Ex-HP CEO Hurd Pays $14 Million Oracle Pledge Fee

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Ex-HP CEO Hurd Pays $14 Million Oracle Pledge Fee

Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday September 21, 2010 @12:13AM from the money-is-a-great-ambassador dept.

theodp writes "Valleywag reports that ousted HP CEO Mark Hurd is paying dearly to roll with Oracle, giving up millions of dollars to settle the HP lawsuit that threatened to prevent him from working at his new job. Hurd will forfeit about 345,000 restricted HP shares that he was given as part of his HP exit package, which had a market value of $13.6 million. In addition to announcing the truce against the backdrop of Oracle's OpenWorld conference, HP and Oracle also reaffirmed their vows to each other."

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Re-affirm their vows? by iONiUM · 2010-09-21 00:19 · Score: 1

Really? Are they uh.. well I didn't know, that they were so close. Married, as it were. I guess when two companies love each other..
1. Re:Re-affirm their vows? by Chrisq · 2010-09-21 00:40 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Really? Are they uh.. well I didn't know, that they were so close. Married, as it were. I guess when two companies love each other..
  It got to me an ugly threesome when Oracle took Sun into the family home though. HP was no longer the manufacturer of the prestige exadata server.
What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by bogaboga · 2010-09-21 00:19 · Score: 4, Insightful

I have always wondered what I could do with just $1,000,000. When I hear folks making millions per year, I rethink my strategy to enable me make just a million.
It has never worked! But I am not down yet. The trouble is I am closely getting to my fifties with almost no hope in sight and my mortgage still has 21 years left on it.
My investments need lots of prayer and luck. It looks like I might end up a 'dirty' old retiree. People like this man Hurd should be thankful to God for enabling the possibility for making millions come to light.
1. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by McGiraf · 2010-09-21 00:22 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  God did not gave him a dime.
2. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by bogaboga · 2010-09-21 00:36 · Score: 0, Flamebait
  
  Hey...who said God gave him a dime? God just 'enabled the possibility for him to make the millions...'. Read my submission. It is still up to him to make the money.
3. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Nursie · 2010-09-21 00:44 · Score: 1
  
  Seriously. I mean, how do you get to the mental state that you give up 14 million in order to get into another job?
  Regardless of the rest of the settlement or even the rest of his money, 14 mil would have me sizing up early retirement.
4. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Mikkeles · 2010-09-21 00:50 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  'Regardless of the rest of the settlement or even the rest of his money, 14 mil would have me sizing up early retirement.'
  And that's why you don't have 14 mil! ;^) You'd probably rather enjoy life in your own way (and have other interests) than only work at a job.
  
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  Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
5. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 00:51 · Score: 0
  
  So God is on the board of these companies? Wow. Whodathunk? The next board meetings, the law should wait for him to arrive to serve subpoenas.
  http://www.uspressnews.com/articles/1110
6. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by grub · 2010-09-21 00:52 · Score: 1
  
  Don't think that his pal Ellison isn't making it up to him.
  
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7. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by dunezone · 2010-09-21 00:53 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  People like this man Hurd should be thankful to God for enabling the possibility for making millions come to light.
  The money is not what drives Hurd. At this point its about having power and control, being considered a higher class worker or member of society, that's what drives him, he's already wealthy.
  
  Wealth drives the poor to work. Power drives the wealthy.
  
  Politicians are perfect examples, Richard Burris is a perfect example, already a well established Chicago politician who didn't need the paycheck from being senator, he just wanted the senate seat to fulfill his power drive.
8. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by damn_registrars · 2010-09-21 01:05 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Seriously. I mean, how do you get to the mental state that you give up 14 million in order to get into another job?
  He will make a lot more than $14M before he retires from Oracle...
  
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9. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by jeffmeden · 2010-09-21 01:06 · Score: 1
  
  Are you nuts? He will earn that $14M back (and then some) the first year he works at Oracle. In years to come, he will certainly make tens (if not hundreds) of millions more. A headline like "CEO parts with $14 million" shouldn't cause anyone to bat an eye, unless you are really clueless about how much they earn.
10. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 01:11 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Yeah! Just like Santa enabled the possibility for christmas presents!
11. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 01:14 · Score: 0
  
  Obviously he doesn't believe in god, and neither do I. God didn't do shit, Hurd did all the work with the people around him.
12. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 01:28 · Score: 0
  
  Did he give up $14M or did he give up $14M in HP shares? They're not the same thing. which, of course, always catches people because it gets reported as "gives up $14M". He has to sell his shares at the current stock price, all at once, to make that $14M, which means he has to find a buyer for those shares.
  Though, to be honest, I'm not sure how hard that is and what restrictions one has on stock selling, but I believe there's some sort of limit of how much you can sell and once you start.
13. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by shentino · 2010-09-21 01:52 · Score: 1
  
