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ZoneAlarm Employs Scare Tactics Against Its Users

snydeq writes "Check Point Software appears to be ripping a page from the 'scum it claims to fight,' running a scare-tactic warning dialog to frighten users into upgrading to a paid version of the company's ZoneAlarm firewall product. Preying on fears of ZeuS.Zbot, the Check Point warning dialog tells users their PCs 'may be in danger' without having found ZeuS.Zbot, nor having checked to see whether you're running an antivirus product. 'The program doesn't care if you're infected with ZeuS.Zbot, or if you have protection in place. It just wants to sell you an upgrade to the firewall that may or may not detect future ZeuS.Zbot variants' activities — some day.' Check Point's customers have inundated the ZoneAlarm forums with complaints."

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  1. ZoneAlarm still exists? by Khyber · · Score: 5, Informative

    I haven't used that piece of garbage software in about 5 years.

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    1. Re:ZoneAlarm still exists? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes; windows XP SP2 or higher, windows Vista, and Windows 7. All three have a firewall that is more than most users need.

      IF you really need a "little snitch" type of app for windows, you need advanced software. 99% of all users do not need this kind of "firewall" and would be better off with the built in windows one.

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    2. Re:ZoneAlarm still exists? by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      iptables.

  2. Trusted by Psychotria · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, they fooled me at first because I've had ZoneAlarm installed for ages and trusted it. After looking through my running processes, registry, etc, and doing a virus scan I suspected something was dodgy because there was no indication of this zeus trojan. It was then I found the big list of complaints on ZoneAlarm's forums. I was a bit annoyed that they wasted my time. Until yesterday when this showed up I had no reason no to trust what ZoneAlarm was telling me. Now, I am not so sure.

    1. Re:Trusted by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ....Because many viruses will try to open up ports so they can send spam, etc.

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  3. ZoneAlarm was backdoored, right? by equex · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought ZoneAlarm got outed for essentially being a backdoor some years ago ? I stopped using it then and never looked back.

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  4. Backfire after management change by flydpnkrtn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a poster indicates, ZA was bought out by CheckPoint a few months ago. This scare tactic will probably backfire on them...

    Why in the hell did someone at CheckPoint say to themselves "Wait a second... Gestapo style marketing that looks like a phishing scam sounds like a great idea!"

  5. Summary is correct by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summary is spot on. I haven't been a Windows user for a number of years, but a friend asked me to fix her malware problem and I reinstalled her Windows XP box. For the firewall, I remembered ZoneAlarm from a few years ago and installed it. After the first reboot, some stupid popup appeared, prompting me to "like" the software on Facebook. I'm like WTF? But still gave them the benefit of the doubt. Next reboot it comes up with the totally bogus popup that I may get infected with Zeus. I had to reread it twice to find out it really was an advertisement.

    I downloaded Comodo, unplugged the network, uninstalled ZoneAlarm, installed Comodo and plugged back into the inter webs. Never looked back.

    I probably will not buy any Check Point software for my business either.

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  6. Whats ZoneAlarm? by NevarMore · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is it like a frontend for iptables?

    1. Re:Whats ZoneAlarm? by master0ne · · Score: 4, Informative

      It used to be a sophisticated light weight feature rich firewall for windows.... it allowed rules and whatnot.... now... its a bloated flaming pile of sh*t sinking with a horrible company that deserves to be put out of business for its questionable marketing practices and horrible customer support.

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  7. ZoneAlarm users get what they deserve by realmolo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously. What morons are using ZoneAlarm? WHY would you use it, when Windows has had a better firewall since XP, and the Vista/Windows 7 firewall is even better than that?

    ZoneAlarm has always been a piece-of-shit.

    1. Re:ZoneAlarm users get what they deserve by mysidia · · Score: 4, Informative

      Linux 2.2 wasn't released until 1999. 12 years ago, we were using a tool you probably never heard of called ipfwadm, and before that ipfw

      Linux's firewalling capabilities have always been miles ahead of Windows' built-in firewall capabilities in terms of being functional, flexible, and easier to get to do what you want for the power user.

      Windows, ZA, Comodo used to be ahead in terms of usability for the average user.

      Linux firewalling capabilities improved a bit over time, they became more powerful and more user friendly (at least for the Linux admin), more capabilities were introduced in the form of modules.

      However, Linux firewalling didn't change much --- it's pretty hard for something that is already nearly perfect to evolve.

      On the other hand Windows had and still has a lot of ground to cover in regards to improving the firewall.

      It is more cumbersome than ever to add firewall rules or exceptions to the Windows firewall. No simple text-based language. No built in rapid CLI-based addition method (have to resort to still a cumbersome GUI to do it).

  8. Zounds! ZoneAlarm zealous about Zeus.Zbot? by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whatever happened to alliteration in article titles?

  9. List of free Windows firewalls by Aryeh+Goretsky · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hello,

    Below is a list of free application software firewalls I put together a while ago. Not sure if they are all current, and I am probably missing quite a few, but it is a starting point.

    Firewalls
    Active Network - Active Wall Free Edition
    Agnitum - Outpost Firewall Free
    AS3 Soft4U - AS3 Personal Firewall
    Ashampoo - Ashampoo Firewall Free
    Comodo Group - Comodo Firewall (now a part of Comodo Internet Security)
    FilSecLab - Filseclab Personal Firewall Professional Edition
    Group 4 Business Intelligence - IDNWebShield (main web site down when last checked)
    NetVeda - NetVeda SafetyNet
    PC Tools - PC Tools Firewall Plus Free Edition
    PrivacyWare - Privatefirewall
    SecurePoint - Securepoint Personal Firewall & VPN Client - (discontinued?)
    SoftPerfect - SoftPerfect Personal Firewall
    Tall Emu - Online Armor Free - (acquired by EmsiSoft?)
    WIPFW Project - WIPFW - (port of BSD IPFW)

    Firewall Managers
    GT Delphi Components - Windows Firewall Ports & Applications Manager (WFWPAM)
    Sheesley, Eric - XPFiremon

    Hopefully, this is of help.

    Regards,

    Aryeh Goretsky

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