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Firefighters Let House Burn Because Owner Didn't Pay Fee

Dthief writes "From MSNBC: 'Firefighters in rural Tennessee let a home burn to the ground last week because the homeowner hadn't paid a $75 fee. Gene Cranick of Obion County and his family lost all of their possessions in the Sept. 29 fire, along with three dogs and a cat. "They could have been saved if they had put water on it, but they didn't do it," Cranick told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann. The fire started when the Cranicks' grandson was burning trash near the family home. As it grew out of control, the Cranicks called 911, but the fire department from the nearby city of South Fulton would not respond.'"

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  1. Re:You're kidding, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Easy solution: Put out the fire, then hit him with a massive fine. Say 10x the actual cost of fighting the fire.

  2. Won't anyone think of the animals? by oh-dark-thirty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Animal cruelty charges should be brought, they allowed 4 pets to die...frankly I would be more pissed about that than losing my stuff.

  3. Re:Nope, not kidding. by weiserfireman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hate dealing with subscription districts. One of the reasons why they still survive in my area is that we don't have authority to set and enforce fire codes there. Keeping the Ebil Goberment out of their lives is the goal of some of the people in the area.

    That said, I think the solution to handling non-payers is to inform their Homeowners Insurance and/or mortgage holder about the requirement. Guarenteed if those people knew about the situation they would make sure the fee got paid.

  4. Re:You're kidding, right? by DJRumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why does this remind me of the health care argument? People claiming that this sort of things is optional and they shouldn't have to pay, knowing in their minds that it's only a matter of time before they DO need to rely on that service. I have no sympathy for this family. They should have been responsible citizens and paid their dues just like everyone else, instead of assuming they could freeload off the system in an emergency.

  5. Re:Well Duh by osgeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Doesn't work for some idiot who made a really poor chain of decisions including not paying promptly for his protection and burning garbage near his house?

    Sounds like it worked well for society. Lots of people are checking that they made their fire payments in that county today.

  6. Hey idiot grandson, did you learn your lesson? by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've seen a lot on here about the unconscionable conduct of the fire department (and yes, they were douche-nozzles about the whole thing). What I haven't seen is commentary on why this guy's idiot grandson was burning rubbish in the first place. Use legitimate solid-waste disposal (landfill or, better yet, recycling) but don't burn the stuff! Not only can it cause property destruction, but it's also a health hazard if plastics are being burned and people happen to inhale the noxious fumes. Too bad this poor guy had to lose his home because his grandson is a fucktard.

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  7. what about clerical errors? by danlip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder how long it will be until we hear they let someone's house burn down due to a clerical error,
    i.e. they actually paid but the computer says they didn't. Or the 911 operator types in the wrong
    address when they call. Seems sure to happen sooner or later.

  8. Re:No, that's not it at all by alta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    pets fireman's life. Just ask the child of a dead firefighter.

    Incidently, firefighters don't put out fires from the outside. If they fight it, they go in. There's no halfassing it.

    If people can just pay the cost of the visit then everyone would choose to do so. At that point we're back to private fire departments. Look where that got us (private firefighters were becoming arsonists)

    It's quite fucked up when you, AS AN ADULT choose not to pay something that's about .0001% the value of your house to keep it from burning down. If you don't think your shit is worth $75/year then WHY THE FUCK would a firefighter think it's worth their life?

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