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Designing Wireless Sensors To Be Dropped Into Volcanoes

Thorfinn.au writes with this quote from El Reg: "Topflight engineers based in Newcastle have hit upon a radical plan for warning of volcanic eruptions. They intend to build a heatproof sensor unit which can be dropped into a volcano's caldera and wirelessly transmit data to monitoring stations despite being possibly immersed in molten rock. 'At the moment we have no way of accurately monitoring the situation inside a volcano and in fact most data collection actually goes on post-eruption. With an estimated 500 million people living in the shadow of a volcano this is clearly not ideal,' explains Dr. Alton Horsfall of Newcastle Uni's Centre for Extreme Environment Technology. 'We still have some way to go but using silicon carbide technology we hope to develop a wireless communication system that could accurately collect and transmit chemical data from the very depths of a volcano.'"

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  1. Why? by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    Have we run out of virgins already?

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    1. Re:Why? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

      On Slashdot?! Certainly you jest.

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    2. Re:Why? by TrisexualPuppy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Forget the virgins. I'm still looking for the unexploded nuclear bombs dropped from the DC-8-like spacecraft.

      I'm sooooo close to OT7, just one more!

  2. Maybe they can find proof of Lord Xenu's crimes by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Finally, Scientology will be vindicated!

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    1. Re:Maybe they can find proof of Lord Xenu's crimes by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 4, Informative

      LOL /came here to make some random Xenu comment //leaving satisfied

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    2. Re:Maybe they can find proof of Lord Xenu's crimes by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I saw the Scientologists at the New York State Fair a few weeks ago. They were offering "free" personality tests and weren't advertising themselves as Scientologists. I figured it out when I saw the stack of Dianetics books behind them. Once I saw that I stood at attention and loudly proclaimed "HAIL LORD XENU!"

      The fuckers have no sense of humor at all. They actually called the damn cops over because of my "harassment". I'm guessing it wasn't the first time they did that because the LEO handled it by pulling me aside and saying "I can't make you leave but could you please leave them alone? I don't want to fill out more paperwork because of them."

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  3. Let's call it... by surmak · · Score: 4, Funny

    volcano information recorder going into netherworld

  4. Next stop: Venus? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Venus, with temperatures hot enough to melt lead, has proven a tough nut to crack for probes hoping to return information about its awesomely hellish surface. But if we're talking about a small probe that can transmit while bobbing around like a cork in a lake of liquid rock... well, mere "lead-melting" heat should be a walk in the park for that little critter.

    Send a craft with a few hundred of these guys in its hold, drop 'em on the surface, and find out what's going on with our evil-twin-sister planet. I especially want to know what's going on with the Venusian highlands, where there seems to be a radar-reflecting "frost" of heavy metals coating the ground. Even if all these probes can tell us is how blisteringly hot it is, that's got to tell us *something* about the environment. Venus sounds like a metal-ore refinery, and I'd love for someone to decide that it's worth a few (hundred) billion bucks to go get some of that Unobtanium (or whatever) and bring it back to Earth.

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  5. Re:Government Conspiracy by Speare · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is just the government trying to "pre-bug" those granite slabs right from the quarry.

    Are you saying the government is taking us for granite? I've been saying that for years.

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  6. Misleading summary by Pinckney · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to Horsfall and his fellow nails-tough tech developers, their carbide electronics can keep working up to temperatures of 900C. This is actually sufficient to withstand immersion in some lavas/magmas, though by no means all. In any case it's difficult to see how any wireless signal could be transmitted through molten minerals, so presumably the inventors are talking more about locating their kit in places within a caldera which - although extremely hot - are not enough so to actually melt rock.

    The caldera is not a synonym for lava puddles. They're talking about putting a sensor in the caldera where it can detect gasses. It's not likely to be floating, much less submerged, and in fact that would presumably interfere with the mission of detecting various gasses.

    (I've only read the article, not the papers)

  7. cooking sensors by trb · · Score: 3, Interesting
    A hacker pal of mine worked at Tektronix in the late 70's, he told me this story. Tektronix made all kinds of oscilloscopes and electronic test gear. Apparently, they had a fancy special-purpose scope (cost maybe $10k/each), that they sold about 20 of each year. Suddenly, one company started ordering 4 or these scopes a month. This was surprising to Tektronix, and they had to change their inventory handling to deal with this change in demand. They decided to call the customer and figure out what they were using all these scopes for.

    Turns out the customer was one of the research labs (LANL or something, I forget which). They were measuring nuclear reactions, and using these scopes because they had a particular kind of sensor, but the tests were destructive, and every time they ran the experiment (once a week), they vaporized a scope. I think they figured out a way to sell the customer the sensor without wrapping it in all the fancy scopey packaging.

  8. Re:I don't think so by jandrese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm more curious how they plan to power such a device, and how they plan to wirelessly transmit signals through molten rock.

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