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Girls Bugged Teachers' Staff Room

A pair of enterprising Swedish schoolgirls ended up in court after they were caught bugging their teachers break room. The duo hoped they would hear discussions about upcoming tests and school work, allowing them to get better grades. It worked until one of them decided to brag about it on Facebook, and the authorities were called in. The girls were charged with trespassing and fined 2,000 kronor ($270) each in Stockholm District Court.

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  1. don't.. by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Funny

    strong words in the staff room
    the accusations fly!

    1. Re:don't.. by dr_dank · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those girls will really feel the Sting of their actions once the Police get involved.

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  2. Isn't the first rule of Fight Club... by lorenlal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... never talk about fight club?

    Yet another case of someone not understanding that when you put something up there on the web... Everyone can see it.

    Nothing to see here... move along.

    1. Re:Isn't the first rule of Fight Club... by Mongoose+Disciple · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really, it's just a modern iteration of the idea that if you commit a crime, don't f'ing talk about it!

      People have been boning that one since the Code of Hammurabi.

  3. sold! by toxonix · · Score: 5, Funny

    You had me at "A pair of enterprising Swedish schoolgirls"

    1. Re:sold! by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      He had me at "enterprise."

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  4. Creative Cheating by realsilly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The method was clever, and the girls are smart enough to use bugging technology, but stupid enough to not actually apply their knowledge and learn something. I hope the court system teaches them a lesson that they won't forget, because a slap on the wrist (tiny fine) just isn't going to cut it.

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    1. Re:Creative Cheating by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For all we know they're 13 years old. Is it really worth it to really crack down on them or can we assume that both having to appear in court and the punishment their parents will apply on top of it are enough?

      What do you propose? Hard time? Bigger fines?

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    2. Re:Creative Cheating by Arancaytar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also, stupid enough to go bragging about it on Facebook.

    3. Re:Creative Cheating by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Where's that '-1: WTF' mod when I need it.

    4. Re:Creative Cheating by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hope the court system teaches them a lesson that they won't forget, because a slap on the wrist (tiny fine) just isn't going to cut it.

      Indeed, these swedish girls deserve a spanking!

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    5. Re:Creative Cheating by hoggoth · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Indeed, these swedish girls deserve a spanking!

      I'll be in my bunk.

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    6. Re:Creative Cheating by boristdog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I used to be a high school teacher. You'd be amazed at how stupid the students think you are, and how amazed they are when they find out you have an actual life outside of school.

      Also, they think you can't hear or see 3 feet beyond the teacher's desk.

    7. Re:Creative Cheating by Tukz · · Score: 3, Funny

      What the hell are you talking about?
      Do you not comprehend how currency works, at all?

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    8. Re:Creative Cheating by troll8901 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ... how amazed they are when they find out you have an actual life outside of school.

      And with modern technology, the moment they see you, your precious moments will be recorded, shared and stored for eternity.

    9. Re:Creative Cheating by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The most important rule when you do stupid crap like this is: you shut up about it.

      But I guess that what school is for: they are learning their lesson.. the hard way.

  5. Should this be called facebook-itis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why is it that so many people don't seem to understand the concept of "Things You Don't Discuss In Public" anymore? Do they not think that the world wide web is public? The whole point of Facebook was supposed to be getting in touch with people and communicating with them, yet the way many people carry on, it's like they don't realize the whole world is able to look and see a permanent record of what they're doing.

    The worst part is, this isn't even the stupidest braging I've ever seen done on facebook - one example I've seen was where one idiot was using lawsuits as a harrassment tool against someone they'd had a falling out with, and was constantly bragging on facebook about their next wonderful plan, and how "That idiot will never see this coming! There's no way they'll be ready for it!". Sadly, they had forgotten to un-friend the person they were suing, so their target received a steady stream of updates on what to expect next.

    1. Re:Should this be called facebook-itis? by MarkGriz · · Score: 2, Insightful
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  6. Maybe the case will be dropped? by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ya know..... the same way the case in Pennsylvania was dropped when the teachers were caught spying on the girls' bedrooms.

    Psyche.

    Spying == okay when it's a government employee. Some people are more equal than others.

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    1. Re:Maybe the case will be dropped? by spun · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nice anti government rant. Too bad the facts don't fit. Here's the report from the independent investigation. http://www.lmsd.org/documents/news/100503_ballard_spahr_report.pdf The FBI investigated the case and found there was not enough evidence to convict anyone of criminal charges. Are you claiming the FBI is in cahoots with the Lower Marion School District? Are you honestly saying the FBI will not prosecute low level government employees because the FBI feels it is the right of any government employee to spy on citizens? Put down the Kool-Aid and take off the tinfoil hat.

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    2. Re:Maybe the case will be dropped? by krazytekn0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But it's not trendy on slashdot to be logical about government and police practices!

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    3. Re:Maybe the case will be dropped? by fermion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It is the expectations of kids versus the expectations of adults. Kids, being still developing adult humans, have a hard time seeing beyond themselves. They want to do what they want to do and don't expect consequences. Like when that 19 year old drove off the bridge today. He was probably going too fast and maybe could not take the curve. We cannot sue the engineer because the kid did not expect consequences. Suing a school or an engineer is not going to change behavior.

      The expectation of any teacher in the school environment is lack of privacy. Someone could always be listening, so the issue is not that the girls were bugging the teachers lounge. The issue is that in the real world such an action can get you in real trouble, loss of job, loss of license, etc, so if we are to encourage proper behavior, then consequences need to exist. Not because of harm done, but to encourage children to move away from actions that could be fatal or near fatal alter on.