  No he doesn't.
  The shares were forfeited back to HP, they have to sell them.
14. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by El_Muerte_TDS · 2010-09-21 01:57 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  People like this man Hurd should be thankful to God for enabling the possibility for making millions come to light.
  I always find it funny when religion people would thank God for their success. If they even did some research into their own religion they would know what God isn't the deity that would grant wishes and hand out things like success. If anything it would be the other party that does it (usually in return for souls and what not).
15. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Lumpy · 2010-09-21 02:01 · Score: 1
  
  When $14,000,000 is pocket change to you. That is how overpaid these CEO's are.
  They are not normal, they have zero clue as to what the other 98% of the people on the planet live like.
  
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16. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Mongoose+Disciple · 2010-09-21 02:08 · Score: 1
  
  No doubt. Under Ellison's wing he'll probably clear $14M in hookers and blow alone!
17. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by TheRaven64 · 2010-09-21 02:14 · Score: 1
  
  He's not giving up $14m, he's giving up HP shares worth $14m at the current share price. It's not clear how soon he is allowed to sell them, but given how much damage Carly did to HP, and that Hurd had only just stated to turn the company around, I suspect he is not confident that they will be worth anything like $14m in a year's time.
  Oracle probably doesn't want him to have the shares either. If he owns $14m of HP, then he has a fairly strong incentive not to do anything while at Oracle that will cause the HP share price to dip...
  
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18. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by shoehornjob · 2010-09-21 02:30 · Score: 1
  
  God did not gave him a dime.
  I suppose that depends on your belief system. I don't believe in god but if he feels that god gave that guy a bunch of money to piss away then that's ok with me.
  
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  "We are just a war away from Amerikastan. When god vs god the undoing of man." Dave Mustaine
19. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by shoehornjob · 2010-09-21 02:38 · Score: 1
  
  Oh please. The only reason he gave up that money is because Oracle was going to cover him. No man in his right mind would give up that kind of money if he didn't get something in return.
  
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  "We are just a war away from Amerikastan. When god vs god the undoing of man." Dave Mustaine
20. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Nursie · 2010-09-21 03:10 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah sure.
  But my point was that In that situation I would have long retired, well before 14m seemed like the sort of money you'd give up because you wanted another job paying more.
21. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 03:21 · Score: 0
  
  This isn't anything... What was he paid when he left HP?
22. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by cusco · 2010-09-21 03:32 · Score: 1
  
  Damn, and I just blew my last mod points in another thread.
  
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23. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by DinDaddy · 2010-09-21 04:01 · Score: 1
  
  99.99999%
  Not 98%.
24. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Bassman59 · 2010-09-21 04:41 · Score: 1
  
  Don't think that his pal Ellison isn't making it up to him.
  This is truth.
25. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by SteveFoerster · 2010-09-21 04:41 · Score: 1
  
  I suppose that depends on your belief system.
  No, it doesn't. Just because people believe in a god doesn't mean one is there.
  
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26. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by shoehornjob · 2010-09-21 04:53 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah but to them god does exist. You and I may feel differently but that doesn't change the fact that some people choose faith in the face of scietific reason. As long as they don't come to my door trying to convert me we're good. Stay off my lawn.
  
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27. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by jeffmeden · 2010-09-21 05:26 · Score: 1
  
  Say that when you have $14 million to give up. It's like asking you to give up a $30,000 bonus to get another job making $60,000 a year... Money is relative, despite what many at the bottom think; the more you have the more you want and it never stops. I would have to say you are the exception and not the rule if you indeed do give up the prospect of many many millions in favor of "Retiring" with a few million. Sure it's easy to say, but those who do end up in that situation virtually never turn down more money.
28. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Kilrah_il · 2010-09-21 08:02 · Score: 1
  
  That reminds me of a story I read about a woman who suffered from Rheumatoid Arthritis for 20 years with no relief, although she tried every medications possible. One day her doctor gave her one of the new biological drugs and she got better and was walking around without any pain.
  In the interview she thanked God for giving her the medication that freed her from the pain. I never did understand why she didn't blame God for the 20 years of suffering that preceeded the "miracle". People somehow react to God in a very asymmetrical manner.
  
