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Facebook Competitor Diaspora Revealed

jamie writes "A post has just gone up on Diaspora's blog revealing what the project actually looks like for the first time. While it's not yet ready to be released to the public, the open-source social networking project is giving the world a glimpse of what it looks like today and also releasing the project code, as promised. At first glance, this preview version of Diaspora looks sparse, but clean. Oddly enough, with its big pictures and stream, it doesn't look unlike Apple's new Ping music social network mixed with yes, Facebook."

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  1. Looks great! Maybe I'll download it and start... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, it's written in ruby? Never mind. /starts language war

  2. Presumptuous title much? by koterica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't understand how a piece of unreleased software can be considered a competitor to a service that (claims) to have 500 million active users.

  3. All flash, no substance. by faulteh · · Score: 5, Informative

    I gave the developer preview code a run today, and all my hopes as to what Diaspora could be died. It took too long to produce so little that everyone's outrage at facebook's privacy has been compartmentalized into a hollywood movie on the subject, and thus rendered irrelevant.

    To be a seed you are going to need a hosting provider that supports ruby on rails with a freakishly huge list of gem dependencies, that is also running the thin webserver - that's right it doesn't work on apache (parts of it worked, but most of the ajax stuff didn't because it requires the eventmachine interface). In fact, installing all the dependencies on an ubuntu server running a LAMP stack still required an extra 350+Mb of extra packages as all the ruby and mongodb dependencies, for a so far tiny web application. Talk about bloatware!

    So although it may look good, it's been put together by crApple fanboys, aka morons. WTF were they smoking at burning man to make them think this was worth it? Gimme some of that sh*t!

  4. Re:Software is only part of the equation by The+Solitaire · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's opensource, and (AFAIK) distributed, so no, they really don't.

  5. Re:Software is only part of the equation by Rhaban · · Score: 4, Informative

    The goal is to have a facebook equivalent without a central organization: they do not need a ton of servers because they don't want to host the users data.

    They want each and every user to be responsible for where he wants to host his own data, be it on a home server, on a rented remote server, or via a specialized service provider.

    They want social web to be a bit like e-mail, where no single entity owns the whole system.

  6. privacy by jDeepbeep · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Diaspora allegedly gives one more control over their data, and how it is used, because as we all know, Facebook discussing "privacy" is like McDonald's discussing "nutrition"

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  7. It's the protocols, stupid! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't care at all about the source code being released. Sure, they've released some Ruby code, which you can run, but that's not the important bit. We don't all use SMTP because Sendmail is open source (although that did help adoption), we use it because the protocols are well documented and different implementations can all interoperate. Release the protocol specs as RFCs, merge in feedback, and encourage independent implementations. Until there are two independent implementations, the protocol isn't worth anything.

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    1. Re:It's the protocols, stupid! by InsertWittyNameHere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      sudo mod him up

      If we had a standardized protocol then everyone (Google, MS, Apple, MySpace, Facebook, random company, universities, you, me, etc etc) can integrate the service into existing products or create their own implementation.

      Click here to activate Diaspora on your (Google Me, Apple Ping, MSN/Live/Bing/whatever its called today) account. You won't even have to leave Facebook because if there is a threat of users leaving they will just integrate it.

  8. Re:I dunno, man... by dsavi · · Score: 5, Informative
    Close.

    A diaspora (in Greek, – "a scattering [of seeds]") is the movement or migration of a group of people, such as those sharing a national and/or ethnic identity, away from an established or ancestral homeland. When capitalized, the Diaspora refers to the exile of the Jewish people and Jews living outside ancient or modern day Israel.

    But it is of course capitalized. Kind of.

  9. Re:Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just checked. Richard Stallman doesn't want to be your friend.

  10. Re:I dunno, man... by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Diaspora looks like it's trying to be the next round in the Social Networking Site Cycle, which goes like this:
    1. A social networking site starts up, allowing friends to stay in touch and contact one another, with good privacy rules to prevent bad guys from seeing that info, with maybe a few ads to pay for things but no other payments involved.
    2. The social networking site (which is good at what it does) is successful in attracting new members. Network effects make the member base swell massively, while any competitors become passe.
    3. The founders of the site want to profit from their hard work, so they go public or get VC funding.
    4. The investors attempt to "monetize" the network via advertising, bloatware that people can pay to add on, reducing privacy rules, and so forth.
    5. The social network becomes a slow bloated totally non-private piece of crap.
    6. A couple of developers think "Hey, the dominant social network is a bloated totally non-private piece of crap. We should create something that does this better." And the cycle begins again.

    This has happened at least once already with MySpace, and it's fair to say that Facebook is sitting somewhere around step 5.

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  11. Re:I dunno, man... by AusIV · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what I understand, Diaspora is designed to make this cycle impossible, or at least difficult. Diaspora is designed to be distributed, decentralized, and open source. The different nodes communicate with each other and share information, but I believe if you don't trust the node your account is hosted on you can trivially move to a different one (even one you host yourself).

  12. Re:The network effect by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Traditionally it's said that the value of a network increases as the square of the number of nodes, however this considers only value generated by potential pairwise connections.

    If a social network were geared toward linking groups of three for some maximum objective (business partnerships, sex, friendship, counseling, etc.) then by the same reasoning its value should vary as the cube of the number of nodes, and then this thricebook would kill facebook.

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  13. Re:I dunno, man... by Monchanger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I expect that a significant percentage of Google users don't know where that name came from and wouldn't care to find out, that the minds of Amazon users don't often turn to South America, and Dunkin' Donuts regulars don't often consider actually dunking their doughnuts. Once a word transforms into a brand, we tend to ignore the word.

    Besides the fact that people don't care about words, meanings of words still get twisted and change meaning in the public's mind. Given we're talking about anti-Jewish/Zionist sentiments, I'll point out that many Muslim hardliners frequently misuse the term "holocaust" to define obviously inequivalent events. They have also adopted the word "diaspora" for their own cause.

  14. Re:Another one? by diegocg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course there are open source social networks. I cannot believe you don't know GNU Social!

  15. Re:I dunno, man... by samjam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bah. it's just NNTP all over again

  16. Re:I dunno, man... by indifferent+children · · Score: 4, Funny
    MySpace was mostly popular among young people, particularly teenagers.

    MySpace was mostly popular among blind people. There is no other possible explanation for the "design" of users' pages.

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