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Best Buy Unapologetic About Charging For PS3 Firmware Updates
donniebaseball23 writes "After discovering that electronics retailer Best Buy was charging ignorant customers $30 for the 'service' of installing updated firmware on PS3s, IndustryGamers got word from the company on its policy. Best Buy sees no problem with charging for this convenience, even though it's something Sony provides to PS3 owners completely free. 'While many gamers can handle firmware upgrades easily on their own, those customers who do want help can get it from Geek Squad, and we continue to evaluate this offering to ensure it meets their needs. The service goes beyond a firmware updates, and includes user account setup, parental control setup and other components,' a representative said."
hey retards, you're paying for labor
if you pay for a firmware update, you deserve to have $30 taken away from you
sony will do it for free if you send it in for 6-8 weeks. eat that
A company making a killing on a service sees no problem with offering it? I am shocked. Shocked, I say!
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Are you appalled by the charging or the ignorance? The entire IT service industry works on this principle.
So, if my grandma took in her computer to pay to have them do a defrag and update some drivers, maybe run a q-tip across the DVD drive laser--all things that she could do for free at home--she's getting robbed?
I don't get the controversy here, unless BB was lying about what they were doing.
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How is this different from paying someone to install/upgrade an OS or applications, remove viruses, install a hard drive, add RAM, upgrade a video card, etc? All of these things can be simply done by an end user with a small amount of instruction.
Or changing the oil in your car, or washing your car, or the many simple things we pay other people to do for us?
so go to another store, let best buy charge whatever they want, and let consumers and the market show them their sins.
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You order pizza instead of cooking it yourself for EXACTLY the same reason. Cooking pizza is extremely easy. So is installing the PS3's updates.
Pizza requires raw ingredients, time to prepare those ingredients, and time to clean up from the preparation. This situation is more like you have a frozen pizza ready to go in your freezer. Would you take your frozen pizza to a store and pay $30 for someone to put it in the microwave for 5 minutes for you? That's about the level of effort required here.
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In the pre-installation case? They're selling open-box hardware at premium prices? And yes, it should be considered open-box, because who knows what they did once it was opened? They could have dropped it, lost cables and manuals, swiped free software/coupons, etc. Once the manufacturer's seal is broken, you can't be 100% sure what you're getting and thus the merchandise should be discounted appropriately.
OMG! How dare a money making company actually charge people money for providing a service to people who can do it for free!! /sarcasm
Is that kind of response expected by the submitter?
Seriously, for a site filled with geeks who think they are smarter than the general populace, this article FAIL on so many aspects. Just to name a few
1. Economics 101 - price is determined by supply and demand. If there are people who are willing to pay $30 for someone to do something for them, it is not a company being evil for providing said service for $30, even if it cost the company nothing. Cost does not determine the price, the cost of business only determines how much profit the company can make. If you are pissed about that, go ahead and start your own company to offer this service for free. (much in the same spirit of "write your own patch" in OSS)
2. Business has a fixed cost, in rent, in salary, in opportunity costs. So it is never really free to help people to install updates.
3. Guess what? Some people value their time at more than $30 for half-hour, and will be willing to pay $30 to someone if it will save 30mins time and headache. Not everyone is living in their mom's basement with nothing to do and no money to spend most of the day.
4. Grow up. Most "service industry" is based doing things for people that they can do for themselves, in some cases for free, and that includes a large portion of the IT industry.
5. From the comments so far, most /.er are more intelligent than the submitter.
Oliver.
It gets worse! There's places that charge you for making dinner! That's right! There's actually people who go out to these places to have meals made FOR them! WHAT FOOLS!
You probably never worked in the IT industry catering to the consumer. I used to work as an onsite computer tech and our customers would gladly pay a few so that we would do the "complicated computer stuff" for them. One guy payed me $95/hr to come out to his house every few weeks just to install Windows updates. He watched me every time and knew how to do it but he still did not want to do it himself.
BestBuy is providing a service which some consumers appreciate. If you are not one of them then shop somewhere else.
Everyone who buys Wild Hunt will receive 16 specially prepared DLCs absolutely for free, regardless of platform.
Not to mention that he includes in that "idiots" label people who don't have an Internet connection and so cannot download the update.
Too many people on here consider anyone who is not familiar with their own chosen area of expertise to be an idiot, while conveniently ignoring the huge gaps in their own knowledge.
It's official. Most of you are morons.
Except you still bought the drive from them, so pretty clearly it isn't a death knell for Best Buy, but rather a sign that even when someone sees the kind of shit they're pulling, they'll STILL be a customer. I can understand if you absolutely NEEDED that hard drive then and there and this was literally the ONLY place within 100 miles where you could get it, but to do what you did and then still buy it - it doesn't send them any kind of message, and it definitely does not bode badly for their chances to survive.
Since I can't tell them apart, I treat all ACs as the same person.
I used to work for the neurology department. I was, literally, working for brain surgeons. Smart, smart people. They did high end research, in addition to surgery, they all held joint positions at the hospital and university. However only one of them knew anything more than basics about computers. They rest just didn't care. Computers were a tool to get their job done, that was all. They didn't learn about them because they didn't want or need to, that's what they paid me for. Also because of this they did whatever I said, easy bunch of people to work with. I'd say "You need X," and the answer was "Buy it." I told them "With the new system do things this way," and they all did. They were used to the idea that in medicine, when an expert tells you what it to be done, you do it. I was the computer expert, in that small domain my word was law.
None of them were stupid by any stretch of the imagination, just very, very focused. They did what they did well, and relied on others to do what they did well.
I do think too many computer people decide that anyone without computer skills is an "idiot" as though we should all have the same skill set. Can't deal with a command line? Can't compile a program from source? Can't write your own scripts? Oh you are a moron. EVERYONE should do that... Of course the person saying that is often unable to cook even a simple meal from base ingredients for themselves, or explain the basics of colour matching and so on. They've decided that their field is the important one, and everything else is irrelevant.