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Unseen Moon Landing Video Released

bazzalunatic writes "Digitally remastered footage of the moon landing, including high-quality and brighter images of Neil Armstrong stepping off the ladder will be shown for the first time ever to the general public at an awards ceremony in Sydney, Australia. The magnetic data tapes seem to have all been lost — erased — by NASA, so all that's left are VHS recordings, which have been restored, giving the best-ever film of the whole moon landing. The publicity over this seems to be pushing NASA into releasing the whole 3-hour recording."

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  1. Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was a sound stage on mars

    1. Re:Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uh, no. Mars can't have gravity, it's in space. Duh yourself.

    2. Re:Bah! by stjobe · · Score: 2, Informative

      On a (somewhat more) serious note: man went to the Moon ONCE

      Well, six times really:
      Apollo 11
      Apollo 12
      Apollo 14
      Apollo 15
      Apollo 16
      Apollo 17
      All of them had man walking (and for some even driving) on the moon.

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  2. VHS recordings? by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Informative

    There was no Video Home System when the moon landings happened. There was reel to reel tape, and cinescope, but no VHS until 1976.

    1. Re:VHS recordings? by the_humeister · · Score: 2, Funny

      There was no Video Home System when the moon landings happened. There was reel to reel tape, and cinescope, but no VHS until 1976.

      It's a faaaaaaaaake!

    2. Re:VHS recordings? by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Informative

      RTFA: It's a 1980s dupe onto VHS of the original reel-to-reel.

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    3. Re:VHS recordings? by commodore64_love · · Score: 4, Informative

      There was no VHS at the time of the airing of the First, Second, or Third Doctors either.

      Nevertheless some of the lost episodes were recovered from VHS or Betamax because that's all we have left. Perhaps some engineer copied the original 1969 tapes over to a VHS collection. Then the originals were erased by an idiot, so all that's left are the backups.

      Aside - VHS is a really crummy format for storage. Only ~320 pixels across by 486 scanlines. The original magnetic tapes from 1969 probably offered the full resolution possible with NTSC-I, or about ~640x480. Super VHS can capture that full resolution, but not regular VHS.

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    4. Re:VHS recordings? by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So... Taken with a high definition camera, beamed 400,000 km, received in Australia, displayed on a low resolution screen, recorded with a camera pointed at said screen, sent around the world to the US, saved on reel to reel tapes, dubbed from reel to reel to VHS, digitized and uploaded to a computer, digitally enhanced, and then made available to the world on the internet. And even ignoring the fact that every step of the process could only ever remove information, it's still probably one of the most important and historically interesting videos humanity has ever created.

    5. Re:VHS recordings? by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Usually I do RTFA, but in this case I didn't see what TFA could add, unless the video of the landing itself is linked. There are way too many times I bother to go to TFA only to find that it's just the /. summary with a lot of padding and usually a whole lot of annoying advertising. (example)

    6. Re:VHS recordings? by hcdejong · · Score: 5, Informative

      The footage we're talking about was originally taken with a slowcan camera, 250 TV lines at 10 fps. That's not "a high definition camera".

    7. Re:VHS recordings? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 2, Funny

      Very high above mean sea level, and #DEFINE moon_landing = TRUE?

  3. Digital remaster scheme by Enderwiggin13 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll hold out for the inevitable 3D Extended Edition BluRay Director's Cut.

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    1. Re:Digital remaster scheme by grub · · Score: 4, Funny


      I'll hold out for the inevitable 3D Extended Edition BluRay Director's Cut.

      Rumour has it George Lucas is working on a version in which Michael Collins steps on the Moon first.

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    2. Re:Digital remaster scheme by TheLink · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better Collins than Jar Jar...

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    3. Re:Digital remaster scheme by Schemat1c · · Score: 3, Funny

      Rumour has it George Lucas is working on a version in which Michael Collins steps on the Moon first.

      I can see the t-shirts now, "Neil stepped first!"

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  4. Re:Let me be the first to say it by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Funny

    I heard on Slashdot that Lucas is remaking this in 3D, next year.

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  5. NASA erased the origionals? did I read that right? by lastrogue · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wait... WTF why would NASA "erase" the originals? wouldn't that seem like too momentous of an occasion to destroy???!?!?!?! Or am I miss-reading something here?

  6. Aliens? by brycethorup · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this mean I finally get to see the shootout with the aliens they had? Sweet!

  7. Re:Urm by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 30th anniversary of what? The 10-year reunion?

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  8. Old men by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An old man, sitting in his couch, watching himself in an old college football match. Repeating over and over the twenty seconds where he scored a touchdown.

    But the old man isn't really old. He has a strong, young body. He could stand up and go play another football match. Score another touchdown. But he's too tired, so he'll just play the old tape. Over and over again.

    1. Re:Old men by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bravo. That just says it all.

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    2. Re:Old men by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I'm reading the parent post correctly, he's basically saying that rather than go out for another moon landing today, we can instead sit back and reminisce over glory days of the past. It's nothing to do with the video itself, but rather the attitude behind showing the video to the public.

      Well screw that. Lets make history by looking toward the future rather then looking back which accomplishes little to nothing in the process.

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  9. Warning by reitton · · Score: 2, Funny

    This video may not be suitable for kids under the age of 70

  10. NASA....in Australia!? by kick6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why is the first public broadcast of remastered footage of an American moon trip being broadcast in Australia. This makes no sense.

    1. Re:NASA....in Australia!? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why is the first public broadcast of remastered footage of an American moon trip being broadcast in Australia. This makes no sense.

      Why do we keep getting stupid questions from people who have obviously not bothered to RTFA? No, I'm not going to tell you either, it's too early in the morning to be nice.

