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OLPC Gets $5.6M Grant To Develop Tablet With Marvell

tugfoigel writes "According to Xconomy, 'The One Laptop per Child Foundation and Santa Clara, CA-based semiconductor maker Marvell have cemented a partnership announced last spring, with Marvell agreeing to provide OLPC with $5.6 million to fund development of its next generation tablet computer. Nicholas Negroponte says the deal, signed in the past week or so but not previously announced, runs through 2011. "Their money is a grant to the OLPC Foundation to develop a tablet or tablets based on their chip," he says. The OLPC tablet ... is known as the XO 3 because it represents the third-generation of the XO laptop currently sold by OLPC (the foundation scrapped plans for its e-book-like XO 2 computer and is moving straight to the tablet). ... The deal, he says, means the tablet's development is "fully funded."'"

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  1. Dang, not Marvel comics by LetterRip · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone else disappointed it wasn't a Marvel comics themed OLPC :)

    1. Re:Dang, not Marvel comics by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since these things run on batteries, I think it would be a DC comics themed OLPC anyway.

  2. And we need this why? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The OLPC project went nowhere. They took money and work from the community, then they sold themselves to microsoft, and achieved none of all their goals. The project went nowhere.

    There are already awesome tablets like the aPad that exist right now and retail for less than 200 dollars. I'm sure you could drive them below 100 if you built enough and bought them altogether.

    Why are we still listening to the OLPC's pipe dreams about developing hardware? They already proved that they can't get anything done, and that they will sell out if necessary. Want to do something? The product you want is already out there. Buy it, drive its price down, and start delivering.

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    1. Re:And we need this why? by RocketRabbit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OLPC should be a Linux distro that runs on any major architecture, and is slim enough that you can throw it on a used computer from 1998 and run it without issue. It should also run on the glut of shitty quality me-too tablets that have been "announced" since the iPad came out.

      What they need is something made of metal, with a metal screen protector, that opens up to expose a solar panel. That way the kids can prop the thing up in the window while they are outside playing, and when they get home it is all charged up and ready to go. Make it waterproof and you have a real winner.

    2. Re:And we need this why? by RocketRabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, if Sugar on a Stick already exists, why are they fucking around with hardware?

      In a lot of poor areas, power is still available. There are a nearly infinite number of used, but still fully capable computers out there. Maybe the OLPC project should be helping schools generate power and shipping them used computers by the palate.

      OLPC jumped the shark when they bowed down to MS. How are kids supposed to learn unbounded when they have to deal with Windows? They are making users out of these kids, when they should be making explorers out of them.

    3. Re:And we need this why? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Informative

      I used an OLPC for the first time at a free software event in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, The units they had were on loan from a school. It is a fantastic machine. Very rugged and attractive to children. I would probably prefer a stock ubuntu install instead of using the sugar UI, but the hardware is open so you can do that.

      I think its a shame more people didn't get an opportunity to buy them.

    4. Re:And we need this why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's a Bad Analogy. Sometimes the tool is clearly broken. Or sometimes it's clearly a case of being forced to use the wrong tool and then being called a sore loser when you fail. Microsoft loves forcing everyone to buy a bag of hammers when what they really need is one hammer, one screwdriver, and one saw.

    5. Re:And we need this why? by Obfuscant · · Score: 3, Informative
      I think its a shame more people didn't get an opportunity to buy them.

      Lots of people had an opportunity to buy them. "Buy one Give one", for example.

      The problem was OLPC was vaporware, at least as far as being able to provide the "buy one" that I tried to buy. They charged my credit card the day I ordered, then tried dragging the delivery date out until after the time limit for contesting the charge. They lied to me about delivery dates about three times, claiming they had them in stock one day, then two days later admitting they'd been out of stock for a month.

      I'd have cut them a lot of slack if they'd been honest about being able to provide what they charged me for, and didn't charge me until it shipped, but they shot themselves in both feet the way they did things.

      If they've gotten their act together now, good for them. Once burned, twice shy.

    6. Re:And we need this why? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sounds like manufacturing let them down. Also they were first into the cheap netbook market so there may have been a burst of demand.

    7. Re:And we need this why? by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Microsoft pitch was simpler:

      We will sell you an OS and an office suite, and give you a huge bribe.

      The rest is up to you.

      Fixed that for you.

    8. Re:And we need this why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >The XO targeted grade school kids - in third-world countries. Think Reader Rabbit not hacking the kernel.

      Really? When I was in grade school we did LOGO and on the Atari and Apple 8-bits.

