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Google Publishes Censorship Map

Entropy98 writes "Google has released a censorship map showing how often countries around the world request user information and censor services such as Youtube. The US government asked Google for user information 4,287 times during the first six months of 2010. Information on China is conspicuously absent."

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  1. Really, editors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You link to an article talking about it, but not the source link? http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/

  2. Yo dawg by selven · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard you like censorship so I censored your censorship map...

  3. Re:for the impatient by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Informative

    For the super-impatient, a link you can click!

  4. Trust? by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Chinese officials consider censorship demands to be state secrets so we cannot disclose that information at this time," said Google.

    So tell me why we should believe anything they say?

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    1. Re:Trust? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Worse: it's not only China.

      According to other sources, National Security Letters (NSLs) from the U.S. government are not reported by Google.

      NSLs are issued with gag orders preventing their disclosure. They're essentially a method of bypassing the standard judicial process, instead using a system more closely resembling the Chinese government's secrecy. For Americans, they should be much more of a concern than the Chinese officials' "state secrets."

      Source:
      http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/google-government-requests-rise/

  5. Re:Dupe by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes and no. This looks like a new report, of the same kind, for a different time period. Five months ago, the report covered the second half of 2009, this report covers the first half of 2010.

  6. This doesn't make sense at all. by d474 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the Government asks Google for information about a user, how is that "censorship"? It may be a violation of privacy, but it's not censorship unless Google admits that the government then used that information about the user to censor their online activities. Of course, I did not RTFA. I prefer to censor myself ;P

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  7. My first thoughts by Ishkibble · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My first thoughts are 'this is great'. Google claims "don't be evil" so it better live up to it. Money corrupts a corporation and since they have gone public that has been called into question. I have an android phone and i happily let Google track me, i let them keep my email, my photos, my digital life, the least they can do is put out something like this. This map is not for me though, its for the average Googler who doesn't fully understand how Google collects and keeps and uses personal data.

  8. Where are the percentages? by CannonballHead · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They give the map with actual numbers, apparently, right?

    I'd be more interested in what percentage of data that Google COULD get asked about is actually asked about.

    Otherwise, it's like saying that I killed 300 cows whereas my neighbor only killed 1. Well, it just so happens that my herd is 300x as big, too... a more understandable reading would be the percentage of cows killed per herd.

  9. Re:Dupe by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Interesting

    >>>United States
    >>>4287 data requests

    I'd like to see this same information broken-down State-by-State, so we can see which states are most censoring. I'm betting New York and California and Pennsylvania are near the top, given their previous activities.

    As for China, I wonder how long it will be until someplace like Australia or Canada decide "Hey that's a good idea" and declare takedown request to be state secrets.

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  10. What happened on Feb 25 2010 ? by equex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Look at the Traffic chart ( http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/traffic/ ) Seems to be a huge peak and after that general activity falls quite a bit compared to before that date ?

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  11. Biggest democracies, biggest culprits by losttoy · · Score: 3, Informative

    United States 4287 Brazil 2435 India 1430 United Kingdom 1343 France 1017 Germany 668 Italy 651 Spain 372 Australia 200

    1. Re:Biggest democracies, biggest culprits by h00manist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not all of them
      Canada ............. 10

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    2. Re:Biggest democracies, biggest culprits by glwtta · · Score: 4, Funny

      Canada ............. 10

      Yeah, but that's like 1 for every 10 Canadians.

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    3. Re:Biggest democracies, biggest culprits by Experiment+626 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If a democratic government doesn't like what you are looking at online, they take it down.
      If a totalitarian government doesn't like what you are looking at online, they take YOU down.

  12. State Secrets by hondo77 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Chinese officials consider censorship demands to be state secrets so we cannot disclose that information at this time," said Google.

    Somewhere in Washington, D.C. or nearby Virginia, someone in a cubicle just said, "Ooh, good idea!"

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  13. Re:Dupe by grub · · Score: 5, Interesting


    As for China, I wonder how long it will be until someplace like Australia or Canada decide "Hey that's a good idea" and declare takedown request to be state secrets.

    I checked the map, interesting Canada has less than 10 (!)

    World of difference the border between the US and Canada makes.

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  14. Re:Dupe by Abstrackt · · Score: 4, Funny

    World of difference the border between the US and Canada makes.

    Yeah, the temperature is like 50 degrees lower.

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  15. Re:Dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are probably many more U.S. demands than are reported by this tool.

    As for China, I wonder how long it will be until someplace like Australia or Canada decide "Hey that's a good idea" and declare takedown request to be state secrets.

    Read about National Security Letters. Since 9/11, these have been a popular method for American government agencies to evade public and judicial scrutiny during investigations. The very existence of a particular NSL cannot be disclosed legally.

    NSLs are not reported by Google. They are our very own homegrown version of China's "state secret" demands. If you are served an NSL, and you tell someone of that fact, you can face jail time (merely for discussing its existence).

  16. Re:China goes "meta" by Dan667 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they generally yell "think of the children" when they are taking away your rights so how can you tell?

  17. Re:Dupe by treeves · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's only true on occasion, when it happens to be 72.5 at the US side of the border and 22.5 right over the border in Canada.

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  18. Re:Interesting by amRadioHed · · Score: 3, Funny

    While it's true a government operated CCTV can be found in the homes of most Chinese people, I don't think it is what you think it is.

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  19. It's just division.... by guyminuslife · · Score: 5, Informative

    Come on! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to derive those values. Here's a list of government requests per million people, rounded and only including the countries where the number of datums requested was shown. Argentina - - - 3.307095
    Australia - - - 8.901248
    Austria - - - 0.238865
    Belgium - - - 6.557971
    Brazil - - - 12.581119
    Chile - - - 6.712585
    France - - - 15.539203
    Germany - - - 8.166034
    Hong Kong - - - 7.11602
    India - - - 1.203775
    Israel - - - 3.932982
    Italy - - - 10.7777
    Japan - - - 0.439595
    Libya - - - 22.761992
    Portugal - - - 6.86291
    Singapore - - - 20.879705
    South Korea - - - 3.415496
    Spain - - - 8.074172
    Switzerland - - - 4.497038
    Taiwan - - - 5.620141
    Turkey - - - 0.702854
    United Kingdom - - - 21.658479
    United States - - - 13.815395

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  20. Re:Dupe by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At least in cases of some NSLs that we became aware of, NSL stated that even disclosing its existence is illegal. Disclosing the number of NSLs served would, quite obviously, disclose their existence.

    I also recall reading that some organizations in US have taken the approach of regularly posting something like "no NSLs have been served this months". This way, if one month they don't post anything, you know what happened.

  21. Re:Dupe by emj · · Score: 4, Informative

    And here it is Googles transparency report instead of a useless article with no links. Interesting that Germany and the US have the same amount of take down requests..