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Burglary Ring Used Facebook Places To Find Targets

Kilrah_il writes "A burglary ring was caught in Nashua, NH due to the vigilance of an off-duty police officer. The group is credited with 50 acts of burglary, the targets chosen because they posted their absence from home on the Internet. '"Be careful of what you post on these social networking sites," said Capt. Ron Dickerson. "We know for a fact that some of these players, some of these criminals, were looking on these sites and identifying their targets through these social networking sites."' Well, I guess the prophecies came true."

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  1. Nothing new by Dyinobal · · Score: 4, Informative

    There was a group or person that was using twitter, to find targets

    1. Re:Nothing new by mickwd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And Google Street View's a gift for casing the joint - checking houses without burglar alarms, or with old/cheap ones, checking access and escape routes, etc - with no suspicion whatsoever, and no chance of a neighbour being able to remember someone acting a bit strangely a few days before a burglary took place.

    2. Re:Nothing new by zero.kalvin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Obligatory Futurama quote: Professor: Amy, technology isn't intrinsically good or evil. It's how it's used. Like the Death Ray.

    3. Re:Nothing new by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And Google Street View's a gift for casing the joint - checking houses without burglar alarms, or with old/cheap ones

      Yeah because you can totally see a burglar alarm from the street -- with google's resolution you can't even see if they have a sticker in the window.

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    4. Re:Nothing new by MRe_nl · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please stop eating dog food. I think it's affecting your hormonal levels.

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    5. Re:Nothing new by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funeral notices are the classic... what close family members don't go to the funeral?

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    6. Re:Nothing new by syousef · · Score: 4, Funny

      Funeral notices are the classic... what close family members don't go to the funeral?

      Clearly you've never met my family.

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  2. Not Places by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They looked for status messages saying people were on vacation. A bit different from using Places.

  3. Re:Hang on.. by sentientbeing · · Score: 4, Funny

    The burglary ring were captured after being identified using fireworks they had previously stolen from a property. Police were reported to say "We blew open the case after an explosion of similar burglaries. One suspect was let off"

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  4. hmm by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or, alternately, don't add burglars as facebook friends.

    1. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      and mind your privacy settings regarding "Everyone."

  5. story summary is horseshit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...No where in TFA was Facebook Places mentioned, just idiots who announced that they would not be at home. Looks like the submitter has an axe to grind with Places.

  6. Reminds me... by magsol · · Score: 4, Informative

    of this app.

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  7. practicalities by merry-v · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i don't understand how the burglars were able to quickly trawl facebook to find :

    a) the street addresses of the people who were on holiday, not normally stored in facebook?
    b) who did not co-habit with people who were not on holiday
    c) who had stuff worth stealing
    d) living within easy driving distance of the burglar
    e) no alarm, neighborhood watch, alert neighbours etc
    f) the exact days of leaving and arriving back

    burglars already have lots of ways to find a target house without data mining social networking sites, e.g. pushing flyers half-way into letter boxes then coming back in two days to see if any are still untouched, driving buy in the evening to see if lights are off etc etc.

    is it possible that some of those got burgled who had posted about their holiday, and told the police "that must be the reason" ? I know TFA asserts that the police know the gang used facebook, but something does not add up here. seems like BS to me.

    1. Re:practicalities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For the street address, if people use their full name in facebook and list their town, there's a good chance that you can get a correct address from the white pages. As for whether other people will be home, if they say "family vacation", that gives a good probability that every one in the house will be gone. As to the other things you pointed out (alarm, neighborhood watch, whether they have stuff worth stealing), you're correct. They probably have to case the joint in person to get that info. But at least they know they're casing a place that will be vacant on a particular day. Someone might case my house and determine I'm an excellent prospect, but if I don't go on vacation for a year then they haven't got anything.

  8. Paranoid much? by w0mprat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Facebook places is only for iPhone and phones that support W3 geolocation, and only available via native application or touch.facebook.com. You also actually have to explicitly 'check in' / 'check out' of places.

    It amazes the ammount of paranoid people turning it off believing it tracks their location whereever they log into face book. It's not even available worldwide completely.

    From TFFBFAQ: "At this time, the Places application is available to users in the United States with mobile access to the Facebook application for iPhone or touch.facebook.com"

    Even with places turned off, you only need to post "going to fiji for 6 weeks w00t" and everybody knows you're not home. It amazes me the number of people, especially young females who post "I'm home alone tonight and bored" - you can be sure I'm in contact with the really quickly to tell them how dangerous that is and if I they feel unsafe I could .... wait I'm going off topic...

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  9. Silver Lining by causality · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But now, thanks to Places and the idiots that use it, burgling is easier than ever!

    There is a silver lining to that cloud. The more criminals are tempted to go after those who actively make themselves an easy target, the more likely it is that those with a bit of sense will be left alone. This means you now have more control than ever over whether this will happen to you. Choice is good.

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  10. Re:Always change your privacy settings by causality · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So you're trashing something you don't use or understand.

    Actually I don't use it because I understand it. Maybe you don't know this, but you can look before you leap, you can read up on something and learn something about it before deciding whether you will engage in it.

    By your false logic, every non-smoker on the planet was once a smoker since they would never know why tobacco use is detrimental to health until after trying it and experiencing worse health. There's this thing called foresight that makes that unnecessary.

    Incidentally "trashing" is a very strange term to describe calmly and honestly discussing its disadvantages. I think you have a sore point. Apparently the idea that others might have good reasons for not doing something that you have your reasons for doing is inflammatory and offensive to you. Most of the problems in the world are caused by an inability to live and let live, which in turn is rooted in mentalities like yours. You deserve every last bit of misery it causes you.

    Dispute me on that if you think you can, though at this point the prudent thing for you would be to silently disappear and pretend you didn't notice my reply.

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  11. A pretty comprehensive writeup... by Americano · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... from the Nashua Telegraph, the local newspaper for Nashua, NH. It's not yet clear how many of the burglaries were related to Facebook status updates - I've seen some news reports saying "all of them," and a few saying "only one."

    I think this case could be a very good lever for getting Facebook to change default permissions to "friends only" for everything, as most of the stories are suggesting that, where there's a facebook connection, the profiles were set to the default "everybody can ready my stuff" setting.

  12. People just don't think it through by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish I had mod points to mod you up.

    What many people seem to fail to see is that every single datapoint one gives out can be combined with others to often paint a far clearer picture of your life and it's details than one might think. It would actually be fairly trivial to put in a few weeks of work in order to build a list of targets ripe for the picking, if that.

  13. Re:Security through obscurity by Legion303 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Security through obscurity is worthless. I think what you mean is "security WITH obscurity," which is one of the levels of layered security everyone should use.

  14. Typical media hype by Spinland · · Score: 4, Informative

    From another source, they didn't use Places at all.

    "We've been in contact with the Nashua police, and they confirmed that they while they have an ongoing investigation and have already made a number of arrests, the only Facebook link was that one of those arrested had a Facebook friend who posted about leaving town in the near future (which is why they believe that home was targeted) and it had nothing to do with Facebook Places," said a Facebook spokesman in an email interview with Cnet's Caroline McCarthy.

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