall.

  19. Easiest way to black facebook by nephridium · · Score: 3, Informative

    ..or you could simply add "127.0.0.1 facebook.com" to your hosts file - one little tweak, works on every OS, on every browser. The cleanest way for all those who just don't care much for it.

    (Btw if you're using localhost as a webserver it's probably better to use 0.0.0.0 for all you annoyance blocking needs instead)

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    1. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by ekwhite · · Score: 1

      Excellent advice. A little edit with Notepad, and its done. Of course, my Hosts file is over 600 kB...

    2. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by GIL_Dude · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I always see that claim that a hosts file works on every OS and every browser. People always seem to forget that if you are using a proxy server (for example at work), the hosts file is ignored. The proxy server controls what the address is. So the hosts file thing works perfectly (and I use it) at home where I don't have to go through a proxy. But it is useless at work (and yes, there are things I would like to block there too - and random facebook and twitter buttons on pages are indeed some of them).

    3. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You can also just go to a country where facebook is blocked (like China or Pakistan.)

    4. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Spazztastic · · Score: 1

      I always see that claim that a hosts file works on every OS and every browser. People always seem to forget that if you are using a proxy server (for example at work), the hosts file is ignored. The proxy server controls what the address is. So the hosts file thing works perfectly (and I use it) at home where I don't have to go through a proxy. But it is useless at work (and yes, there are things I would like to block there too - and random facebook and twitter buttons on pages are indeed some of them).

      Use NoScript and block Facebook/Twitter.

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    5. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by nephridium · · Score: 1

      You could ask the admins (since those are work computers) to have the proxies block those counter-productive websites for you. Of course this would incur the wrath of a certain (hipster) coworker demographic, but at least you wouldn't need to suffer through those facebook and twitter buttons before your untimely death by high-pitched screaming, keyboard bashing and mouse stoning (I hear Apple mice were specially designed with optimal trajectories in mind ;).

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    6. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      ..or you could simply add "127.0.0.1 facebook.com" to your hosts file - one little tweak, works on every OS, on every browser. The cleanest way for all those who just don't care much for it. (Btw if you're using localhost as a webserver it's probably better to use 0.0.0.0 for all you annoyance blocking needs instead)

      There's some user her that rabidly points out that 0.0.0.0 will always outperform 127.0.0.1 even if you don't have a local web server as it's always not routable, and 2 characters shorter to parse.

    7. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK, is that you?

    8. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With 127.0.0.1 you would have the option to do a neat little trick though: have an http server running that serves a blank page, so those frames with the ugly 404 error pages don't show up, or alternatively show an unobtrusive marker so you can see how well it's working.

    9. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Here’s an even neater trick: Collapse blocked elements.

      Oh wait, that’s AdBlock Plus.

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    10. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is also facebook.net and fbcdn.net

    11. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by MechaStreisand · · Score: 1

      That user is wrong, though, as on FreeBSD at least, 0.0.0.0 goes to the local gateway. So it is not always faster.

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    12. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by silanea · · Score: 1

      No, APK said his one is 14 MB in size.

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    13. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      The user (an AC that tags posts APK) seems to talk mostly in the context of Windows. http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1743902&cid=33147274

    14. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      14 MB is over 600 kB...

      (Seriously, though, thanks for the good laugh. I’d almost forgotten just how much of a moron that guy is. And I KNEW that I’d seen him claiming somewhere that 0 is faster than 0.0.0.0 as an invalid IP in the hosts file.)

    15. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      Thank-you for that. Apparently he's been going for at least a decade.

    16. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      This guy is crazier than I thought. http://www.google.com/search?q=Alexander+Peter+Kowalski

    17. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This probably won’t be the last time you say that.

    18. Re:Easiest way to black facebook by Trinn · · Score: 1

      Great idea - "I don't like this, let's BAN IT" -- somehow I think there's a failure in logic here.

  20. There SHOULD be all kinds of buttons by ionymous · · Score: 1

    I think socially it would make sense to have some more buttons.
    But they should always be anonymous.
    So when someone posts: "I'm washing my car! Isn't water so amazing!"...
    they'll get a variety of feedback like:

    1 friend likes this
    12 friends think this is stupid
    7 friends say "so what?"

    Then maybe people wouldn't post everything that comes to mind. It would be just like in the real world.
    When someone walks blindly into a group of friends and just says, "I'm washing my car! Isn't water so amazing!", it's bizarre.

    1. Re:There SHOULD be all kinds of buttons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think socially it would make sense to have some more buttons.

