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ACTA Text Leaks; US Caves On ISPs, Seeks Super-DMCA

An anonymous reader writes "Given the history of ACTA leaks, to no one's surprise, the latest version of the draft agreement (PDF) was leaked last night on KEI's website. The new version — which reflects changes made during an intense week of negotiations last month in Washington — shows a draft agreement that is much closer to becoming reality. Perhaps the most important story of the latest draft is how the countries are close to agreement on the Internet enforcement chapter. In the face of opposition, the US has dropped its demands on secondary liability for ISPs but is still holding out hope of establishing a super-DMCA with digital lock rules that go beyond the WIPO Internet treaties and were even rejected by US courts."

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  1. Copyright Law Reform by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We only get once chance to defeat ACTA.

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    1. Re:Copyright Law Reform by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unless we defeat it. Then we'll get another chance, ad infinitum, like one of those timeless creatures of evil that will never truly die.

    2. Re:Copyright Law Reform by phoomp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What is this "chance to defeat ACTA" of which you speak? The process has been specifically designed to keep us excluded it's too far along to change. At this point, the best we can hope for is wisdom from countries that are less concerned about the freedoms of their corporations and more concerned about the freedoms of their citizens.

    3. Re:Copyright Law Reform by Khyber · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "We only get once chance to defeat ACTA."

      No we don't. We have several chances, the most likely one being a full-out armed insurgence against the government.

      Remember Mr Discovery Building and what he said? There will be bloodshed coming very soon.

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  2. Surely not by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

    ACTA Text Leaks

    Surely not. That would be infringing their copyright.

  3. **sigh** by skyride · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The goverment officials dealing with this have absolutely no understanding of how this law will affect the world for generations to come.

    We're getting awfully close to needing the 4th box...

    1. Re:**sigh** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The US isn't the world. China won't give a shit, and they are building the military hardware to allow them to continue not giving a shit for generations to come.

    2. Re:**sigh** by jonwil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The officials dont pay attention even when it IS election time (remember the US mid-term elections are comming up soon).

      Heck, even if GOD himself came down from heaven, stood in front of congress and asked for an end to draconian copyright and IP policies, the congressmen and senators would STILL favor the large briefcases full of money they get from Disney, Fox, Warner, Paramount, Sony, Universal etc.

    3. Re:**sigh** by nabsltd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ACTA isn't JUST about internet filesharing, but also about counterfeint pharmacuticals and other stuff.

      You, sir, are the dream of the ACTA negotiators.

      The whole point of bundling "file sharing" with "counterfeit pharmaceuticals" is so that you can get the same sort of penalties for both. I don't think anyone will disagree that labeling sugar pills as some vital drug is a huge danger, but the way ACTA is written, a generic is also considered "counterfeit". Likewise all the following are treated the same by ACTA:

      • file sharing
      • copying DVDs
      • copying DVDs and selling them
      • creating your own DVD, labeling it as if it were the legitimate DVD and selling it
    4. Re:**sigh** by jambarama · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You've stumbled onto the reason Larry Lessig left copyright reform to study government corruption.

  4. Re:And of course... by v1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not that it's surprising that this happens, but it is a bit surprising that our "diplomats" are allowed to sign agreements that our own court system has already determined to be illegal. Though in this instance it appears they're not just signing off on it, but pushing for it.

    Should try them for treason when they get back stateside ;)

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  5. terrible effects for software patents by ciaran_o_riordan · · Score: 4, Informative

    ACTA has many bad parts, such as entrenching DRM and the deadly effects of pharmaceutical patents, but it also has terrible effects for software patents:

    http://en.swpat.org/wiki/ACTA_and_software_patents

    http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Criminalising_patent_infringement_is_draconian

  6. Re:Time to get encryption working by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Encrypted is not really complicated, use https sites and turn encryption on in your torrent client. Anonymity is hard, really hard. For open P2P networks encryption without anonymity doesn't really help anything, everyone can connect and collect data as a peer. Some of the issues are:

    1. Anything like TOR and Freenet has lots of overhead due to relaying
    2. Latency is also hurt, and it's also dangerous for timing attacks
    3. You can collect statistical data, it's difficult to hide patterns
    4. You can "isolate" nodes and then track all their traffic

    On top of that, you get endless amounts of flak for being a "free haven" for all sorts of $boogeymen. That drives away developers, users, funding, everything. Many people would actually prefer they caught "real" criminals rather than create the true information anarchy. Total anonymity means no consequences, so on top of those you get endless waves of spam and trolls and they can post far more offensive things than they could on slashdot. If someone created it, you would long for the good old days when the worst you could get linked to is the goatse.cx guy.