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    4. Re:Maybe the case will be dropped? by Hizonner · · Score: 2, Informative

      OK, let's just have a look at that report, shall we?

      "Activations" involving photographs on laptops issued to students were grouped into these categories:

      • "Stolen student laptops". AKA "playing cop and spying on people who probably stole laptops". 18,782 photographs, 17,258 screenshots. Probably no legal authority. If you or I had done it: probably given a pass because we were trying to identify a Bad Guy and legitimately had no idea where the machines were... however, it's also probably illegal. There's no legal exemption I know of for peeping to find your stolen property. That's for law enforcement with warrants, not random school officials.

      • "Laptops Not Returned by Students Who Withdrew from School". AKA "playing cop and spying on kids who may have stolen or forgotten to return laptops". 2,366 photographs, 1,332 screenshots. Doesn't say whether they tried, you know, calling the kids on the phone first. Report says "In any event, the wisdom and propriety of activating image tracking in these circumstances are questionable at best." Actual legal justification for doing this: zero. If you or I had done it: criminal charges probable.

      • "Missing Student Laptops". AKA "if we give them the benefit of the doubt, just taking a peek through the webcam and hoping they can recognize where the machine is". 6,693 photographs, 6,693 screenshots. Photographs probably legal if they weren't actually trying to watch any actual person. Screenshots probably wiretapping. If you or I had done it: get a good lawyer, but you might skate by claiming the screenshots were inadvertant..

      • "Image-Tracking of Laptop for Which Insurance Fees Were Unpaid". AKA "total overreaction, spying on a kid to get information about a machine you accidentally handed to him, with no suspicion of any intent to on his part to steal it, no attempt to contact him, and reason to suspect he wouldn't just cooperate with you if you did contact him, plus bonus escalation to an investigation of personal activities (probably sex chat) based on a screen shot.". 210 photographs, many taken after the precise physical location of the laptop was established. If you or I did it: criminal charges probable.

      • "Mistake Activations for Student Laptops". AKA "random incompetence". 6 photographs, 4 screenshots. If you or I had done it: honest mistake, we'd probably be OK.

      • "Activations for Student Laptops for Reasons Unknown". AKA "nobody bothered to say why", 3/10, "nobody bothered to say anything at all", 7/10. 2,507 photographs, 2,212 screenshots. If you or I did it: probably legally OK because burden would be on the prosecution to prove we did it on purpose and for invalid purposes. However, they'd probably have tried to charge us anyhow, given that it involved kids.

      US attorney's decision: "no sufficient evidence of criminal intent"... despite the intentional commission of multiple clearly criminal acts by multiple people working in concert over a long period of time. Chance that you or I would get that kind of consideration for our stupidity or ignorance of the law: approximately zero. Unless we worked for some kind of corporation or other institution with "respectability", in which case the US attorney would similarly serve "justice" by letting us go. It's amazing how much the credibility of the evidence against you varies by who you are.

      Bottom line: these people were let skate because they were "nice" types working for the "good guys" and "just trying to do their jobs". Identical behavior by an average citizen acting alone would probably get criminal charges. Identical behavior by somebody actually "anti-establishment" would probably get hundreds, maybe thousands of counts, plus conspiracy and a whole raft of add-ons, and a serious drive for a conviction... which would probably succeed, because the behavior really is illegal.

      NO, the Feds don't think it's the right of any government employee to spy on citizens. YES, the Feds won't treat your

  7. Scooby Doo by DIplomatic · · Score: 2, Funny

    So Facebook has become a Scooby Doo villain? How many stories have we seen recently that go "Plan X worked perfectly until someone bragged about it / posted pics on Facebook."?

  8. Public Performance by ThatOtherGuy435 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a good thing there wasn't any music being played in the break room, or the local branch of the RIAA would have had them crucified.

  9. Re:Reversed Rolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    How is a young nerd supposed to learn what boobies look like?

    I understand young nerds now have access to this 'webernets' thing, which supposedly has boobie pictures.

    At least, that's what I've been told.

  10. The first rule of spy club by MarkGriz · · Score: 2, Funny

    is dont talk about spy club

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  11. Unfair play by bluhatter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some of you may recall the story about school administrators using laptop cameras to spy on its students ( link to article ). In that case, no charges were could be brought against the school administrators. How is it that students doing the same to their administrators are treated as criminals, then? This world is so confusing.

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    1. Re:Unfair play by krazytekn0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The answer to your question is this really strange and I know, hard to understand, concept of.... Ready... Different countries sometimes don't have all their laws written exactly the same.... I know it's crazy huh? Never would have thought of it.

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  12. Back in my day ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..., the girls slept with teachers to get inside information about exams.

    You kids stay off my lawn!

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  13. Re:Reversed Rolls by hazah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or worse... YOU walk in and recognize that it's HER shoes while SHE's raging on the toilet with PBR beer shits at 150psi.

  14. Re:Back in my day ... by troll8901 · · Score: 5, Funny

    A student comes to a young professor's office hours. She glances down the hall, closes his door, and kneels pleadingly. "I would do anything to pass this exam."

    She leans closer to him, flips back her hair, gazes meaningfully into his eyes. "I mean," she whispers, "I would do anything."

    He returns her gaze. "Anything?"

    "Anything."

    His voice turns to a whisper. "Would you... STUDY??"