9 Ideas For Coping With Space Junk
An anonymous reader writes "The space age has filled Earth's orbit with all manner of space junk, from spent rocket stages to frozen bags of astronaut urine, and the problem keeps getting worse. NASA's orbital debris experts estimate that there are currently about 19,000 pieces of space junk that are larger than 10 centimeters, and about 500,000 slightly smaller objects. Researchers and space companies are plotting ways to clean up the mess, and a new photo gallery from Discover Magazine highlights some of the proposals. They range from the cool & doable, like equipping every satellite with a high-tech kite tail for deployment once the satellite is defunct, to the cool & unlikely, like lasers in space."
That Discover article was pretty hit-or-miss. They nailed the real solution in two of their pieces (tethers and sails), in that the best (easiest, cheapest, only-one-that-will-probably-ever-happen) are technologies that are built into space objects (satellites and boosters) before launch. There's lots of options here from tethers, sails, balloons, or just using existing thrusters. If we can stop leaving big pieces up there (which can run into other big pieces and make LOTS of pieces), the problem will start getting less severe.
On the other hand, on of Discover's pages was about blowing up the debris...this makes sense, until you really think about it. The problem is that when you blow up something, it makes a huge number of new pieces, with all sorts of different velocities and orbits. On average, these pieces will fall to earth more quickly than the unexploded satellite, however, that's just the average. There are many pieces that will stay up there even longer. And when you're talking about things moving that these incredible velocities, it doesn't matter a whole lot if you get hit by a 6,000lb. satellite or a 5lb. piece of a satellite, either one will destroy anything we've put in orbit.
Just send up a guy with a jet pack and a baseball bat...let reentry take care of the rest.
This is the solution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvage_1
This guy built a laser which tracks mosquitoes in a room and zaps them. Surely the technology can be adapted...
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The average junkyard in earth surface using a relatively few square meters have far more junk than that, and we are talking here of something of orders bigger than the entire earth surface, probably in an area of the size of a medium country you get one piece of more than 10 cm. The article puts it as something packed with junk. Ok, they aren't static, they orbit, and usually at big speeds (several times faster than a bullet), and is a problem with only increases with time, is not something to discard too easily, but still the warning seem a bit exaggerated.
Why shouldn't it be hard? Large changes in velocity require large amounts of fuel. Doesn't matter if you are "speeding up" or "slowing down". That's why so many of these ideas involve working out a way for satellites to increase their drag after a time.
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The main obstacles being shark deployment and survivability.
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Hi there! Your post advocates a
( ) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
approach to fighting space junk. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Junkers can easily use it to create more space junk
( ) Space stations and other legitimate space uses would be affected
( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force space dumps
( ) It will stop space junk for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
( ) Users of space will not put up with it
( ) NASA will not put up with it
( ) The space police will not put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from space junkers
( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many space users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Space junkers don't care about other junk in their junk
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for space
( ) Launches in foreign countries
( ) Difficulty of searching for tiny junk in all of space
( ) Asshats
( ) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing investment in space
( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all space junk collection policies
( ) Extreme profitability of space junk
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
( ) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with space junkers
( ) Dishonesty on the part of space junkers themselves
( ) Fuel costs that are unaffected by space junk
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) We should be able to talk about space Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve missles
( ) Countermeasures should not involve more junk
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Sending things to space should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your space garbage company?
( ) Incompatiblity with space licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) I don't want the government cleaning up space
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
wait...
They should just move the Earth from the encircling space junk.
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The same reason you don't carry your car to work to save gas money.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
...that is not how they work.
There are no 669,725 people that are in any more danger than anyone else. There isn't a 1/10,000 chance that it will hit each person, there is a 1/10,000 chance that it will hit any person. In other words, for every ten-thousand pieces of space junk that fall, you might get a single casualty.
If you think these are particularly bad odds, then I have some bad news about your car...
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A simple solution might be to send up a sounding rocket to the altitude where a typical debris cloud is and just release a cloud of nitrogen gas. the cloud will fall soon into the atmosphere, the sounding rocket will too. the debris field will have a short time in a very low density gas cloud, and drop in it's orbit. Normal decay will then reduce the overall problem.
Presumably, the AF knows where the debris is. Look for any clusters. Publish where and when it is going to be taken out. Unless someone objects, with a why, then do it. Probably find out who owns a lot of the back satellites that way.
Begin to get rid of the litter. We won't finish until after we start. Right now, there is no cleanup.
Maybe a first test run, then, when we can predict the outcome, a regular program of removal.
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I expect the frozen bags of urine would be a top selling item. Great idea!
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We don't need new strategies for getting objects down from space. We know how to get them down. When a satellite has outlived its usefulness, you reserve enough fuel so that it can deorbit itself.
The problem is that satellites are expensive and rare still, so we don't want to give them up. So we keep the missions up there for years past their expected lifetime, with the result that they don't have deorbiting fuel left over when they finally break down enough that they're no good to us anymore.
An example: I work with Landsat 5. It was launched in 1982 with a 5 year mission plan. It's still up there, 28 years later, and still a vital piece of the US remote sensing strategy. The next similar satellite won't be launched until 2012. Although it had a deorbiting plan that would have sunk it into the atmosphere a few years after it was decommissioned, that plan was waived. The current plan is to put it into an orbit that will leave it as space debris for 1000 years before it gets low enough to burn in.
If we had funded the satellite program enough, there would have been several follow-on missions and L5 would not still be essential. We would have been able to deorbit it without complaint if there were others that could have taken its role.
Fund space and you won't have space problems. Don't fund it and it'll become a graveyard. Simple as that.
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Apart from the danger of monopoly and people being left outside? Nope
This is blinging
Every bit of trash is in a different orbit. It takes expensive fuel to change orbits. Collecting it all in one place would cost more than simply launching the same amount of stuff from the surface.
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This is the solution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvage_1
Two words...Fly paper.
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I'd say the shipping costs would be quite low, actually. Fast delivery times too. You could place your order, grab a baseball glove, head out to the back yard, and receive your package 5 minutes later.
Cybernetic space sharks would easily take care of the problem of keeping the burgeoning space whale population under control. As we all know, the space whales keep orbital junk under control... wait, I think I'm getting ahead of myself here...
I hear folks on the moon are looking for raw materials. Why not just build a recycling center there? We've already expended energy getting all that stuff out of the gravity well, would make sense to help build up our Lunar presence with no-longer-needed materials hanging around in orbit.