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Deodorant Sought to Save New Zealand's Native Birds

New Zealand researchers have received a NZ$600,000 grant to develop a deodorant for native birds whose strong odors make them easy targets for introduced predators. Since the birds evolved without any mammal predators they emit a very strong odor compared to birds in other parts of the world. Canterbury University researcher Jim Briskie says kiwis smell like mushrooms or ammonia, while kakapo parrots have a hint of "musty violin case."

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  1. survival of the fittest by yincrash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    are we going to just deodorize them for the rest of time? i understand that it's probably our introduction of predators, but other than preservation in a zoo, how is it any way feasible or practical to deodorize them?

    1. Re:survival of the fittest by Moryath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not feasible, but that never stopped a government full of fucking morons from authorizing this kind of waste of money before.

      These are the same type of people who decided there were too many insects, so they brought in toads... then they brought in cats, dogs, bunnies as pets... they brought in foxes for "recreational hunting"...brought in "pretty flowers", "garden plants", and on and on.

      It's a wonder that vineweeds like "St. Augustine Grass" haven't overrun the whole fucking island. Of course, they have enough trouble with ragwort...

    2. Re:survival of the fittest by Just_Say_Duhhh · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Wouldn't it be easier to make a Kakapo-scented TRAP?

      If you can't get rid of the predators, at least help the predators select out their taste for Kakapo

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    3. Re:survival of the fittest by ChrisMaple · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is simply not possible to meet all human needs. That you don't undrestand this is an indication that you don't know how vile some people are. There are people who destroy stuff for the fun of it or because they're too drunk/drugged to know what they're doing, or care what they're doing. Having destroyed their own stuff, they'll whine that their needs aren't being met, and there will always be others who insist that a third party provide their needs.

      People who do not deserve to live, should not be helped to live off the efforts of others. A person who helps someone who is immoral, is performing an immoral act.

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  2. Re:I know hippies will mod me down for this by Moryath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also, one would imagine if they tasted good, New Zealand would long ago have started farming them and introduced "New Zealand Fried Kakapo" restaurants all over.

    I suppose it would be bad for them to all die, but I'm not sure why, exactly.

    Species go extinct all the time. They did it before humans, they'll do it after humans. Some of them do it to themselves, some succumb to natural climate shifts, some wind up as dinner due to an evolution by a predator. One good volcanic eruption can take out a whole bunch of them - and if it burns up most of the plant material on the island, the herbivores are pretty much doomed.

    Humans are the most arrogant idiotic species on the planet: we're so damn arrogant we actually think we can save species of animals from the normal course of change, e.g. extinction.

  3. Re:I know hippies will mod me down for this by John+Whitley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suppose it would be bad for them to all die, but I'm not sure why, exactly.

    Wow, what's not to understand here?

    1. Animal adapts to its native environment, and survives just fine.
    2. Humans introduce invasive, non-native species that displace and/or devastate native species. Being capable of awareness of our environment and capable of compassion, we eventually feel like fuck-ups for this. "Damn, made a mess. Maybe should go clean it up."
    3. We try to do something about it.

    It's #2 that's key, and it doesn't require being a "hippie" to get it. Even non-hippies manage to keep a clean house. Is that sentiment so hard to grok?

  4. I understand your concerns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    that it isn't going to help the kiwi in the long run, but you must remember, the kiwi is the symbol of national pride here. I'm sure you americans would have no problem spending squillions if the opportunity presented itself to retain the bald eagle.

  5. Going about this all wrong by dheltzel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Instead of deodorizing the birds, they should just make a synthetic version of the smell and spray it all around the island, confusing the predators because the smell is everywhere.

  6. Re:They are not adapting to native environment by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The native environment includes predators now.

    Um, I'm pretty sure the "native" word was to make clear that while now there are predators, they didn't get there on their own power.

    And it's not like we genetically engineered the things.

    Not yet.

    They are natural too. It's not like species have not transferred locations before, it probably would have happened anyway someday even without humans.

    I'm going to guess "no". The point is, it's a guess, just like your comment is a guess. Humans have intentionally or unintentionally introduced a lot of species into places where they would almost certainly would never have reached (ie, the birds would have died out before the cats came or the cats would have evolved and been a different species by the time they reached the islands). I think it's a bit too simple to act like humans aren't responsible for what has happened.

    Basically, they found a comfortable place for a time but made bad evolutionary choices that ensured some day they would be screwed.

    Or, you know, it could be that nature made good evolutionary choices. You know those feral cats killing the birds? What happens when all the birds die out? Yea, they might just all die out unless humans start feeding them (possibly with imported meat). There's a reason there's often not many, if any, largish mammals on islands: there's generally too much isolation for prey to move away resulting in large predator die-offs when their food supply runs low. Maybe the feral cats or rats will be small enough to survive. But it's not like the birds made a "bad evolutionary choice". You make it sound like they took the wrong path on a road or went out gambling and lost it big on the roulette. :)

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  7. Re:They are not adapting to native environment by jrumney · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it probably would have happened anyway someday even without humans.

    Someday, when feral cats learn to make boats stocked up with provisions and sail thousands of miles across the ocean.