      Ah, you make the wrong assumption that the average person can handle choice. Depressingly they cannot.

      Too many choices confuse people. Look at all those successful sites like Digg, etc. This is also why major corporations offer so few options: to prevent customers from NOT buying due to an abundance of choices. There are whole books written about this phenomenon.

    2. Re:There SHOULD be all kinds of buttons by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking you're mistaking Facebook with Twitter.

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    3. Re:There SHOULD be all kinds of buttons by ionymous · · Score: 1

      No.. not at all.
      I'm talking about how my "friends" on facebook post statuses that aren't worth posting.
      Maybe all my facebook "friends" are just weird?

    4. Re:There SHOULD be all kinds of buttons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think you just described what 4chan would be like with buttons.

    5. Re:There SHOULD be all kinds of buttons by Aphoxema · · Score: 1

      I think socially it would make sense to have some more buttons.

      Ah, you make the wrong assumption that the average person can handle choice. Depressingly they cannot.

      Too many choices confuse people. Look at all those successful sites like Digg, etc. This is also why major corporations offer so few options: to prevent customers from NOT buying due to an abundance of choices. There are whole books written about this phenomenon.

      Exactly, so they should be left with "I might like this or I might just be hitting the button to show attention to the topic" or "I shall do nothing, either due to my own apathy or I may willingly dislike the post. Yet, I may also like this and am unwilling to express it publicly, or maybe like it but not quite enough to state to my peers that I do."

      See how hard just that is?

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    6. Re:There SHOULD be all kinds of buttons by Aphoxema · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, I think you just described what 4chan would be like with buttons.

      Hmm, if you go in /b/ you'll clearly see they're quite satisfied with artistically rendering their response into the form of an image that captures every poignant detail of their deep, meaningful logic.

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  21. !news by TrisexualPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article isn't really news. It seems that there is *always* something like this happening. Facebook is the perfect place for scams to happen. It's basically the new AOL.

    You have many amateur users who don't understand the first thing about security, and you have millions of them. Millions! Make something that looks slightly "official," and you've got it made. (Remember the old antivirus popups on websites?)

    We basically have a conglomerated database of targets for any exploit in a system that changes its layouts and features so frequently that no one can ever recognize that something looks a little off...

    1. Re:!news by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (Remember the old antivirus popups on websites?)

      Old? Those started becoming popular what? 2-3 years ago? And they are STILL popular, and STILL very nasty.

    2. Re:!news by grumbel · · Score: 1

      You have many amateur users who don't understand the first thing about security, and you have millions of them.

      It is worse then that. Facebook itself actively encourages irresponsible high risk behaviors such has handing out your email password to a third party, thus making the already clueless users even more clueless.

    3. Re:!news by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      I just discovered a new "feature" on Facebook

      - It won't let me friend people that I know from the distant past (like the BBS days). It says "Do you know this user personally? To prevent misuse of Facebook, this request can't be sent." In many cases I can't even send a private message to the person.

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    4. Re:!news by lastmouseontheleft · · Score: 1

      ..that's the first time in fifteen years the words "new" and "AOL" have been used in the same sentence. particularly, right next to each other.

  22. mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  23. The blame here is Facebook's. by DamienNightbane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The bottom line is that this scam wouldn't be possible if Facebook had implemented a real dislike button years ago when people demanded one.

    1. Re:The blame here is Facebook's. by asdf7890 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And if they add that, I'd like a "meh" button too.

    2. Re:The blame here is Facebook's. by jim_v2000 · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't be possible if Facebook hadn't cluttered everything up with stupid apps.

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  24. Is this what the spam looks like? by Pentomino · · Score: 1

    I've been seeing a lot of posts saying "[Name] likes [platitude] on ." from people who would probably never post [platitude]. Things like "Clarence likes “I don't have a temper problem, everyone else needs to stop pissing me off” on ." I'm afraid to click either the platitude or the heart, but I can't really find any evidence about what the hell is going on.

    1. Re:Is this what the spam looks like? by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1

      From what I've gathered, the "heart" website (I already forgot the name) shows user-generated "platitudes" along with a Facebook "like" feature so people can "like" random bad-assy phrases on their Facebook profiles. It doesn't seem malevolent, though I won't vouch for that.

    2. Re:Is this what the spam looks like? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid to click either the platitude or the heart, but I can't really find any evidence about what the hell is going on.

      See that “Like” button underneath the post? Go ahead, click it. It won’t hurt you... honest. (It just perpetuates the spam, is all.)

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  25. This is stupid, Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give us a dislike button already.

