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Why Warriors, Not Geeks, Run US Cyber Command Posts

koterica writes "The Washington Post explains why the military prefers to have combat veterans rather than geeks running network security. '"It was supposed to be a war fighter unit, not a geek unit," said task force veteran Jason Healey, who had served as an Air Force signals intelligence officer. A fighter would understand, for instance, if an enemy had penetrated the networks and changed coordinates or target times, said Dusty Rhoads, a retired Air Force colonel and former F-117 pilot who recruited the original task force members. "A techie wouldn't have a clue," he said.'"

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  1. Re:Umm by mfh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geeks cannot be trained. We are all hatched.

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    The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
  2. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Because it's easier to train a meathead to be a nerd than to teach a nerd when someone is trying to give your nation a wedgie?

  3. Re:Umm by zill · · Score: 4, Funny

    We have flame-wars about OS, distribution, editor, and even browser.

    What do you think would happen in those flame-wars when we get our hands on stealth bombers and ICBMs?

  4. Re:Okay... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can't fix network problems with live ammo.

    Oh yeah? Put a couple of rounds into a slow router and see how fast management authorizes the purchase request for new equipment.

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    Have gnu, will travel.
  5. Re:Umm by peragrin · · Score: 2, Funny

    well that explains where the smell comes from.

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    i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
  6. Geeks can be warriors. by elucido · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't understand the assumption that geeks have to be wussies. I'm certainly not a wuss on the intellectual level. Physically I'd get my ass beat down but intellectually I can hold my own with anybody.

  7. Re:Warrior? by Nidi62 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, that's not fair. A lot of them have to fight weight gain.

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  8. Re:Umm by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Speaking with girls is kind of problem-solving, yet geeks are pretty bad at it.

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    Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  9. Re:Umm by Moryath · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nothing. The geeks would all be too busy figuring out ways to get the stealth bomber and ICBM onboard computers to run Pong, Tetris and then Super Mario Bros.

  10. Re:why would you think that? by Larryish · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our semi-literate overlords.

  11. Changed coordinates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    '"It was supposed to be a war fighter unit, not a geek unit," said task force veteran Jason Healey, who had served as an Air Force signals intelligence officer. A fighter would understand, for instance, if an enemy had penetrated the networks and changed coordinates or target times, said Dusty Rhoads, a retired Air Force colonel and former F-117 pilot who recruited the original task force members. "A techie wouldn't have a clue," he said.'"

    Really? Changed coordinates? Wow, Mr. Veteran Officer! I hope 4chan doesn't find out! Just so they can't change them to e.g. 38.897843,-77.026515 but how would they go about actually firing the missile (fitted with a live conventional, high-yield warhead)? :-)

  12. Re:Umm by regularstranger · · Score: 1, Funny

    That's because bitches make no sense. If you put the most sophisticated encryption and hardest puzzles into a device that, if cracked, would open up and display a vagina, the geeks would have no problem with it, and the jocks would be the ones without booty. As it is, being able to manage endless contradictions is what makes morons so successful with bitches. Helps to be hot too (and able to figure out what "hot" is - see previous point). Actually, if I were smart, I would become a moron. I'm trying to make the transition.

  13. "A techie wouldn't have a clue" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "A techie wouldn't have a clue"

    Nice recruiting tactic...makes me wanna run out and volunteer myself right now!

  14. Cyber command can't even grasp the concept of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... or maybe it's the Washington Post???

    "On New Year's Eve 2000, a group of task force members watched a bank of clocks as first Japan, then Australia passed into the new millennium without incident."

    Errr, but Australia is closer to the international date line ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_date_line ) than Japan... as evidenced by this map ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/Timezones2008_-_UTC%2B10.png ).

    Are Americans all this bad at geography?

  15. Bull by boddhisatva · · Score: 2, Funny

    Any techie with real security know-how (from either side - both is better) and who has read Sun Tzu (therefore knowing better than the military how to conduct a war) could handle anything given the manuals. You want the best in cyber warfare and that is someone who eats, sleeps and shits the stuff. You're going to throw an Air Force pilot at a security breach? Would you have your pole-vaulter run the 1,000 meter for your team?