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29. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by McGiraf · 2010-09-21 11:10 · Score: 1
  
  Not OK with me, it prevents him from understanding why this guy as all this money and not him.
  If he KNEW why instead of believing it's the way it is because some fairy decided "let it be so" then that would make one less sheep and social change would be closer. Cause he'd be pissed.
30. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by McGiraf · 2010-09-21 11:12 · Score: 1
  
  No man is an island. You are affected in every aspect of your life by everybody else.
  His influence on your world is not good.
31. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 12:14 · Score: 0
  
  Eh, that's so common I wonder how you didn't notice it much earlier in your life. God does bad things, He's testing your resolve/faith, or He's working in mysterious ways (see infamous story about Job). If God does good things, He's blessed your life. The dissonance of thinking God is good even though the morals human brains came up with would rate Him as a mercurial jerk I suppose.
32. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 13:42 · Score: 0
  
  God's got nothing to do with it, but yeah it's fucking outrageous how people can have salaries like that when we have children with no shoes still.
33. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 13:50 · Score: 0
  
  Here's a tip for reducing that mortgage: when you get your tax refund next year, go to the bank and use it as a payment on your mortgage. You'll save more money that way than you will any other.
  Another tip: any investment that has a return less than the interest on your mortgage should be sold out and money put into your mortgage.
  It isn't hard to pay down a mortgage ahead of time, but it does take discipline and sacrifices.
  When you look at your bank statements for your checking/savings account, deduct the amount owed on your mortgage from those to get your real situation.
34. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by ArwynH · 2010-09-21 15:58 · Score: 1
  
  And just because you don't believe in God, does not mean He does not exist.
  Without concrete proof either way, both are valid, mutually exclusive hypotheses. Don't let your acceptance of one blind you to the fact that the other might be the one that is correct.
35. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by mahadiga · 2010-09-21 16:44 · Score: 1
  
  "Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool." --Mark Twain
  
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36. Re:What I could do with $just 1,000,000 by shoehornjob · 2010-09-22 03:42 · Score: 1
  
  Very good point. That will take a lot of waking up I think.
  
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  "We are just a war away from Amerikastan. When god vs god the undoing of man." Dave Mustaine
Oh - good! by no-body · 2010-09-21 00:21 · Score: 2, Insightful

Now, that he "renounces" all that dough - how many regular people have to work less to pay for the cream of the crop up there?
That's one text I'd like to put on a bumper sticker: How many people does it take to pay a C?O ?
1. Re:Oh - good! by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 01:45 · Score: 0
  
  Well, obviously that $14 million in savings can now be distributed to the hard-working, regular HP employees.
  BWHAHAHAHA.
2. Re:Oh - good! by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 05:02 · Score: 0
  
  I think that one depends on what HP chooses for it's new CEO, which has not been covered much on Slashdot unfortunately. Hopefully the Board of Directors will choose a good one. I read that HP is looking inside for candidates.
Severance Packages by Sonny+Yatsen · 2010-09-21 00:22 · Score: 3, Interesting

It always seems a bit perverse that outgoing executives are rewarded so lavishly when being ousted for wrong-doing. Hurd (allegedly) sexually harassed a woman and he got a $14 million+ payday out of it. I'm not going to cry for him if he has to give it up.

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1. Re:Severance Packages by EmagGeek · 2010-09-21 00:25 · Score: 0
  
  See, here's the thing. Sexual Harassment is a crime, and unless/until he is convicted of it, he didn't do it, and there was no wrongdoing.
2. Re:Severance Packages by blind+biker · 2010-09-21 00:25 · Score: 2
  
  Actually, Hurd was ousted for fraud. The sexual harassment is unproven (and from what I've read, most likely untrue allegation), but his fraudolent behavior is more than bad enough to warrant the loss of confidence of the HP shareholders.
  
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3. Re:Severance Packages by Sonny+Yatsen · 2010-09-21 00:33 · Score: 1
  
  You realize, of course, that boards of corporations don't care about actual convictions, right?
  It's not as if companies can't fire someone until after they're indicted, convicted and sentenced.
  
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4. Re:Severance Packages by Mongoose+Disciple · 2010-09-21 01:01 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Sexual Harassment is a crime, and unless/until he is convicted of it, he didn't do it, and there was no wrongdoing. ... legally.
  Unless you think it's ethical for me to murder you as long as I don't get caught?
5. Re:Severance Packages by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 01:20 · Score: 0
  
  You don't HAVE to murder someone for me to think you're ethically wrong. A bunch of of people just have to THINK you've murdered someone for you to be a corrupt demon! No need to rely on judgment, brand the sucker guilty as sin,
6. Re:Severance Packages by timeOday · 2010-09-21 01:36 · Score: 1
  
