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Rackspace Shuts Down Quran-Burning Church's Sites
theodp writes "In response to a complaint, Rackspace has shut down the websites of the Dove World Outreach Center, a small 50-member church which has received national and international criticism for a planned book burning of the Quran on the anniversary of the 9-11 attacks. The center 'violated the hate-speech provision of our acceptable-use policy,' explained Rackspace spokesman Dan Goodgame. 'This is not a constitutional issue. This is a contract issue,' said Goodgame, who added he did not know how long it had hosted the church's sites. Not quite the same thing, but would Kurt Westergaard's cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad also violate Rackspace's AUP? How about Christopher Hitchens' Slate articles? Could articles from one-time Rackspace poster child The Onion pass muster?"
The IRA and Abortion Clinic bombers would like a word with you.
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Your moral equivalence bullshit only works amongst the stupid. Where are the Christian terrorists?
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you are intolerant yourself, by extension. there is nothing inside the concept of tolerance that means you have to be tolerant of intolerance. in fact, when you are intolerant of intolerance, by simple logic, you are extending tolerance in this world. this is not a formula for picking and choosing what you want to tolerate or not, as most any act or ideology can be shown to be, through simple logic and reason, either essentially intolerant or tolerant, example:
"i hate black people": essentially intolerant. so if you tolerate someone who says this, you yourself are being intolerant, complicitly, if not implicitly. by condoning and accepting intolerance, you are intolerant by extention
"i punish people who hate black people": essentially tolerant. if your words and actions work against essentially intolerant forces, you are not intolerant, because your words and actions, by nullifying and reducing intolerant forces, extends tolerance in this world
of course, those who are intolerant, when faced with your intolerance of them, will call you a hypocrite on the issue of tolerance. but this accusation is not true, because of simple logic
please note that yes, what i am saying means you do not tolerate a guy burning the koran, but you also do not tolerate some of the edicts of wahhabism and salafism. it is a perversion of enlightenment principles that some people wish to provide safe harbor to ideologies that are genuinely at war with enlightenment principles
there needs to be more backbone in how people interpret enlightenment principles. namely, that there is a limit to what can be tolerated, and you have to actually enforce punishment on those who abridge enlightenment principles. the alternative: tolerance of intolerance, has the real world effect of degradation of enlightenment principles, which will lead the emboldening of intolerant forces. you have to face intolerance head on, you have to nip it in the bud up front. or it will merely grow like a cancer, where your silence is viewed as condoning or acceptance, thereby meaning when you finally do confront intolerance it will be larger and more powerful
you have to face down intolerance, it will not go away on its own, you cannot avoid this conflict. an attempt at avoiding the ugliness of enforcement of enlightenment principles is a self-defeating delaying tactic, to a later day when intolerant forces will only grow larger, growing sustenance and strength and confidence from your weakness and lack of will power to confront them
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We have shied away from attacking superstition because much of the world wasn't grown up enough to handle the debate.
Not true. We've seen the Cross dumped into a jar of urine, and Mother Theresa painted using elephant dung, all in the name of art. Of course, we've also seen Jesus with a talk show and downloading porn on South Park. There is no shortage of art/culture mocking Christianity.
But when it comes it Islam, people become cowards. Take the President talking about the Ground Zero Mosque project:
‘As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country,’ ... ‘That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable.’
But when it comes to a Christian Church staging a protest:
"If he's listening, I hope he understands that what he's proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans that this country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance."
It's not that people are afraid to debate religion. They are afraid of Islam. People talk tough when criticizing groups that believe in turning the other cheek, but are not so enthusiastic when it comes to criticism groups that will try to kill them for it.
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Well they're all full of crap anyways.
The pedophile-worshiping Mohammedians are just more full of crap than most.
Now get rid of all the other god-bothering religious nonsense out there, please. kthxbye.
I think you're going to have a problem getting the Muslims to the party. Christianity says we are to try to help more people become Christians. I'm pretty sure Judaism is the same. I think budists/hindu or more of the mind of let us practice in peace. Athiests and Agnostics just don't want someone's religion forced down their throats.
Muslims however have been told to kill the infidels. It could get bloody.
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Reading a book from cover to cover should be a prerequisite to burning it.
I support the freedom of people to peacefully burn whatever they so choose. However, the idiot pastor in question claims that
"it's full of lies"
With regards to the Quran. However, when pushed further (in the same article, no less), he went on to say
I have no experience with it whatsoever. I only know what the Bible says.
So he claims to know the Quran, then later admits to having never read it. Indeed it probably would do him some good to read the text that he claims to know something about. But we can't stop people from being ignorant of their own choice. Of course, if his knowledge was truly limited only to the Bible, I would love to know how it could tell him that a book published more recently than it could be "full of lies".
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One is a physical act of claiming space and victory. It exists for a long period of time and goes beyond being merely "speech." Painting a rude slogan on the side of the building may be speech; planting a religious center there is not.
The other is a brief act that, once the fire is out, is done. Replace "shitty little book written by a 7th century pedophile" with "flag" and see if the argument against "book burning" changes at all for you. Then think about why. And remember why as disgusting as some of us may find the act, the US has never, ever managed to pass a constitutional amendment to ban the constitutionally protected act of speech that is the burning of a symbol.
Bingo. Depending on how far the pastor wanted to push things, he would have a pretty good chance of winning a lawsuit against them if he can show inaction against other so-called hate speech. An utterly facile term in any case
Rackspace has an acceptable use policy. The Dickhead Outreach Centre knew what it was, and violated it anyway. "Spineless" would have been for Rackspace to ignore the complaints and do nothing.
How is this complicated?
The preacher has called off his plans to burn Qurans on Saturday. Apparently an Imam from Gainesville met with him and talked something regarding a small shred of intelligence into him; they are set to later meet together with the Imam behind the so-called "ground zero mosque project" which apparently the preacher is also upset about.
But for now, the book burning is canceled; at least as an official production of the preacher's church.
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