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Why Are Terrorists Often Engineers?

An anonymous reader writes "As a follow up to their September 2008 article, IEEE Spectrum revisits the question of why a disproportionate number of terrorists have engineering degrees. According to their own summary of the interview with political scientist Steffen Hertog, 'nearly half of [individuals involved in political violence] with degrees have been engineers,' a rather ambiguous statement especially for a publication targeted at engineers. The interview makes some interesting points (lack of job opportunities for engineers despite a relatively high social status) and some suspect ones (e.g. framing Islamic culture into the western left vs. right politics). Above all, IEEE Spectrum tries really hard to associate engineers with terrorism for some reason."

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  1. Re:Aptitude by Lurker2288 · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I bet he could write a really scary business plan! OOOH!

  2. Just the kind of headlines we need by saisuman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Excellent. I can already see more guys being apprehended for using "white text on black screens."

    1. Re:Just the kind of headlines we need by zill · · Score: 5, Funny

      Death to all infidels who do not use green on black displays! Monochrome CRT Akbar!

    2. Re:Just the kind of headlines we need by couchslug · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Death to all infidels who do not use green on black displays! Monochrome CRT Akbar!"

      If it weren't for the great Text Editor Schism, we'd be doomed.

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  3. Makes sense... by Spazntwich · · Score: 3, Funny

    The only thing a humanities degree will teach you to blow up is your future.

    1. Re:Makes sense... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 4, Funny

      and the only damage you'll cause with a MBA or Economics degree is... oh wait a minute....

  4. Re:Aptitude by Pojut · · Score: 2, Funny

    The bombs dropped on Japan in WWII weren't just the products of scientists, you know...it's hard to build a bomb with a crowbar.

  5. Re:Aptitude by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are millions of engineers in this country that aren't going around blowing stuff up and killing people.

    right. that's management's job.

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  6. Re:Aptitude by east+coast · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just look at Faisal Shazad, the guy from Connecticut who tried to blow up Times Square. He tried to build his bomb with a toy clock and M80 firecrackers. He had a business degree.

    In all fairness, it was a very economical bomb.

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  7. Re:Aptitude by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Funny

    The difference between engineering majors and business majors:

    The part of the flowchart that says "then a miracle occurs" is a joke to engineering majors. For business majors, it's a required step that makes perfect sense.

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  8. Why? by MarkGriz · · Score: 4, Funny

    We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you.

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  9. It's simple, really by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember reading once that men were much less likely to engage in terrorism if they had a wife (or was it a girlfriend -- I'm too lazy to hunt down the reference). The real problem is that engineers can't get laid, so they become terrorists. So, ladies, for the sake of world peace, sleep with an engineer.

    1. Re:It's simple, really by AnonymousClown · · Score: 2, Funny

      My sister, Bertha, is looking for a nice intelligent man. The only requirement is that you can bench press 300lbs - it's for your safety when you have sex with her and she's on top.

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  10. Engineering site sloshdotted? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2, Funny

    Surprised IEEE site is not able to handle the load.

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  11. Re:Aptitude by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet MacGyver could do it with only a crowbar.

  12. Si vis pacem, para bellum by zill · · Score: 3, Funny

    OS wars,
    Distribution wars,
    Browser wars,
    Editor wars.
    Let's face it, regardless whether you choose to engage in radical Islamism, engineering is a violent and dangerous discipline.

  13. Re:Aptitude by msauve · · Score: 1, Funny

    Chuck Norris wouldn't need a crowbar.

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  14. Re:Aptitude by barzok · · Score: 5, Funny

    There have been news articles about terrorist organizations specifically recruiting engineers for their skills so they can build weapons. This is not some coincidence of psychology, it is a fact of necessity.

    I had a bunch of Iranians ask me to build them a nuclear bomb. I gave them a box full of pinball machine parts & kept the Plutonium to use as fuel for my time machine.

  15. IEEE Spectrum's motivation by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Funny

    Above all, IEEE Spectrum tries really hard to associate engineers with terrorism for some reason.

    They're trying to show that engineers can get jobs even in this economy!

  16. Re:Aptitude by HeckRuler · · Score: 3, Funny

    Chuck Norris wouldn't need to build anything to drop on Japan. He'd just jump out a plane.

  17. Those freakin MCSEs by not5150 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always knew Active Directory was part of some global terrorist plot.

