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RIM Doesn't Want 200 Fart Apps
andylim writes "Just when you thought it was safe to dev a fart app for a BlackBerry, RIM's VP of platform product management, Alan Panezic, is making it clear that that's not want RIM is looking for. 'We don't need 200 fart apps in App World. Those are apps you'll use three or four times then never open again. You're not looking at ads, clicking on ads or buying premium upgrades, and the app isn't adding any value to your device.' Turns out RIM wants 'SuperApps', ones that keep you coming back for more because they add something to your life — be it ongoing entertainment value or doing something for you. Most importantly for developers, these are the apps that will garner the most revenue; whether it comes from premium upgrades, in-app advertising, or additional-cost content."
...but a RIM ain't one.
"I hope you know how very lucky you are to know me, because I am so incredibly incredible."
...many of its customers actually want fart apps, because some people think they're entertaining.
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Wait... you actually LIKE Xcode?
So far I've never met anyone who didn't have the urge to jump off a building after being forced to use it.
I actually happen to also like XCode. You don't happen to work at a psychiatric hospital with a large number of patients on suicide watch, would you? If so then I think there could be other explanations for your observation than XCode.
I agree that tons of cheaply made useless apps only lessen the value of a platforms app market, but really what you end up with is Apple's subjective selection process. I guess ideally one could have a selective app section walled off for those who want a more professional user experience, outside of which would be your 'unapproved' fart apps etc. Of course they would have to add some value to the creators for placing them inside the wall, but thats up to RIM to decide what it would like to offer I guess.
You're not looking at ads, clicking on ads or buying premium upgrades, and the app isn't adding any value to your device.'
I hope he didn't list those problems in *decending* order of importance...
Information theory is life. The rest is just the KL divergence.
Considering that only 20% of iPhone App installs get used more than once, I'd say that the BlackBerry fart apps are doing pretty well, in comparison.
-- "In order to have power, I must be taken seriously." -Mojo Jojo
So he's busy doing the Apple thing and won't have time to make fart and piss apps for RIM.
Too bad. If he'd been hired by RIM instead, we'd have lots of jokes about how the fart-app guy got a RIM job.
Alan Panezic sez: "We don't need 200 fart apps in App World. Those are apps you'll use three or four times then never open again."
The very fact that your developers want to write them and your customers want to download them means nothing to you?
Everyone knows that if a PDA can't fart, it can't do shit.
Farting isn't a good way to get a RIM job?
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde
that links to the various job hunting sites.
They could call it...ohhh...I dunno...something like "Rim Jobs"
Think about it, you can search hotjobs and save it as a search for "Hot Rim Jobs" or save your search for "Monster Rim Jobs".
It has a ring to it...you gotta admit it
Sig Follows: "Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." -- Mark Twain
You can block my 200 fart apps but I only need one vuvuzela app..
did you forget to take your meds?
I was recently on a business trip and had my blackberry at my hip.
On a trip, I needed translator software, so went to RIM app world and found my options limited, i "trialed" their $30.00 french translator. (Let me say first I tried to use the web interface for google, but it took so long and so many clicks on the BB it was unusable consistently).
Well it was useless. Didn't do phrases, no real options, only did 1 word at a time. WTF? $30.00?!?
Luckily I had my ipad handy and saw what was available on the app store there. For 1.99 I got an offline app that KILLED the blackberry app in terms of features and usability.
So, in real work business usage, I have to say, RIM, you've lost me personally, but do continue to make back bench, locked in deals with CEO's to get your phones locked into corporations while you can.
Smart people use smartphones and want usability and fart apps for novelties to take their brains away from work once in awhile. .I will never go back to blackberry.
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Notice how the only people advocating Xcode are anonymous cowards?
Ok fine, then... Download your apps from places other than appworld? It's not the only place to get blackberry apps. Crackberry has a feature rich store, etc. Yes appworld is one of the easiest ways to start an ota install from your mobile but even then I've had apps before that I installed from the browser. This is, perhaps the difference between RIM and Apple - with Apple, the only way to get your app on a non-jail broken device is to sell it through their store. With RIM that's just one option.
You have to use their linker, there is no other choice. The linker alone will give you the run-around if you don't do it their way.
Knowing that RIM wants to push me into ad-laden crapware saved me the time of going down to the 'phone store and even looking at their stuff.
Nope, you needed to use apple's (gcc) compiler but you could still develop with bash and vi if you wanted to.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
the linker works fine from the command line.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Classy jokes usually aren't the funny ones.
Bow-ties are cool.
Design your store like Slashdot, let the users moderate things down and then browse at -1 for fart apps.
Why is this such an issue? Because Steve Jobs said it first?
Notice how the only people advocating Xcode are anonymous cowards?
Do I appear to be anonymous?
WTF is wrong with these people. Advertisements do NOT enhance anything, and I'm sick of them as they are everywhere..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
'200 fart apps' is a side-effect of a huge creative force called a non-restricted (or nearly-unrestricted) army of free developers.
Sure, they do what the market wants, rather than what RIM's CEO deems is of a personal opinion could be useful.
pro: huge app base, huge choice of vendor for the same kind of app, unique idea apps (turn iPhone screen into a break light for a bicycle? etc etc).
con: fart apps. Seriously, big whoop.
They go in a tight package. Ask Linus. Ask Bill. Ask Steve.
RIM is not a platform for any 3rd party software dev that isn't actively being paid by RIM. It's not a platform - it's a standalone niche product.
The con might give your platform -1, but the pro gives it +100.
Which is why RIM will never crawl out of its corporate niche.
PS
Had a bb from work for 2 years. Now have i
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I know I don't - I don't think there are a whole lot of them. After all, Objective C has no significant enterprise market and 5% of all desktops. The only software market they have a significant presence in is mobile apps, which is growing but is still pretty tiny. I don't see Objective C getting all that much traction unless Apple loosens their grip, and that doesn't seem very likely.