      You expect all students to be average and without curiosity. Kids are really smart, and have more aptitude than most adults.

    9. Re:And we need this why? by Raenex · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sounds like manufacturing let them down.

      You can't blame the manufacturers for charging a credit card without shipping the product.

  3. Re:OLPC by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When you are satisfying consumer demand, is it caving?

  4. OLPC software isn't attractive to parents by feenberg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The good news is that the Marvel chip won't support Windows.

    The bad news is that the child with an OLPC while she may learn to do art on her computer, won't learn to do anything helpful in any labor market on earth. With a tablet, she won't even learn to touch type. I know that the project wants to prepare her for more self-actualizing career, such as poet, designer, president or CIO, very few will have that opportunity if they can't get an entry level job in the urban sector.

    1. Re:OLPC software isn't attractive to parents by simplexion · · Score: 2

      How is the parent comment interesting?

      The child-driven education
      As long as they have access to information especially access to the internet they will learn a lot. That video IS interesting.

    2. Re:OLPC software isn't attractive to parents by LingNoi · · Score: 2

      The OLPC gives a child in a rural area an opportunity to have a better education then otherwise.

      I live in Thailand where news came out recently that 80% of teachers failed their own subjects they were teaching. Books get donated to rural schools however because all the books are donated they aren't the same so it makes teaching a class incredibly difficult. Knowing English here significantly increases your chances of getting a better job or education however there are no good english teachers in villages because no one wants to live and work in bumsville, center of nowhere or in the south where there is a chance you'll get shot.

      An OLPC project here would do great things:
      - You could load it with PDFs so that the whole class could be using the same materials
      - You could load it with English lesson audio so that children learn how to pronounce words correctly even if their teacher doesn't know english.

      There are lots more examples however just these two things would be a huge increase in education for this country.

  5. Re:OLPC by Rogerborg · · Score: 2

    When you are satisfying consumer demand, is it caving?

    Depends on your point of view. From the point of view of their (ex) development community, most of whom walked away when they fastened on to the Microsoft's teat, yup, they caved like a nun bluffing on a pair of nines.

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  6. Re:Details? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I will admit off the bat that my info is about 9 months old, and I know that Marvell was working on fixing the main problem of their SoC, namely it's 16 bit bus width. While the core itself is really fast (I'm sure you've been shown the raw performance metrics), the limited memory bandwidth means that the CPU is idling most of the time waiting for instructions to cache. Once they are cached, as in most "core benchmarks", it turns out performance at almost Atom speeds.

    Marvell had a specific niche market in mind when it built the chip, but that market hasn't really taken off. They are trying to shop it around to find other markets it might stick, but as a general purpose chip it can't hold its own against the low end of the market on price or the high end on performance.

    For what it was designed for (on the fly image processing and display), it is really great. The image coprocessor and video pipeline is much better than the i.MX5x's, but if you ran actual OS benchmarks, you'd see Marvell lose their advantage pretty quickly. In an industrial setting, Freescale has the advantage since their main focus is on markets where ruggedization is required.

    It could be different now. They should have revved the chip at least twice by now, so the above could be all old info.

  7. In short, you're an idiot. by HeckRuler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did you miss the part where they put out 1.5 million laptops?
    Yeah, a $100 target would have been better. Twice as good in fact.
    Sticking strictly with open and free is debatable. If they can wheedle a few million out of MS in exchange for some empty promices, so much the better.
    The product that they want IS the XO. It has a lot of nice features that other cheap laptops don't.

    Do they really need a tablet version? Shrug, I dunno. But to say that the OLPC project went nowhere is a bold faced lie. Just because you don't see them in walmart doesn't mean much. (but yeah, I'd like to see them in retail too.)

  8. Re:This is wonderful news! by wonkavader · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Heck yeah. The OLPC guys came out with a neato box for $200, and you had to buy one buy buying two (on for you, one for a kid). They missed their mark by something like a factor of two, but definitely came up with a bunch of good ideas for an educational device, and a cheap one, at that.

    Sure they'll miss the mark on this one, too. But it'll still push the industry downward. It won't take much innovation to get prices even lower, but it will take some. OLPC will provide some of that.

  9. Re:OLPC by RocketRabbit · · Score: 2

    In this case, it wasn't "consumers" who wanted Windows on the XO, it was Microsoft and their local lobbyists.

    Windows is a maintenance nightmare. These kids would end up as part of a botnet faster than you can say Ballmer.