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New German Government ID Hacked By CCC

wiedzmin writes "Public broadcaster ARD's show 'Plusminus' teamed up with the known hacker organization 'Chaos Computer Club' (CCC) to find out how secure the controversial new radio-frequency (RFID) chips were. The report shows how they used the basic new home scanners that will go along with the cards (for use with home computers to process the personal data for official government business) to demonstrate that scammers would have few problems extracting personal information. This includes two fingerprint scans and a new six-digit PIN meant to be used as a digital signature for official government business and beyond." That was quick. Earlier this year, CCC hackers demonstrated vulnerabilities in German airport IDs, too.

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  1. OpenPGP by axx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sometimes I wonder why it isn't possible to declare/register a PGP public key as official, and use that to authentify oneself. I mean, with that even email can be secure. Oh well, too complicated for the "general public" I guess, I mean keeping a spare of your (digital) key? That's far too complicated!

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    1. Re:OpenPGP by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh well, too complicated for the "general public" I guess, I mean keeping a spare of your (digital) key? That's far too complicated!

      Keeping a copy of your private key *securely*. Yes, it's been amply demonstrated that nothing left under the control of the average user can be counted on to stay secure. And once someone else gets access to your private key, you're royally screwed.

    2. Re:OpenPGP by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, it's been amply demonstrated that nothing left under the control of the average user can be counted on to stay secure.

      It's because the "average user" has a girlfriend who can't keep a damn secret.

      Luckily - we don't have that problem.

    3. Re:OpenPGP by LordKronos · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And once someone else gets access to your private key, you're royally screwed.

      Royally screwed? I thought that's what key revocation was for. With PGP, you just revoke the old, generate a new key, and you are good to go from there on out. But how exactly do you revoke and reissue fingerprints?

  2. three courses of action... by gandhi_2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1: fix the problems.
    2: abandon the plan.
    3: arrest the people who embarrassed you, suppress any mention of the incidents.

    Hmmm... let's see...

  3. Ugh: Identification vs authentication by jwiegley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When the hell are security "professionals" going to wake up and realize that secure access to something requires three items: identification, authentication and authorization. You CANNOT store the authentication credential with the identification. It is 100% stupid to store the pin on the identification device. Authentication credentials and authorization decisions must be kept by, and made by, the service provider. The only item that should be left with the consumer is an identification badge.

    For instance, a national "ID Card" is actually a good thing IF the only thing it has stored on it or about it is the owners identification, i.e. name and unique ID number. The ONLY thing the card should provide is a way to contact a national database/server which requires two things, the unique, public ID number from the card and a fingerprint (which is NOT stored or printed on the card in any way). The ONLY information the server should return is "Yes" or "No". But see... the fingerprint cannot be stored on the card in way for the same reason that the pin in the post should never be stored on the card. If somebody other than the legitimate owner comes into possession of the card then he possesses both the identification AND the authentication pieces of the puzzle and can do whatever the legitimate owner was authorized to do.

    Security: it's simple. f*cking learn it.

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    1. Re:Ugh: Identification vs authentication by wiedzmin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now if only security professionals were involved in making top-level (government) decisions, we'd be set. Unfortunately these are made by sales and marketing people - the solution that gets implemented is the one that 'wins the contract', not the one that works the best... unfortunately security professionals and technical people do not make best salesmen. All too often a contract is won because of a good game of golf, or a sexy slide deck.

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