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Spammers Attack Apple's Ping Social Network

An anonymous reader writes "Scammers and spammers have deluged the new Ping musical social network, created by Apple and built into the new version of iTunes. Sophos researchers have found that Ping is being overrun by scams and spam messages. 'Apple seems to have anticipated a certain degree of malfeasance, as profile pictures that you upload will not appear until approved by Apple. They are likely filtering for other offensive content as well, so they probably have means in place they could use to stop the spam.' It's ironic that the most common scams on Ping right now revolve around Apple's own iPhone." The Sophos blog post adds that Apple is doing their best to clamp down on the spam, manually deleting many of the offending messages for now. Reader Tootech adds that Facebook integration was quickly disabled, possibly because of blocked API access.

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  1. maybe spamming is a ...... by 3seas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...disease that has not yet been recognized much less treated.

    1. Re:maybe spamming is a ...... by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Informative

      Better the cold, soft lead of a bullet.

      How can this be? Are you going to be inserting the bullet into the spammer manually?

      I'll see your single cold bullet and raise you with a spray of hot lead.

      But since I don't own a gun, I'll have to go to the store and buy a whole mess of fishing sinkers, and melt them on the stove.

      My way, it's only the hope of dying that keeps them alive.

    2. Re:maybe spamming is a ...... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      AC1 Wrote: "...hard steel of a bullet."
      AC2 Wrote: "...soft lead of a bullet."

      With FMJ you can both be right, but wouldn't you prefer the more satisfying hands on approach of an aluminum baseball bat? It has that personal touch that says: "I care."

    3. Re:maybe spamming is a ...... by cawpin · · Score: 2, Informative

      No. A FMJ bullet has a jacket made of COPPER, not steel. No bullet uses a steel jacket as that would wear out a barrel very quickly. Some AP (for Armor Piercing) uses a steel penetrator core, a very small steel shank inside the bullet.

      Also, spamming is like a shotgun, spreading small pellets EVERYWHERE hoping to hit something.

  2. Irony.. by Moridin42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do you know it, mofo? No. You do not. It is not ironic that apple hardware (iphones) is being used to entice people into a scam on apple software. Especially when the software is what you use to keep your iphone up to date.

    Perhaps if they were scamming you into buying music for a zune, we could talk irony.

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    1. Re:Irony.. by Kilrah_il · · Score: 2, Funny

      I agree, it is quite ironic that both are literally a lost cause! Right?

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    2. Re:Irony.. by imamac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oblig xkcd.

  3. Ping? by mangu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is that one of those sites that try to profit from the misspellings?

  4. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The cost of sending mass emails is still so low that even if they get one sucker a week out of millions of messages sent, it is still profitable, and honestly, they probably get more than that.

    Its easy for us to sit back and laugh at these situations, but there are still plenty of people out that who are unaware of what happens out on the wider Internet.

    Its not going to last forever, but it will probably last longer than we would expect.

  5. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by Quarters · · Score: 5, Funny

    I doubt if there is anyone left who thinks that offers of v1gra and riches from Nigerian princes are real opportunities.

    Do you just have a feeling that people stopped being stupid or can you cite a specific date and time you saw the majority of humanity show some shred of intellect over greed?

  6. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by Kilrah_il · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do you say these offers are unreal? I got a this pill by mail and now my erection is never ending (both time-wise and length-wise), which goes well with all the boatloads of money I got from this nice guy in distress who mailed me the other day. If you want more details, contact me at ******** (In order to view the contact information, you are requested to send 100$ to the following bank acco#%$# - *** Transmission Blocked ***.

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  7. What jerks by Posting=!Working · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Steve Jobs complained to me about what he called "onerous terms" that Facebook had demanded for the friends connection "

    I mean, here Apple is, just minding it's own business trying to build an application to replace facebook, and facebook won't give them all their user data for nothing? What jerks. How dare they put restrictions on it like that? Who do they think they are, trying to stay in business after Apple told them it's not their turn anymore?

    I don't see any compelling reason that facebook would ever give their friends lists to Apple. Is there even a theoretical benefit for facebook in doing so?

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    1. Re:What jerks by rjch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Steve Jobs complained to me about what he called "onerous terms" that Facebook had demanded for the friends connection "

      Steve Jobs is hardly in a position to be able to complain about "onerous terms" being placed on people. How many pages is the EULA for that abortion iTunes up to? 103? It's over a hundred...

    2. Re:What jerks by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't see any compelling reason that facebook would ever give their friends lists to Apple. Is there even a theoretical benefit for facebook in doing so?

      They will see the reason once the check arrives to purchase them.

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    3. Re:What jerks by getNewNickName · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Do we even know what type of integration was proposed? I can see a lot of benefit for Facebook to receive additional traffic from iTunes users. I imagine that they wanted a cut from iTunes sales that Apple was not willing to give.

    4. Re:What jerks by vux984 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Try downloading a free app on your iphone. They force an itms EULA on you there too. And yes its over 100 "pages" there.
      100+ pages of eula to obtain a free app is stupid.