  Sexual Harassment is a crime, and unless/until he is convicted of it, he didn't do it, and there was no wrongdoing.
  Where I work, you certainly wouldn't be allowed to hang a bikini calendar on the wall, and that's no crime. (Although it probably would get the employer sued, and is therefore sort of defacto illegal).
7. Re:Severance Packages by Mongoose+Disciple · 2010-09-21 02:05 · Score: 1
  
  No need to rely on judgment, brand the sucker guilty as sin,
  A straw man yells, "Help! An Anonymous Coward is beating me!"
8. Re:Severance Packages by joeyblades · 2010-09-21 02:12 · Score: 1
  
  When you have a lot of money, you can be a target. We will probably never know if Hurd sexually harassed Fisher or if Fisher exploited Hurd's position to extort money and favors. It seems suspicious that Fisher sought financial compensation from Hurd rather than following the usual channels with HP's HR department...
  However, all of that is irrelevant, because that is not what Hurd was ousted for (at least not officially). He was ousted for filing inaccurate expense reports. The problem with this is that it was never shown that the inaccuracies were intentional or accidental. The matter was not pursued, since Hurd voluntarily stepped down.
  In our society, someone is assumed innocent until proven guilty. Hurd has not been proven guilty of either charge.
  HP completely mishandled this situation and it has cost them dearly. If HP had not offered Hurd his golden parachute, it would have cost HP even more in the long run. They would never be able to recruit decent executives in the future.
9. Re:Severance Packages by King_TJ · 2010-09-21 02:21 · Score: 1
  
  Sure, you can become a target when you make a lot of money. But that's one more reason to trot out the old line about, "With great power comes great responsibility." Money = power, in this case. If you manage to get into a position where you're paid millions of dollars to do a job, you should be extra cautious about the decisions you make that could negatively affect you.
  He filed inaccurate expense reports? Well, who CARES if it was provably intentional or not!? How hard is it to accurately fill out an expense report?! I've done it many times at my job, and it's a simple matter of turning in all your receipts and documenting on a sheet of paper when and for what purpose each of them was. If you submitted tens of thousands of dollars worth of them "questionable" enough to result in your employer considering terminating you? You *screwed up*, period!
  Unlike most of us, Hurd earned enough money so he could EASILY have just paid out of pocket for anything he wanted that he wasn't absolutely SURE his employer was going to cover without any problems!
10. Re:Severance Packages by tehcyder · 2010-09-21 02:49 · Score: 1
  
  Companies don't generally want their names associated with criminal behaviour, if you're caught nicking a tenner from the petty cash tin, you'll probably be sacked but it's unlikely your boss will get the police involved.
  
  On a bigger scale, when someone steals money from a financial institution, if it gets to become a criminal matter there's a lot of bad publicity, damage to the company's reputation for security, and so on.
  
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11. Re:Severance Packages by EmagGeek · 2010-09-21 03:27 · Score: 1
  
  "Unless you think it's ethical for me to murder you as long as I don't get caught?"
  Murder is the _unlawful_ taking of the life of another, not the _unethical_ taking of life. It's a legal jurisdiction, not an ethical one. It is not always unlawful to take the life of another person, so it would be up to a court to decide. So no, you would not have murdered me unless/until you were convicted of it in court.
  It is certainly ethical to take the life of another under certain circumstances.
12. Re:Severance Packages by EmagGeek · 2010-09-21 03:30 · Score: 1
  
  Actually, hanging a bikini calendar on the wall would probably qualify as "Hostile Environment Sexual Harassment," and in certain cases could very well be a crime.
13. Re:Severance Packages by joeyblades · 2010-09-21 11:23 · Score: 1
  
  High paid executives rarely fill out their own expense reports. They have peeps for doing that. The communication part of that process doesn't always happen seamlessly. Things that are supposed to go in one bucket end up in another. Personal expenses get confused as business expenses. Expenses end up being claimed in the wrong period, etc.. It's easy to do an expense report when you do it yourself and it's only a few thousand dollars... not so easy when it's a team effort and involves hundreds of thousands of dollars. Seriously, being off over multiple expense reports by $20K may seem a lot to you, but for an executive of Hurd's caliber it's a minor infraction. HPs issue was not so much about being off, but what they believe the expenses were for.
Good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 00:24 · Score: 0

RMS doesn't have that much money and GNU/Hurd isn't worth a cup of coffee.
Who are these open source zealots kidding nowadays?
It stops being about money by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 00:25 · Score: 0

At some point it stops being about money, it's more like a game.
Not really paying... by damn_registrars · 2010-09-21 00:26 · Score: 1

As the summary stated, he's forfeiting shares of stock that are worth millions. This is bonus money that he is essentially declining; he's not writing anyone a check for $14M.

