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The Push For Colbert's "Restoring Truthiness" Rally
jamie writes "A grassroots campaign has begun to get Stephen Colbert to hold a rally on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to counter Glenn Beck's recent 'Restoring Honor' event. The would-be rally has been dubbed 'Restoring Truthiness' and was inspired by a recent post on Reddit, where a young woman wondered if the only way to point out the absurdity of the Tea Party's rally would be if Colbert mirrored it with his own Colbert Nation.'"
It was sad enough to see Beck's shameless self promotion, let alone to now see Colbert's cynical copycatting of shameless self-promotion
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Let me know how it goes...
Oh, poppycock. If you want to see real news, you have to look elsewhere than Fox News. Fox News channel has political commentary masquerading as news, and then they have demagoguery masquerading as political commentary.
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
You sound like one of those jackass right wing nuts, only the polar opposite.
Your argument reminds me of the ridiculous points right wingers make about e.g. gay marriage. "Oh my god, if we allow Gay Marriage the next thing you know people will be marrying elephants and having sex with Emus, is that what you want?! Because that's what's going to happen if we don't stop (queue dramatic music)duh-duh-DUH...the GAY AGENDA!"
You're both ridiculous. Nobody's going to be hunting homeless people or immigrants. Now creationism in school, we need to put a stop to that nonsense, unless it's taught in a philosophy or religious studies class.
Oh, poppycock. If you want to see real news, you have to look elsewhere than Fox News. Fox News channel has political commentary masquerading as news, and then they have demagoguery masquerading as political commentary.
+1 for using poppycock
and +1 for general truth
-- Let us endeavor so to live that when we pass even the undertaker shall be sorry. -- M. Twain
Well, saying Colbert/Stewart use "satire" is like saying some porn fantasy involving Harry Potter and Ron Weaseley you find on the Internet is "literature". If I draw a stick figure in Paint can I go around telling everyone I'm an Artist (pronounced Are-Teest of course)?
Sure... but does it avail anyone to call it such?
And your point is... what exactly?
His shtick is funny and has more truth in it than O'Reilly/GB's festering mouth(s) could ever dream of.
I am Jack's smirking revenge.
That is because Republicans are out doing things. Mainly crazy things that can be made fun of. Democrats are not doing much of anything. Sure they don't get made fun of- but they also aren't doing anything to run the country.
It's easy to get 1M MORE people to stand up for government handouts, affirmative action, race baiting, and pop culture coolness.
THL phish sticks
But seriously, lets not take Beck too seriously.
It's not him you should be worried about. It's his racist, bigoted, narrow-minded, insane followers you should be worried about.
You know, the people who think Obama is both a radical Christian (reverend Wright!!!!) and a radical Muslim. The people who believe all Muslims are terrorists, and who are now setting fires to mosques, or protesting their construction (apparently human rights are only for Good Christians (tm)). The people who believe that the US is now, somehow, descending into hell, and the only solution is to return to some fictitious past that never existed, when men were men, women were women, and everyone feared god and were good and honest and never did anything wrong, ever ever ever, until those damned socialist hippies came in and ruined it all.
Frankly, I'm waiting for the first domestic terrorist attack on a mosque... that should make for an interesting debate, in which I'm sure the radical right-wing hypocrisy will reach levels as yet unseen.
I don't know the term for the opposite of "comedian", "tragedean", maybe? Whatever the term would be, that's Beck. He openly uses lies and manipulative tragedy to get outrage among his followers. He derides everything in sight, with a double helping reserved for anyone who he thinks his followers might agree with him on.
I believe the term you're looking for is "demagogue":
only the lunatic right can rally their idiotic supporters to rally against things that would directly benefit them, such as public healthcare (cut to the elderly lady tea party supporter a few months ago who was campaigning against public healthcare while in the same breath said she had to take on three jobs to pay her sick husband's medical bills). Also, only the lunatic right can convince people that issues such as net neutrality are the EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY REALLY ARE in order to get their idiotic supporters to campaign against them.
in short: a significant percentage of the U.S population is rallying against obama for inane reasons simply because they can't say what their true issue with him is. and their true isue is that THEIR PRESIDENT IS A NIGGER AND THEY CAN'T HANDLE HAVING A NIGGER FOR A PRESIDENT.
Ahh yes, the high culture of roflcat, i can haz cheeseburger, truthiness, and various derivations of movie quotes or song lyrics, etc... I guess any gaggle of Internet retards who can come up with some hilarious picture or saying and riff off of it for long enough is high in "culture".
Ashamedly, I must admit I find the occasional bit of Internet idiocy funny still, but it's getting less and less so as I get older and you just keep seeing the same shit over and over, the same hangers-on latching to something and trying to become pseudo Internet celebrities by propagating it or something like it. I'm only 36, god knows what I'll think of those dipshits when I'm 50.