  26. Here's the problem... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    FACEBOOK IS A SCAM.

    They exist to derive value from your information. Friends, addresses, posts, even images.

    That the scammers also sell you to other scammers should not be surprising.

    So give Facebook only what you are willing to part with.

    Ok?

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  27. 4chan is not your personal army by Aphoxema · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's "stories" like this that make me wonder if people are trying to use Slashdot to get experienced people to do something about it so they don't have to.

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    1. Re:4chan is not your personal army by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rules 1 and 2, hurr durr

  28. If you lock everything down... by Animats · · Score: 1

    I run Facebook with almost everything turned off. And Flash with almost everything turned off. And Firefox with the privacy settings on high.

    About half of sites with video won't play. Other sites produce errors because their Flash cookies won't work. YouTube's "Press ESC to exit full screen mode" message stays up forever. (I suspect YouTube does that just to keep people from running with high privacy settings.)

    It's interesting to see who's evil, but somewhat annoying. Still, for every site that's blocked, there seems to be a competitor just as good.

  29. "Rogue" facebook application? WTF? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Can somebody explain this? I don't think anybody can integrate any bit of code into Facebook.

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  30. The type of person who falls for this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw one of my facebook friends fall for this. Months ago, I saw the same person show up in my "stalkers" list on OKCupid. OKCupid shows you questions on which you are compatible or not compatible with a fellow user. Here was one of her answers:

    Q: Which is bigger, the earth or the sun?

    A: The Earth. /facepalm

  31. when will they learn by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    Facebook users need to learn no one really cares that much about their lives and what they do from minute to minute, and having 50000 friends online waiting for you to post what you ate last night makes no sense, and that it is time ill spent, so guess what, more people should just walk away, it has its uses, but really , are we all stars? As for the app being thrown in there, too bad there is no real schema in place AI type going through all the posts to see what facebook users are spewing, and if too much is the same (like a spam) it gets analyzed further, and gets stopped much quicker....i could see that.

  32. Some FYI, you are the fool Silanea/AC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Silanea, I read that url and the exchange you had with apk there. You lost it badly. First of all, apk noted that 0 is legal in a hosts files Windows since it pings back as 0.0.0.0 on Windows 2000, Windows XP, and even VISTA prior to 12/09/2008 hotfix patch tuesday by Microsoft and apk did manage to get one of Microsoft's senior managers of their Windows Client Performance Division to admit that apk was correct on a smaller file resulting by using 0 versus 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1 is a faster loading and performing hosts file not only due to smaller filesize results but also because 0 doesn't perform a loopback op as does 127.0.0.1 (the loopback adapter is just a dummy NIC driver filter only if you install it, so SQL Server and the like can install on system minus a NIC is all) also, because since 12/09/2008 Microsoft Patch Tuesday, VISTA cannot and neither can Windows Server 2008 and Windows 7 either. So much for you saying you think apk is a fool silanea, most of all by replying to yourself as an ac poster, because apk used those points on silanea as well as backing quotes from respected sources, and in doing so apk burned your ass badly with the facts he used above and far more silanea. Silanea, you can stop posting as AC to your own posts to try to cover your stupid ass because you lost on all of the points in the exchange link url here on this site when you tried to get the best of apk and lost your ass to him on all of the points above. I can read and saw it in that same exchange and this is my summation of it. If anyone's the fool silanea, it is yourself. Do you think that posting as ac in reply to yourself fooled anyone here you idiot? Guess again.

  33. Microsoft Senior mgt. agrees w/ apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1687452&cid=32587238

    A poster here on /. named Foredecker is that very MS Vice President who agrees with apk though silanea (In fact, Foredecker is Microsoft's very own Senior Exec/VP of the Windows Client Performance Division no less who has a B.S. CSC degree and we know you don't silanea). Foredecker even agreed that apk has a point on his usage of 0 or 0.0.0.0 being faster and more efficient for both size of a hosts file of any size, and also that they do not perform the loopback operation of 127.0.0.1 or the Windows dummy NIC adapter (loopback adapter) either. Foredecker is looking into this for apk because of apk's points on efficiency and speed that existed from Windows 2000 in a service pack for it, through Windows XP, into Windows Server 2003, and even into VISTA when it suddenly stopped working on 12/09/2008 on a Microsoft "Patch Tuesday". APK pointed this out to both S. Sinofsky on msdn and ms technet (he's head of Windows development) and also to Richard Russell of MS (Foredecker's real name). Have you done anything remotely the same and had people of that ilk have to admit that you were correct as apk did silanea? I doubt it.