And of course, he is still paid handsomely on top of that anyways.

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Right, and HP is being stupid. Hurd now has... by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 00:34 · Score: 0

Hurd now has NO incentive to make sure HP's value continues to rise. He can easily sabotage their partnership without direct hardship to himself. They should have asked for a multi-year vesting period instead.
strange brew that's also good for you by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 00:36 · Score: 0

That would be home made Kombucha.
"Paying dearly" by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 00:37 · Score: 0

Gotta spend money to make money
its a gay marriage by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 00:38 · Score: 0

/./.
Also by Nursie · 2010-09-21 00:49 · Score: 1

I've started to wonder, just how annoying, obnoxious and asshole-ish do I have to be to get someone to pay me tens of millions to leave?
Because I'll study, I'll practice! Just tell me now, how irritating do I need to get that 35 million to have me leave the building is a good plan?
1. Re:Also by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 01:15 · Score: 0
  
  I've started to wonder, just how annoying, obnoxious and asshole-ish do I have to be to get someone to pay me tens of millions to leave?
  Because I'll study, I'll practice! Just tell me now, how irritating do I need to get that 35 million to have me leave the building is a good plan?
  Very simple...When it will cost the company more to keep you.
2. Re:Also by Dishevel · 2010-09-21 02:41 · Score: 1
  
  I've started to wonder, just how annoying, obnoxious and asshole-ish do I have to be to get someone to pay me tens of millions to leave?
  Because I'll study, I'll practice! Just tell me now, how irritating do I need to get that 35 million to have me leave the building is a good plan?
  Very simple...When it will cost the company more to keep you.
  AND they can not get rid of you cheaper than that.
  
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$14 million by DrXym · 2010-09-21 01:12 · Score: 2

I guess that means he can have 28 chicks at once!
1. Re:$14 million by PhrstBrn · 2010-09-21 01:33 · Score: 1
  
  I guess that means he can have 28 chicks at once!
  It's sad that I know what quote you are referencing. I need to get out more.
Vows? by vvaduva · 2010-09-21 01:30 · Score: 1

"HP and Oracle also reaffirmed their vows to each other."
It sounds like a celebrity marriage on the rocks!
Damn! Where is it??? by pandrijeczko · 2010-09-21 01:40 · Score: 1

I know I put that tiniest violin in the world down here somewhere...

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big picture by Hadlock · 2010-09-21 01:43 · Score: 3, Insightful

14 Million isn't a whole lot if you look at the big picture. Sure, he's giving up 14 million to leave HP, but remember he left HP with ~$30 million severance, and has a salary of $1 million with a bonus cap of $10 million, and receives 35 million shares of oracle stock (cumulative) over five years which alone is worth at least $35 million dollars.

I mean, yeah, $14 million is a lot of money I wouldn't want to give up at my current pay rate, but over five years he stands to make $90 million dollars at Oracle, and doesn't have to collect unemployment.

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1. Re:big picture by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 09:31 · Score: 0
  
  Hurd's unemployment wouldn't be enough to pay his guy that ties his shoes.
Giving up his stock... by skogs · 2010-09-21 01:47 · Score: 2, Interesting

So, he will have even less incentive to NOT hurt HP. The stocks might have given some incentive and/or conflict of interest when faced when challenging HP in any way. Now he can can freely use his ~*amazing*~ competative knowledge against them.
Interesting way to settle a lawsuit. I'm curious how this will play out during the next 10 years with government and large contracts.

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1. Re:Giving up his stock... by shentino · 2010-09-21 02:00 · Score: 1
  
  Especially now that he has motive. HP just sued the guy, after all.
Start complaining about taxes? by lwriemen · 2010-09-21 01:58 · Score: 1

I guess if you've already been duped by the special interests with the big pockets, you could already be doing that. Many middle to lower income people have been duped into dressing as a parody of native americans to throw tea into bodies of water as they march toward the poverty line.
don't sweat it by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 03:22 · Score: 1, Interesting

On this globe, today, making these huge sums these media and business celebrities make..you can't get there without being a total asshole bastard. All those people are unscrupulous jerks, psychopaths. Those people are demons, evil.
If you value honesty and integrity...be happy with what you have.
I'm probably older than you, and also probably "make less money". I know I have turned down ways to make more money rather than compromise my position, even if it only applies to inside my own head/heart/soul.
To hell with the money and always wanting more and never being satisfied, it just ain't worth it.
LOL @ the noncompete's are unenforcible crowd by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-21 05:23 · Score: 0

Noncompete's unenforcible? Eat niggerdick you shitcocks!