  8. Dear Apple: by binaryspiral · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please remove the current iTunes codebase from the life-support you insist on keeping it on. Let the craplication die already, its brain is already dead.

    Rewrite it, buy another developer, or open the damn platform so someone else can do it.

  9. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they didn't turn a profit, they wouldn't be out there.

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  10. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I doubt if there is anyone left who thinks that offers of v1gra .... are real opportunities

    What makes you think they aren't? You realize that a lot of these online pharma stores do in fact sell pharmaceuticals, right? Of course if you buy them you might get dosages too strong, too weak, or sold alongside other things that can kill you, but they do sell Viagra! One reason the "Canadian Pharmacy" is everywhere is because they have built up brand recognition amongst casual/recreational users of ED drugs, so they get repeat custom.

  11. Ah... by game+kid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I see Apple has the machine that goes "spam egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam"!

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  12. Ironic? by dangitman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's ironic that the most common scams on Ping right now revolve around Apple's own iPhone.

    The author might want to look up the definition of irony, because I'm pretty sure this is the opposite.

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  13. Re:Flood ping or ping of death by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Funny

    What is it with Apple and the network stack? First IOS, now Ping. What's next, GPS for the iPhone called Traceroute?

    Nah, it's gonna be their "Geo-Locate Caller" service: TRON.

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  14. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunately yes. There are still morons waiting to be fleeced

  15. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by martyb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they didn't turn a profit, they wouldn't be out there.

    True, but I would argue that it's worse than that; it's a matter of PERCEPTION:

    If they didn't THINK they COULD turn a profit, they wouldn't be out there. Right or wrong, the perceived reward to the perceived risk is such that many continue to attempt it. As you say, some likely do turn a profit. Of those that do not, and close up shop, there are still others who think THEY CAN, and set up shop to start spamming. And so the spamming continues.

    Until such time as those who might spam conclude the potential risk exceeds the potential reward, we will continue to have spammers among us. Technological means can go a long way, yes, but given past experience, there always seems to be yet another new way to bypass these controls. Heck, I was on the internet when the first spam message was posted on usenet and saw the huge reaction. Nothing has yet been able to stop it.

    Yikes! It's worse than I thought! I just looked up spam on wikipedia and discovered this:

    In the late 19th Century Western Union allowed telegraphic messages on its network to be sent to multiple destinations. The first recorded instance of a mass unsolicited commercial telegram is from May 1864. Up until the Great Depression wealthy North American residents would be deluged with nebulous investment offers.

    Alas, human nature being what it is even though the technology may change, I fear that spam will be with us for a long time to come.

  16. A matter of margins by mangu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they didn't turn a profit, they wouldn't be out there.

    True. The problem with digital commerce is that advertising cost is *extremely* low, even more so if they use spambots.

    When your cost is zero, any sale turns a profit.

  17. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In this way, I think that spam filtering has hurt the Internet. People will rely on it over-much -- meaning that something gets past the spam filters, there is possibly a significant subset of the Internet-using population who will assume it's legit. (In this case, significant only needs to be a fraction of a percent for this to be very profitable.)

    That being said, one possibility I've wondered about is that while people are paying spammers to do their thing (thus ensuring the spammers a profit), it may not really have a noticeable effect on the product sales. I could see a rather limitless market of people who tried such services once, realized it was a waste and never tried again.

    I'd love to hear from someone who actual employed such "services" to find out what (if any) difference they made; if they recouped their costs; and if they tracked how many sales came from spam vs other channels.

  18. Apple has problems with an online service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple is having a problem with a new online service? This is inconceivable! Considering the outstanding quality and value that is MobileMe and the unprecedented popularity of iWork.com, I am shocked, shocked, that Apple would have difficulty managing a new online service.

  19. Not just spammers... Imposters too by domulys · · Score: 3, Informative

    As Ben Folds recently discovered, some artists have seen Ping accounts set up -- in their name -- without their knowledge or consent.

    http://twitter.com/BenFolds/status/22830984597
    http://twitter.com/BenFolds/status/22840802922

  20. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by coryking · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Spam filters may have hurt the Internet for the reason you state... But the alternative is wading through an inbox (or webforum, blog, etc) that is 99.999% spam.

    Of the servers I've dealt with, something. Like 98% of the raw smtp traffic was spam. Without spam filters, the Internet would be unusable.

  21. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If they didn't turn a profit, they wouldn't be out there.

    Correction: They want to turn a profit and SPAM is a cheap way to attempt that.

    The difference is that it doesn't matter if anybody buys it or not, the SPAM's already gone out.

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  22. Re:Does spamming still generate real profits? by Patch86 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What else are you going to do with the massive botnet between big decrypt or password cracking jobs?

    It could well be just what they do on idle. If it gets 1 hit in a million, it would still be more profitable than letting your 100 thousand hacked machines sit there doing nothing for hours at a time.