  34. He's crazy enough for MS to listen though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See here where Foredecker the Senior VP of Windows Client Performance Division has to admit apk was right on HOSTS files:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33349528

    And iirc, Dr. Mark Russinovich has even had his work corrected by APK also in his pagedefrag program (for how to do the job right and also to remove hardcodes from that program http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1235936964, and more on memory mgt in memory compaction which even Linux latest kernel 2.6.35 has added features for because it works for programs like Microsoft Exchange which has issues with memory fragmentation as does firefox even).

    It also appears that and apk's even active lately helping the freeware movement in the 64-bit area in more difficult type applications in defraggers it seems this year in UltraDefrag 64 http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html as well.

    APK, unlike yourself, also has this set of published programs or articles in respected written publications in print and online that he's done since 1995 inclusive of both shareware, freeware, and commercial software to his name that even did well 2 yrs. in a row at Microsoft Tech Ed speak well for he which I just clipped from a post of his that Silanea put up here in this thread discussion:

    "My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    ----

    What do I have to say about that much above? I can't say it any better, than this was stated already (from the greatest book of all time, the "tech manual for life" imo):

    "But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." - Corinthians Chapter 10, Verse 10

    (And, because I got LUCKY to have been exposed to some really GREAT classmates, professors, & colleagues on the job over time as well)

    ====

    Have you done the same or be

  35. Are you high? I use FreeBSD + PCBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That user is wrong, though, as on FreeBSD at least, 0.0.0.0 goes to the local gateway. So it is not always faster. - by MechaStreisand (585905)
    on Monday August 16, @03:03PM (#33266758)

    That is totally misleading bullshit. I know that, because when I setup my wireless RF connection here on PCBSD 8.1 which is a FreeBSD variant with KDE on it I had to manually enter in the local gateway for my connection to even work properly because otherwise it does not, and yes, by default only does BSD put that up as your gateway but what damn good is it? None is the answer because you don't have a working connection that way using 0.0.0.0 as your internet connection's gateway, you idiot. Sometimes I love the morons that post around here like you that try to pass off utter bullshit and misinformation to others, especially the way you have in your doubtless thinking others don't use BSD variants. I do so guess again. You can't pass your crap off as somekind of truth when it's misleading and wrong. I looked into its hosts file and that is not the case for the loopback adapter for starters to localhost. It uses 127.0.0.1 as well, and in case you all don't know this? Microsoft's own IP stack is BSD based also, as are most all others (Linux and MacOS X included for example) being based off the BSD reference design so they're all going to act alike.

  36. He's done for more than a decade though by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33349654 take a read there, after your attempts at libeling this apk ac behind his back here in this statement quoted below alongside others you have made here also like this one quoted below from you:

    Apparently he's been going for at least a decade. - by LinuxIsGarbage (1658307) on Monday August 16, @04:00PM (#33267400)

    Arstechnica and what they have against APK - a history thereof:

    Apparently and rather obviously, you're just another arstechnica idiot who is still smarting from the beating you and yours took from apk who only asked a decade ago whether any of you had done anything of note that others in written respected publications in the area of computers noted as good. Not a single one of you had, and it sent a good deal of you into a frenzy that immature children might have in following apk to other forums like ntcompatible.com, windows it pro magazine forums, majorgeeks.com and 3dfiles.com and others also to harass apk.

    You kept it up then and still do that same now under multiple assumed registered username logons or anonymous coward posts in forums, which only makes it fairly obvious he really got the best of you because you're so obsessed and all it ever gets you and yours is more losses to him every time.

    Jeremy Reimer is the classic case. He's the "self published via lulu" LOSER, lol, that calls himself a "published author". The guys' life is an illusion/fantasy, even his wife is "paid for" and is basically a hooker (a 'dancer' - give us a break, please. That's a stripper and any man knows they are filth) that pays Reimer's way in life because he has no job.

    Jeremy Reimer has no degrees in computers or years to decades of experience professionally coding them or networking them, so he then used 1 so-called programmer, a self-titled one no less with a IS 2 yr. degree only from a southern tech school (worst there are, Greenville SC? LOL) in an obese swine named Jay Little who said he was an "expert on Exchange server".

