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Jaguar's Hybrid Jet-Powered Concept Car

An anonymous reader writes "Jaguar has developed a hybrid car that runs on gas turbines. The range extended vehicle usually uses four electric motors (one on each wheel) plus a lithium-ion battery pack for propulsion, but can achieve a performance boost from a pair of gas turbines mounted in the rear. Cnet UK reports the car can do 0-60 mph in 3.4 sec. (and 50-90 mph in 2.3 sec.) and reach 205 mph while emitting less CO2 than a Toyota Prius."

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  1. Should be reliable by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This thing has a dozen or so moving parts. Granted, the turbines move pretty damn fast but electric motors and generators are extremely reliable. Four indepenent motors and two turbines menas we have redundancy on top of that.

    I'm a little suspicious of the emission claims though. How much of that is from plugin? I can't imagine turbine->electric->battery->motors is an efficient drive train.

    1. Re:Should be reliable by sadtrev · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Rover gas-turbine car was almost ready for launch (in the mid-'60s). It was cleaner, quieter and potentially cheaper than cars with conventional reciprocating engine designs.
      It did have two major disadvantages - unreliability due to brittleness of the heat exchanger, and
      - the tendency to singe the paint off cars that approached too close to the exhaust.

    2. Re:Should be reliable by CyberDragon777 · · Score: 5, Funny

      the tendency to singe the paint off cars that approached too close to the exhaust.

      A car that automatically enforces the proper following distance? I want one!

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      We both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
  2. Re:Very Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unlike an American V8, which continues to put out awesome amounts of power even after it breaks.

  3. Re:Very Cool by Suki+I · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unlike an American V8, which continues to put out awesome amounts of power even after it breaks.

    Or a European V12 that generates massive repair bills, running or not.

  4. The problem with safety systems like that by CFD339 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...tends to be that by definition, they only kick in when something is broken.

    I used to climb a little bit. We'd be up on a thousand feet of exposure with just a thin nylon harness and some carefully tied rope. Now I'm a firefighter and have done some rope rescue classes. We don't even go on a steep hill without a far more complex (and heavy) harness system. It seemed ridiculous to me, but it was explained that if the usual way of doing things had worked then we wouldn't have been called in. Something has gone wrong, and we can't always know what it was.

    The same problem exists, to us, for cars like the Prius. Lots of very high voltage cables running through parts of the car we would usually cut through to get someone out. In theory, there are safety systems that will cut power to those cables after an accident. In practice, what if the accident affected those cut-off systems? There's a manual cut-off -- I'd have to check the reference material we have, but I think it's under the back seat. If I could get to something under the back seat, I wouldn't need to cut the car apart.

    When things are broken, they're ...well....broken. The safety systems may or may not be affected. I think the issue in this case is that broken at 65 miles per hour is one thing, and broken at 205 miles per hour is something else entirely.

    I think if a car that was moving that fast being propelled by four independent motors suddenly found itself being propelled by thrust that was no longer balanced and centered -- I wouldn't want to be down range for quite some distance.

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    1. Re:The problem with safety systems like that by tvsjr · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's frightening that someone modded you insightful.

      Vehicle extrications are death-traps for firefighters. Just to name a few issues:
      Shocks in bumpers, prone to send the bumper flying off the car at knee height
      Rollover bars, prone to release at the wrong time and pummel anything in its path (already killed more than one FF)
      Chemical airbags, which can cause injury or burns
      Stored-gas airbags and their cylinders and tubing - not good to cut into a ~3Kpsi cylinder
      High-voltage cables in hybrids
      Magnesium and springs in steering columns
      Hood and tailgate struts, prone to overheating and exploding
      Fuel tank, fuel lines, etc.
      And more...

      Our bunker gear is insulating... from HEAT, not electricity. I carry a few different types of gloves (structural, extrication, work gloves for hose rolling) - none of them are rubber or insulating from electricity either. There is nothing in a firefighter's typical equipment that will provide any significant protection from electricity. Cutting a high-voltage cable in a hybrid will result in significant injury at best... death at worst.