  18. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Madame Thérèse Defarge would like to have a word with you. ;)
    She was working on the executioner's to-do list with her knitting.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_Defarge

  19. Consider The Competition by nick_davison · · Score: 3, Funny

    The terrorists have actually recruited exactly the same number of liberal arts students as engineers. But it's only been nine years and the liberal arts students haven't got out of bed yet. They totally intend to attack something and have some really great ideas that'll totally change the neo facist world order but, well, Oprah was on. Plus, do you know how hard it is to hide explosives on your crotch when you're wearing your little sister's skinny jeans!

  20. Pffft... by killmenow · · Score: 2, Funny

    MacGruber could do it with a stick of guBOOOM!!!!!

  21. Re:Aptitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm guessing that your solution to a beehive in your backyard is to run up and kick it.

  22. Re:Aptitude by hedwards · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's probably because the liberal arts degree is arguable the most useful degree of the ones you listed. The other degrees are virtually useless outside the intended field, and with the science degree in particular, even within that field it's very limited.

    The other degrees set you up in a field, the arts degree sets you up to think.

  23. Re:Aptitude by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The limit of an engineering major as GPA approaches 0 is a business major.

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  24. It's the 72 virgins by andy1307 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't it obvious? Engineers can't get laid in this life. They're only chance of getting laid is the 72 virgins.

  25. Re:Aptitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Chuck Norris wouldn't need a plane.

  26. Re:Aptitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Can I give you a little piece of advice? Tape that letter back together. Trust me.

  27. Re:Aptitude by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 1, Funny

    Contrary to common wisdom, the two atomic blasts that rocked Japan in 1945 were not the end result of a concerted effort by the Allies to build an atomic bomb. The first blast was actually Chuck Norris' conception, and the second blast three days later was his birth.

    True story.

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  28. Re:Aptitude by Phoobarnvaz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just look at Faisal Shazad, the guy from Connecticut who tried to blow up Times Square. He tried to build his bomb with a toy clock and M80 firecrackers. He had a business degree.

    As long as he talked to both Bob's and had his TPS reports in order...nothing would have happened to him. On the other hand...if they took his red Swingline stapler...I can understand why he did what he did.

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  29. Be that as it may.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...the REAL reason terrorists tend to be engineers is because we get so damn frustrated with the way people outright REFUSE to give us the level of respect (and wealth) that our superior intelligence warrants.

    You small-minded bastards deserve what you get!

  30. Re:Aptitude by AtariEric · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I were you, I'd make a habit out of wearing a bullet-proof vest. Y'know, just in case they want a refund.

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  31. Re:Aptitude by Facegarden · · Score: 3, Funny

    The difference between engineering majors and business majors:

    The part of the flowchart that says "then a miracle occurs" is a joke to engineering majors. For business majors, it's a required step that makes perfect sense.

    You mean they actually *teach* ????->PROFIT?

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  32. Re:Aptitude by AC-x · · Score: 2, Funny

    "All right, here's your last question. What was the cause of the Civil War?"

    "Actually, there were numerous causes. Aside from the obvious schism between the abolitionists and the anti-abolitionists, there were economic factors, both domestic and inter--"

    "Wait, wait... just say slavery."

  33. Re:Aptitude by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    I call bullshit. If I get stolen from the answer for me is not a bullet to my own fucking head. I am not that weak.

    If I steal your house and throw you out of it into the street, and it's minus 20 outside, then you're dead in minutes.

    But I didn't kill you. No no no. Exposure and/or hypothermia - natural causes.

    Fuck me, I'm almost agreeing with dave420 - and he's a total cunt. Look what you've done. Are you proud? Are you? I'm Waiting. Waiting. Waiting for an answer. Well? ARE YOU PROUD OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE?

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  34. Re:Aptitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yes, unfortunately there's no shortage of people like you inserting yourselves in OUR discipline, blocking OUR career paths.
    You walk in off the street and are hired by people just like you who are already in situ.

    Together with the faceless bean-counters, you make the brainless, short sighted and shallow decisions that make us technical people, (who generate the actual profit to the company), beat our heads against the wall.

    We already know, thankyou, how to "evaluate shades of gray and formulate arguments on subjects that don't have objective right/wrong answers" what - you had to learn that at college!?!? Good god.

    You are that pointy-headed boss.