    Jay Little immediately blew it vs. apk right off the bat because apk showed that memory compacting programs he built or even MS' own clearmem.exe fix stalled exchange servers. Reimer then brought in another "helper", a Jarrett DeAngelis (doctoral candidate from Notre Dame) who in the end agreed with 95% or better of what apk noted which were 15 points and examples showing the usefulness and efficacy of memory compacting programs from sources like Microsoft, ibm, and others of that ilk (respectable and reputable), along with quotes from users too in the same vein. Jay Little then made death threats to apk on his personal website and email harassed apk and stalked apk to ntcompatible.com where he tried to trash apk's posts and again he blew it on nt blue screen dump codes and ramdisks too.

    Reimer who was off topic the entire time because he has no degrees or decades of hands on experience programming or networking even then had to use helpers because he is a fake with no degree or years to decades professional experience hands on in computing and he sti'sll lost his pants to apk. Nobody put out Reimer's plagiarized "articles" anymore, not even arstechnica because of that and the fact he and Jay Little as well as Jarrett DeAngelis (all 3 are from arstech) were caught by their isp's for email harassment of apk, stalking apk online, and for impersonating apk.

    Reimer in particula had the vancouver/bc police (det. felton) called on him for all of this and had parts of his website removed for libel forcefully and also ceased his email harassment of apk also rather quickly after the police contacted he.

    Jay Little of Atlanta Ga. had his entire website removed by CrystalTech for death threats directed apk's way.

    Talk about 'geek angst' and a sick pack of freaks in the arstechnica crowd, and all because apk merely asked what they had done that others noted in publicatio

  37. Arstechnica exposed vs. apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ArsTechnica blocking Adblock?

    https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5266

    However, they could NOT do that to HOSTS files users though! APK likes hosts files as do many 1000's of others online (see mvps.org forums as only 1 small example thereof), and apk exposed arstechnica in their dirty tricks as shown above.

    Due to that? You know know part of why these idiots at arstechnica who stalked apk for years forums to forums online as well as impersonated apk at arstechnica posted their usual crap here on this forums in this exchange => http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33267350 .

    They try to libel, impersonate, threaten and harass, and do worse to apk, and for more than a decade now. That's sick.

    They do so, not only on their arstech forums, but also their own members personal forums (Jeremy Reimer - the self published on lulu fake who calls himself a published author, what a joke, and he's one with no real hands on pro experience in computers and fakes it and with no degrees in the sciences of computing or even certs to his credit. He's a fake that tried to pass himself off as some computer expert and apk exposed him for it, and his wife the stripper gives blowjobs to pay their bills, lol) and made death threats to apk and libeled he only to have the police called on them and their websites removed from their hosting providers and being caught email harassing and online stalking apk by their isp's (Jay Little and Jeremy Reimer both here on this account) and why they posted their utter crap here in this very exchange in that url above. The link below shows even more in addition to apk exposing arstechnica for being charlatans and frauds as well as sickos online.

    Arstechnica doesn't like being exposed for the cowards, fakes, and behind the back operating little cowards they are. Especially in this post here from this very exchange that goes into this even more: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33352200

  38. hosts vs adblock = no contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the ac apk http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1743902&cid=33191488 where he showed the dirty tricks arstechnica played on their own users no less:

    ****

    10 ADVANTAGES OF HOSTS FILES OVER BROWSER ADDONS ALONE, & EVEN DNS SERVERS:

    1.) HOSTS files eat A LOT LESS CPU cycles than browser addons do no less (since browser addons have to parse each HTML page & tag content in them)!

    2.) HOSTS files are also NOT severely LIMITED TO 1 BROWSER FAMILY ONLY... browser addons, are. HOSTS files cover & protect (for security) and speed up (all apps that are webbound) any app you have that goes to the internet (specifically the web).

    3.) HOSTS files allow you to bypass DNS Server requests logs (via hardcoding your favorite sites into them to avoid not only the TIME taken roundtrip to an external DNS server, but also for avoiding those logs OR a DNS server that has been compromised (see Dan Kaminsky online, on that note)).

    4.) HOSTS files will allow you to get to sites you like, via hardcoding your favs into a HOSTS file, FAR faster than DNS servers can by FAR (by saving the roundtrip inquiry time to a DNS server & back to you).

    5.) HOSTS files also allow you to not worry about a DNS server being compromised, or downed (if either occurs, you STILL get to sites you hardcode in a HOSTS file anyhow in EITHER case).

    6.) HOSTS files are EASILY user controlled, updated and obtained (for reliable ones see mvps.org ) & edited too, via texteditors like Windows notepad.exe or Linux nano or kate (etc.)

    7.) HOSTS files aren't as vulnerable to "bugs" either like programs/libs/extensions of that nature are, OR even DNS servers, as they are NOT code, & because of what's next too

    8.) HOSTS files are also EASILY secured well, via write-protection "read-only" attributes set on them, or more radically, via ACL's even.