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  7. Re:YOU VOTED FOR THIS by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why do you blame Democrats for the DMCA? The bill was introduced into the House by a Republican, it faced pretty much zero Republican opposition in the House and had unanimous support in the Senate. Oh and let's not forget that the current head of the RIAA is a former Republican staffer and GOP lobbyist. So exactly why is it the Democrats fault despite the fact that this bill was introduced and had basically universal support from the Republicans in Congress?

  8. Re:Copyrights and patents must be abolished by elucido · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This has to be drilled into everybody's heads.

    Copyrights and patents must be abolished, they are part of the death of economies, just like governments regulations, taxes, subsidies, wars, corporate involvement, corruption, stimulus borrowing/printing/spending and bailouts.

    All of the above things are killing the economies, these things are making industrialized world uncompetitive and jobs are leaving and no amount of cash can be spent to make the industrialized world competitive again ever because the reason cannot be simply removed by spending.

    The reason of the underlying structural breakage of economy is lack of useful production/manufacturing jobs, whose loss has resulted from lack of competitiveness. Competition is the only correct solution to this problem, and copyrights, patents, regulations, wage laws, taxes, subsidies, bailouts, stimulus, wars, corporate corruption are all tied to one main entity: government.

    Government is the ultimate force with the power to compel people to do what they do not want to do, and it does so because it craves power, through people who join the government because they crave power, and for them gov't is the ultimate way to get power and money by sharing with corporate friends.

    Government involvement in economy must be removed completely and that is the only way to remove incentives to corrupt the government, spending all the money in the world on buying the gov't should NOT buy you a free ride and destruction and structural removal of any competition.

    This comment is the actual answer to the question: what the fuck happened to the economy?

    That is unrealistic. Copyright and patents should not be abolished. They just shouldn't last forever. They should last X amount of years that society agrees upon, not an arbitrary number decided by the copyright holders themselves but a number of years decided by that individual culture or that society.

  9. Re:Copyrights and patents must be abolished by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Interesting

    it's called a crisis. In a crisis situation rules change, if they don't then that 'unrealistic' situation will actually meet reality, and reality will win, and there will be no economy left to speak of, while the rest of the world would just completely ignore any position a country, whose economy fell apart takes, and they'd be correct not to care. Losers do not tell winners what to do.

  10. If it's in the treaty it will supersede U.S laws by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the US ...is still holding out hope of establishing...rules that go beyond the WIPO Internet treaties and were even rejected by US courts.

    That would be precisely why the forces of intellectual darkness and their minions within the U.S. government are pushing for this with such rabidity, and in such secrecy. Unless it's flat-out unconstitutional (a much, much narrower standard than simply "illegal"), anything in this treaty will supersede U.S. courts and U.S. law.

    "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little...ah, fuck it. We do the unconstitutional immediately, too."

  11. Re:YOU VOTED FOR THIS by swilver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find this so funny... letting the people just blame one of the two parties in America and bickering about it amongst yourselves seems to me to be the ultimate weapon politicians devised to keep you under their rule.

  12. Re:You can't have it both ways. by Rakarra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Our PRIMARY export right now is "entertainment". The word is placed in quotations, because it is hardly entertaining to anyone with a lick of sense. Only the brainwashed, ignorant masses can actually PAY for the drivel pumped out from Hollywood and the music industries. I might consider paying them to STOP PRODUCING!

    Ah, another snob with poor taste who believes everything everyone else likes is crap, that he's somehow the enlightened one, and wishes with every fiber of his being that everyone else would just WAKE UP.