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New German Government ID Hacked By CCC
wiedzmin writes "Public broadcaster ARD's show 'Plusminus' teamed up with the known hacker organization 'Chaos Computer Club' (CCC) to find out how secure the controversial new radio-frequency (RFID) chips were. The report shows how they used the basic new home scanners that will go along with the cards (for use with home computers to process the personal data for official government business) to demonstrate that scammers would have few problems extracting personal information. This includes two fingerprint scans and a new six-digit PIN meant to be used as a digital signature for official government business and beyond." That was quick. Earlier this year, CCC hackers demonstrated vulnerabilities in German airport IDs, too.
Sometimes I wonder why it isn't possible to declare/register a PGP public key as official, and use that to authentify oneself. I mean, with that even email can be secure. Oh well, too complicated for the "general public" I guess, I mean keeping a spare of your (digital) key? That's far too complicated!
No wit here.
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Yes, that is what you think it is: A corrupt translation of a corrupt translation.
1: fix the problems.
2: abandon the plan.
3: arrest the people who embarrassed you, suppress any mention of the incidents.
Hmmm... let's see...
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Sometimes I wonder why it isn't possible to declare/register a PGP public key as official, and use that to authentify oneself. I mean, with that even email can be secure.
An imperfect systems can still be useful. If card/scanner misuse is on the order of handwritten signature misuse then replacing dead trees with some bits might be a good idea in many situations.
The pgp digital sig proves it was sent by your computer perhaps, but not necessarily sent by you. There is a genuine need for biometrics to be involved. Note that a handwritten signature is a form of biometric ID and like the card/scanner system it can be faked. This is why for more important situations a signature must be witnessed and possible notarized. The card/scanner system can similarly escalate the process for more important situation. For example when someone uses a bank's ATM a swipe and a pin are sufficient. When they walk up to a teller for larger transactions then a swipe and a pin could be augmented with a photo being displayed on the teller's screen. Banks often have such photos for embedding into ATM and credit cards.
When the hell are security "professionals" going to wake up and realize that secure access to something requires three items: identification, authentication and authorization. You CANNOT store the authentication credential with the identification. It is 100% stupid to store the pin on the identification device. Authentication credentials and authorization decisions must be kept by, and made by, the service provider. The only item that should be left with the consumer is an identification badge.
For instance, a national "ID Card" is actually a good thing IF the only thing it has stored on it or about it is the owners identification, i.e. name and unique ID number. The ONLY thing the card should provide is a way to contact a national database/server which requires two things, the unique, public ID number from the card and a fingerprint (which is NOT stored or printed on the card in any way). The ONLY information the server should return is "Yes" or "No". But see... the fingerprint cannot be stored on the card in way for the same reason that the pin in the post should never be stored on the card. If somebody other than the legitimate owner comes into possession of the card then he possesses both the identification AND the authentication pieces of the puzzle and can do whatever the legitimate owner was authorized to do.
Security: it's simple. f*cking learn it.
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You're talking about the same government whose politicians during the national election thought a mere DNS-based filter could stop the problem of child pornography on the net.
"Meanwhile on Tuesday the Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) rejected the Plusminus' criticism of the new ID card. The agency's personal identification expert Jens Bender said the card was secure"
It's not secure. They just hacked it without special equipment, they used the scanner that you provide. Saying it's secure in response just means you're
Your ATM card doesn't have your pin on it. Neither does your credit card, or your student ID, employee ID, etc. unless someone really stupid designed the system. How does this get missed? Why are the fingerprint scans on there? Did more than one person look at the plan before they went ahead with it?
This is one of the largest mind-blowingly stupid decisions I've heard lately.
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According to Mythbusters (whatever you think of the show), getting a fingerprint is easy, and the scanners aren't that great at telling fakes from the real. You should watch that episode, it is quite revealing. The expensive scanner was worse than the one build into the laptop.
So, I wouldn't count on that to secure your Laptop/Phone.
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DNA scans take a long time
... it's not the ID card itself they managed to hack, but a basic reader ... ... Now, while the idea might sound good, they decided on giving out the cheapest kind of readers, which are basically JUST readers. They rely on the PC to enter the code for the card. This is where the attack was targeted - using some PC software, they managed to record the information sent to and from the reader. Once you have the code, you could then steal the ID and use it to fake your identity. More expensive readers have displays and keypads that keep all unlocking away from the actual PC, so keyloggers or similar won't be able to steal the code ...
Germany planed on handing out free readers (something like 1 million of them) for the ID cards, enabling people to sign electronic messages and the likes