    9.) HOSTS files are a solution which also globally extends to EVERY WEBBOUND APP YOU HAVE - NOT just a single webbrowser type (e.g. FireFox/Mozilla & its addons exemplify this, such as ADBLOCK) and you already own one, and they run on any OS that uses the BSD reference design IP stack (all of them today pretty much if NOT all of them).

    10.) AND, LASTLY? SINCE MALWARE GENERALLY HAS TO OPERATE ON WHAT YOU YOURSELF CAN DO (running as limited class/least privlege user, hopefully, OR even as ADMIN/ROOT/SUPERUSER)? HOSTS "LOCK IN" malware too, vs. communicating "back to mama" for orders (provided they have name servers + C&C botnet servers listed in them, blocked off in your HOSTS that is) - You might think they use a hardcoded IP, which IS possible, but generally they do not & RECYCLE domain/host names they own, & this? This stops that cold, too! Bonus...

    Still, it's a GOOD idea to layer in the usage of BOTH browser addons for security like adblock, &/or NoScript (especially this one, as it covers what HOSTS files can't in javascript which is the main deliverer of MOST attacks online & SECUNIA.COM can verify this for anyone really by looking @ the past few years of attacks nowadays), for the concept of "layered security".

    ****

    After reading this comment http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33267350 , I had to respond because I was there and saw this and other wrong doings by the arstechnica lusers.

    ArsTechnica blocking Adblock?

    https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5266

    However, they could NOT do that to HOSTS files users though!

    Due to that? You know know part of why these idiots at arstechnica who stalked apk for years forums to forums online as well as impersonated apk at arstechnica posted their usual crap here on this forums in this exchange =>

    1. Re:hosts vs adblock = no contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No contest indeed, moron. Who summoned you?

      Know what Arstechnica could do to serve ads to lusers like you? Put them on their own frigging server. Where is your "Lord of HOSTS" file now?

      You get your ass handed to you every time you try to argue with the people at Arstechnica. Or here. Since 2001. They say insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So who's obsessed?

      APK - The "Ultimate" Collection - mandatory nighttime reading for Ars newbies (or anyone)

  39. Arstechnica, begging for viewers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "No contest indeed, moron. Who summoned you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24, @09:52AM (#33354382)

    Talking behind others' backs, like some beyotch? Yes, that's arstechnica's "specialty". Makes sense - you're all "not men" (the kind of guys whose girl friends we all banged in highschool and we also made you do our homework for us too, lol. You've got NO balls, is why).

    Oh also, get this thru your head, whimp: You don't run me, first of all, and secondly? I came of my own volition, beyotch: Going to stop me???

    New NEWS: On your best day, you aren't capable of that. The best fools like you are capable of are impersonating others, and your own Jeremy Reimer, a "self-published loser" via lulu found out what happened then, now didn't he??

    Sure did, lol, in front of the entire planet at windows it pro mag's forums when he was shown to be nothing more than an off topic fake with no degrees or hands on experience in the computer sciences who libeled and impersonated apk and had his website shredded for it along with his fellow arstech luser, Jay Little.

    ---

    "Know what Arstechnica could do to serve ads to lusers like you? Put them on their own frigging server." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24, @09:52AM (#33354382)

    Good, I love it: Tear up your own bandwidth some more, lol. I loved seeing your "lord & master (bator)" Ken Fisher begging for viewers here BY PULLING DIRTY TRICKS ON HIS OWN VIEWERSHIP https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5266 .

    (Nothing could have made me happier in fact, it was hilarious! Hehehe, arstech's falling apart and we all KNOW it. The more folks block your ads, the slower you die, lol!)

    ---

    "Where is your "Lord of HOSTS" file now?" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24, @09:52AM (#33354382)

    Same place as usual, and doing what it always has: Speeding up and securing my system and those of others (just like the one from mvps.org, etc./et al)...

    ---

    "You get your ass handed to you every time you try to argue with the people at Arstechnica." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24, @09:52AM (#33354382)

    AHEM: The planet saw quite differently at the Windows IT Pro magazine forums where Jay Little fell flat on his fat face on Exchange servers, and Jeremy Reimer had to remain off topic the entire time being caught with his pants down impersonating apk and having to admit it too, lol. Hilarious. Both had their websites removed by their hosting providers also, forcibly, for libeling, impersonating, and threatening apk.

    (So much for your "editing and impersonating apk on your private playpen at ars' forums only. We all know better and we know how you women there operate).