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    2. Re:NASA....in Australia!? by icegreentea · · Score: 3, Informative

      The source tapes were from Australia. The highest quality video from the moon landing were in Australia. Since they decided to land on the moon early, the US was under the horizon, so they transmitted to Australia instead.

  11. Isn't that summary wrong? by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 3, Informative

    They are saying that only a VHS tape of the landing is left, and that all the original tapes were erased/lost/destroyed. But this new tape is FROM one of those original tapes, albeit from the Sydney archives who relayed the data since they were part of the line-of-sight network to communicate with the astronauts.

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    1. Re:Isn't that summary wrong? by dzfoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not really. It's like Leonardo himself deciding that, rather than buy a new canvas, he will reuse one of his old paintings--perhaps that old one with the very impressive landscape that won him all those awards and praise, but which is mostly forgotten in his attic by now--and paint over it a picture of a chick he saw walk by the market yesterday, with a sensual and intriguing smile.

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  12. Who did it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "We discovered, to our horror, that in the 1970s and 80s NASA had taken the tapes in the national archive and erased them all to record other missions."

    It's an archive, right? There will be records of who did this, yes? And you have the death penalty in the US - which you tend to otherwise use for inconsequential stuff mostly?

    1. Re:Who did it? by CaptainLard · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And you have the death penalty in the US - which you tend to otherwise use for inconsequential stuff mostly?

      Yeah we in the US tend to use the death penalty all willy nilly, mainly on those who put long term planning into their well thought out murders. But I'm sure you didn' t know any of the victims so you personally could say those crimes were inconsequential.

      ...not saying the death penalty its right, just saying the US isn't all like the worlds caricature of Texas. Aside from their ridiculous school text book mandates, neither is all of Texas for that matter.

  13. Re:NASA erased the origionals? did I read that rig by pavon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, the idiots reused the tape.

  14. TFA is wrong by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Informative

    At the time of the Moon landing, three stations - Goldstone in California, Honeysuckle Creek in Canberra, and Parkes in New South Wales - simultaneously recorded the events onto magnetic data tape. The direct recordings were not of broadcast quality, says John, so they had to set up a regular TV camera pointed at a small black-and-white TV screen in the observatory to obtain higher-quality images that could be relayed to television stations around the world.

    They didn't use the TV camera to obtain a higher quality, but to convert from the odd signal used by NASA [1] to PAL/NTSC.

    1: the nonstandard TV signals were used to make video transmission possible in the small amount of bandwidth available.

  15. Careful with the headset feed by johnw · · Score: 3, Funny

    As long as the Australian presenter doesn't announce that it was Buzz Aldrin who got off the ladder first.

    1. Re:Careful with the headset feed by tg123 · · Score: 2, Informative

      As long as the Australian presenter doesn't announce that it was Buzz Aldrin who got off the ladder first.

      LOL funny but your also so mean

      for those who missed it this is the reference.
      http://www.thecelebritytruth.com/wrong-winner-announced-australias-top-model/0019829

      The poor girl you won ... opps sorry wrong person

  16. Higher Quality?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Really? in my opinion it looks like crap. The original one has some noise, and a hell of a lot more detail, look at the moon's surface around the rover compared to this "higher quality" remaster. There is almost no detail there, just a gray blur.

    It literally looks like they just removed the little bit of noise, which i really didn't see a problem with, and then ran it though a soft focus filter

  17. Abuse by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Funny

    This time George Lucas has gone too far into the star wars prequel territory

  18. Re:Let me be the first to say it by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear in this version Buzz Aldrin shoots first.

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  19. Re:NASA erased the origionals? did I read that rig by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SOP.

    Tapes where expensive and took a while to get. SOP was to reuse the tapes.
    Hey, you wouldn't want them wasting tax dollars on a tape that would just be sitting around, would you?
    It's important to remember the context. From pretty much everyones point of view, they would be going to the moon so often it wouldn't be a big deal.

    And they where only reused one they had been ensured it had been taped for broad cast. That meant there where many copies in many formats. well 3 formats I think.

    There was also a format issue in the 80's the made them reuse tapes for a period. IIRC

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  20. I'm not impressed by erroneus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know "they always intended for it to be brighter and in high definition but they didn't have the budget to do it at the time..." Call me when they announce that it is being remade in 3D.

  21. Moon Landing SE? by mea37 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "high-quality and brighter images of Neil Armstrong stepping off the ladder"

    Oh, good, the remastered moon landing. In a year or two we'll get the special edition, with all new special effects. The once-lifeless moon will have all manner of alien life. Probably the golf ball will swing first at the astronauts.

    Additional footage of the astronauts' training will be released, but it will be unpopular with fans of the oringal moon landing. Much of the criticism will focus on a goofy sidekick they meet, who somehow seems to play an important role in spite of being a babbling fool.

    Later there will be a DVD release with the SE footage alongside the video as it originally aired. HD and 3D versions will follow eventually.

  22. Fixed that for you by albertid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Digitally rerendered footage of the moon landing, ...

  23. Re:Urm by Provocateur · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The landing was in 1969. The OP has problems with Math and/or time. If he happens to be from this planet.

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  24. remastered? by KnightBlade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does the original image on the left, in the video actually look sharper to anyone else than the remastered one? I find the remastered one looks blurry. :S

  25. It's understandable. by mosb1000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People believe it was faked because they don't want to believe we were capable of something 40 years ago that we are not capable of today. They want to have hope for the future, but the moon landing is an obvious sign of decline (or rather, the fact that it happened so long and we can't do it today is an obvious sign of decline).

    1. Re:It's understandable. by Richy_T · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, we could get there again. It's just that these days, if we want to go to a derelict hell-hole, we have Detroit.