If that's culture, my balls are monuments and my childhood feces drawings on the wall were art.
Tragedian. The internets agree... Although demagogue or fearmonger or "Certifiable" come to mind too...
There's nothing comedic about it, though. It's the world's most boring inside joke. It's like two people who've known each other for twenty years and have an inside joke about one time when they saw a guy trip over his shoe-laces. They then proceed, 10 years later, to find any reference to "better tie your shoe-laces" hilarious and tell anyone who doesn't laugh that they don't have a sense of humor.
I totally understand the attempted humor. Really I do. It's not exactly rocket surgery. I get it. It's just not funny because it's obvious.
And it would certainly be a leftist love-in rally. That's what makes these people think they're so clever, they're both political and they have these awesome, deep senses of humor.
I mean, doing a rally like Glen Beck, but it's actually (get this!)...MOCKING him and his followers and showing their various foibles! I mean, how original and hilarious would that be! Hey, I mean we could wear like bad fake teeth and confederate shirts, wouldn't that be totally hilarious because we're pointing out what rednecks they are!?
Really... and this is clever?
"I'm waiting for the first domestic terrorist attack on a mosque..."
This is supposed to be like some kind of new thing to be worried about? Something that Beck is bringing in fresh and new? Lets not forget that Lee Harvey Oswald was a raving lunatic LEFTIST, and more recently we have the nut job who took down 32 students at Virginia Tech a few years ago, John Malvo & John Allen Muhammad, the beltway sniper duo, McVeigh & Nicols... so all these are to be blamed on Beck too? Its now like you take Beck out and all these problems are solved. So stop talking nonsense.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
Hey, this would all go away if Beck would simply deny that he raped that young girl.
help me i've cloned myself and can't remember which one I am
No, Colbert viewers are liberals. Liberals think it is someone else's problem to clean up the messes they make.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
The reason liberals don't like Obama is because under his leadership every dollar of public good is bought with two dollars of corporate welfare.
Cf. Health Care Reform
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I suggest you read over your comment again and see if you can spot the hate in your own posts before commenting again. You are making it too easy to show what the problem is.
Here's the wiki: ...
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
Tell you what, sparky. Why don't you go back to the OP's post and tell me:
1) how I misrepresented it
2) how I tried to refute it
I'll even help you out. Here is the OP:
And your point is... what exactly?
His shtick is funny and has more truth in it than O'Reilly/GB's festering mouth(s) could ever dream of.
His argument is that Colbert is funnier and more truthful than O'Reilly or Beck, right? Where did I misrepresent that and attempt to refute the misrepresentation? I mean, aren't those the necessary requirements for a strawman attack?
No, my point was not to refute his argument. My point was show an Ad Hominem attack. See, that's where you insult and/or ridicule your opponent rather than go after his argument. You try to portray them as racists or idiots in an attempt to strip them, and therefor their argument, of any credibility.
Which takes me to my next point, projection. See, that's where you blame others of the crime you are guilty of. Like when you misrepresent someone's argument, claim it's a strawman and then try to shoot it down based on your assumption that your opponent's argument is a strawman. See, that's projection because you are making a strawman argument all while accusing your opponent of doing so.
Without asking for details on why the poster used an adjective that's not a completely factual representation of "some kind of dental infection" you go off about how he/she has committed "what I'd call a hateful attack" and use that logic to condemn a group of people by generalizing a post or posts into a representation of the group which you disparage in a conclusion of "proof that it's not the right that are the "hate mongers", but the left." Finally using the name calling that you are supposedly denouncing.
The OP was an example. Here are some more, all from this thread:
Dude has a history of drug abuse, hell he might be using again. That sort of thing worked for Hitler, meglomania, an echo chamber of your are right and dope.
I think Beck doesn't necessarily believe what he says, but he /does/ believe (not without justification) that his viewers are morons who will believe whatever he tells them, as long as he includes the magic incantation to tell them to do their own research.
It's Nazis all the way down.
Just like Joseph Smith, and countless other charlatans, con-men, and demagogues through the ages.
Yes. Those suffering from narcissistic personality disorder are often able to suck in large numbers of people to their "cause", for a while.
I'm no Glenn Beck fan, he's a delusional religious nut. ...than bigotry, ignorance, self aggrandization, and chalk boards? Yes, yes it is. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.
Teabaggers are unable to detect or comprehend subtlety and nuance.
Strange. I don't see a single argument in the entire thread that extols the virtues of a powerful, federal government. Nowhere do I see anyone even attempt to refute Beck's current rally call of "smaller government".
Nope, it's all about how big of an idiot Beck and his followers are. Other sites stick to how Beck and anyone who opposes President Obama is a
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