    ---

    "They say insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting different results. So who's obsessed?" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24, @09:52AM (#33354382)

    I must have struck a nerve here saying you always talk behind apk's back, and nothing hurts like the truth, eh?

    (ADDITIONALLY? WELL, IT'S SORT OF Funny BUT... ,B.AREN'T You are the ones talking behind apk's back here and getting bitch slapped by myself as usual though??)

    I mean, lol: LOOK AT YOUR REACTION! HILARIOUS AND PRICELESS. TELLS ME ALL I HAD TO KNOW.

    1. Re:Arstechnica, begging for viewers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ARE apk. We all know it. Drop the charade.

  40. I am the Green Lantern of sector 2814 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You ARE apk. We all know it. Drop the charade." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 24, @02:23PM (#33358838)

    First: Arstech's falling apart and we all KNOW it. Especially now, per Ken Fisher of arstechnica caught PULLING DIRTY TRICKS ON HIS OWN VIEWERSHIP to do so no less and being caught in it red handed here, https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5266 ?

    Leave it to arstechnica to "do themselves in", lol... they'll do so, everytime, be it in blunders in tech debate due to their lack of know-how, or treating users like they don't know anything and they end up "busting themselves" as shown above.

    (Hilarious, utterly hilarious...)

    No amount of "arstechnica off topic 'spin/damage control'" attempts are going to hide what you arstech scumbags try to pull on your own viewers, which is dwindling and getting smaller everyday because of what's shown in the url above, and lmao, I LOVE IT.

    Secondly: Once more, as far as YOU are concerned, per my subject above? Again: I am "the 'Green Lantern of sector 2814'" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTiRnqnvDs&NR=1 ... and as others here noted it is obvious you're just an arstechnica luser.

    Lastly, see above as well as the rest of this exchange which is beyond the control of the arstechnica forums playpen members edits of others' posts or posting as others, because they are known to impersonate apk and others as arstechnica's Jeremy Reimer was caught doing and he admitted to, then as rinse, lather, & repeat because arstech forums stalkers of apk only exemplify the insanity of attempting to attack apk online again and again and expecting different results but with them just failing as usual vs apk, just as they have here behind apk's back as is their "gossiping women of arstechnica style" usual.

  41. Funny how you have to go off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject line, and realize that we know you're just another "technically challenged" arstechnica forums wannabe. We know this because you always have to go off topic vs. apk instead of attacking his technical points he listed in favor of HOSTS files in the post you replied to luser. Ad hominem attacks of arstechnica trolls online and it marks you as lusers.

  42. Funny how you have to go off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny how you have to go off-topic. Where did you explain how your "Lord of HOSTS" file will protect you from Arstechnica's ads if they started serving them from the same host that the rest of their site was hosted on? I'm pretty sure you didn't. Why did you have to go off topic instead of answering my technical point? Your ad hominem attacks show what a moron you are.

    P.S. Why do you post multiple responses to the same post? It implies that your first post was incomplete... but then, you also seem to hate incomplete posts. That appears to be rather disjointed, almost like you are mentally imbalanced.

  43. Disprove apk's list of 10 points on HOSTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject FIRST: Why avoid disproving apk's 10 points in favor of HOSTS files on your part, as well as your repeatedly going off topic here constantly, and your also using illogical effete ad hominem attacks, you ac from arstechnica? We know why, lol... and this from you next? Hilariously dumb of you:

    "Where did you explain how your "Lord of HOSTS" file will protect you from Arstechnica's ads if they started serving them from the same host that the rest of their site was hosted on?" - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 25, @12:37PM (#33370460)

    I already said they'd burn up their own bandwidth serving up their own banners at arstechnica, and funny - why aren't they doing what you said then you "wannabe genius"?

    First, LOL, I will tell you why, beyond the fact they'd scorch their own bandwidth doing so.

    Secondly, I'd like to see any agency OR SPONSOR trust a single website to serve up their ads for them rather than they themselves.

    (They generally won't and don't do that for a couple reasons - to keep view counts/hits of ad banner honest and to make sure the content is current and consistent as THE SPONSOR SEES FIT, not the website showing banners).

    Man, you really do NOT know what the hell you are talking about, do you?

    This next quote from you? truly is hilarious though, because since you called me more names? WELL - That next quote of yours below is yet another ad hominem attack on your part directed my way, yet again instead of you disproving the points of apk's I posted in favor of HOSTS files (thanks for being so easy for me to make a fool out of you by the way with your own continued "arstechnica patented screwups", lol, like earlier and this one below next compounding your errors here yet further):

    "Your ad hominem attacks show what a moron you are." - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 25, @12:37PM (#33370460)

    OMG, LMAO: Calling me names now? Again: That's an ad-hominem attack and invalid in logical debate.

    (You're illogical. I have no respect for those who have no respect for logic. Not only do you toss names now, but you also did earlier as well).

    However, this below next??

    It really "takes the cake" and makes me realize you have roughly the intellect of a carrot (or rather "10 below plantlife" IQ):

    "Why did you have to go off topic instead of answering my technical point? " - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 25, @12:37PM (#33370460)

    Speak for yourself, stay on topic, and I will again ask you the same question I did before, so answer it please instead of trying "reverse psychology" (not) on your part, since you are not a shrink to begin with you're not good at it, get that fact thru your head...

    AGAIN: why did you avoid attacking apk's 10 points in favor of HOSTS files here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946

    (Hmmm?)

    WE KNOW WHY: YOU'RE TOO UNEDUCATED AND UNSKILLED ON THE TOPIC HERE, HOSTS FILES AND THE IP STACK, TO DO SO ON YOUR PART!

    ----

    As to to the rest of your post?

    ---

    1.) Do you have a PHD in Psychiatry?? No??? Didn't think so.

    2.) Have you performed a formal examination of myself in a professional environs???? No.

    3.) Do you have a license to dispense your "prognosis" there, "doctor"????? No.

    ---

    That's libeling myself on your part, as to your comments on my mental state you know, since you lack the credentials and evidences above.

    (Which only further shows you are just another "slashdot sidewalk psychoanalyst wannabe quack" is all. Poor tactics that along with your name tossing and going off topic only show you to be yet another defeated troll on the ropes because of his own mistakes, lol!)

    LMAO - We all know the answer to that last set of

    1. Re:Disprove apk's list of 10 points on HOSTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I already said they'd burn up their own bandwidth serving up their own banners at arstechnica

      FAIL. I said explain how your HOSTS file prevents it. You give some lame-ass excuse that has nothing to do with a HOSTS file or how it would prevent it. In Soviet Russia, off-topic is YOU.

      funny - why aren't they doing what you said then you "wannabe genius"?

      Probably because they’d just ban you instead of trying to circumvent your shitty HOSTS file. Oh wait, they did ban you.

  44. Are you stupid or just illiterate clown? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FAIL. I said explain how your HOSTS file prevents it.

    He answered your points, and the economics of a website getting paid prevents it, and also bandwidth they pay for being burnt up serving ads stops it. He stated it and I will quote it for you below and you said he failed?

    I already said they'd burn up their own bandwidth serving up their own banners at arstechnica, and funny - why aren't they doing what you said then you "wannabe genius"?

    First, LOL, I will tell you why, beyond the fact they'd scorch their own bandwidth doing so.

    Secondly, I'd like to see any agency OR SPONSOR trust a single website to serve up their ads for them rather than they themselves.

    (They generally won't and don't do that for a couple reasons - to keep view counts/hits of ad banner honest and to make sure the content is current and consistent as THE SPONSOR SEES FIT, not the website showing banners).

    Man, you really do NOT know what the hell you are talking about, do you?

    He's correct about you in that last sentence.

    It's you who refused to or are unable to disprove the 10 points he put up in favor of HOSTS files vs. adblock or dns servers also.

    Face it, you lose clown.

    You can also stop posting as ac clown53421 to try to defend yourself here.

    You failed badly and admitted to using ac replies in your other posts and you try to troll others by replying as ac rather than your registered user account. You fool no one.

    Yes, I am also a registered user here who has noted your methods and I am posting as ac to avoid being trolled by the lowly likes of yourself. In order to avoid being trolled by you, I have to use your methods to avoid being trolled by a loser like you.

    1. Re:Are you stupid or just illiterate clown? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He answered your points, and the economics of a website getting paid prevents it, and also bandwidth they pay for being burnt up serving ads stops it. He stated it and I will quote it for you below and you said he failed?

      FAIL. I said explain how your HOSTS file prevents it.

    2. Re:Are you stupid or just illiterate clown? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can also stop posting as ac apk to try to defend yourself here.

      Yes, I am also a registered user here who has noted your methods and I am posting as ac to avoid being trolled by the lowly likes of yourself. In order to avoid being trolled by you, I have to use your methods to avoid being trolled by a loser like you.

      Posting as AC now too? LOL, who are you trying to fool here, noob?? It's not working.