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Apple vs. Google TVs

This SFGate article begins, "Apple and Google just kicked off the first round of their battle for the living room. Based on what we've seen so far, Apple is in the lead. It's still early, and this could change, but it looks like Apple is making an all-around smarter bet than Google." I haven't tried out the Google device yet. The Apple unit is decent, but it's so focused on TV rental that it makes it difficult to work with an existing library of media; between the transcoding, and tedious menu navigation... well, it's a good thing it's only $99. It's a dang cheap way to get your stuff on your bigger screens, provided you're willing to jump through the necessary hoops.

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  1. Based on what we've seen so far by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Based on what we've seen so far, Apple is in the lead"

    Really? Based on what I've seen so far, regular television manufacturers are in the lead.

  2. TV? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's that? Is it some new form of torrent delivery system?

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  3. Re:Missing the point. by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Content Playback: Ten years ago, it was .MPGs and .AVIs. Five years ago, a DiVX at sufficiently high resolution could drag a single-core CPU to the ground. You really think that Google TV's gonna be able to render 3D-mega-HD-whatever in 2015-2020? :)

    And you really think your TV that is 1080p is going to support 4320p content when its released? So long as the GoogleTV box can play 1080p back on your 1080p TV its not going to matter if it can play 4320p or whatever content because the extra resolution would be lost because your TV is only capable of supporting 1080p.

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  4. Prey.. meet bait. by EasyTarget · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's a good thing it's only $99

    Oh no it isn't....

    That's merely the entrance fee.. Admission to individual attractions, food, beverage and use of toilets is all extra.

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  5. Re:Based on what I saw in the article by commodore64_love · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >>>why are we talking AppleTV? Mac mini's are a little more expensive

    Little? The article says the V2 AppleTV is just $99. MacMini + Boxee is about 8 times more. As for the picture, Steve Jobs can't help that he got old. Someday you & I will look the same.

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  6. Re:Wait for it... by Myopic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, the important thing is that you have found a way to feel superior to those people, who feel superior to you. It's a wonderful cycle where everybody wins.

  7. Re:3 Menu Clicks by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Plugging in one HDMI cable.

  8. A little more? by wiredog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    About 7 times the cost.

  9. Re:slanted author by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is some rambling about input 1 and 2 and I'm not quite sure what he is getting at with that but the conclusion was Apple uses input 2 and that made it easier and therefore better.

    The point he's trying to make is that Google seems to be trying to get in the middle of your primary TV viewing-- I gather from the article that it's supposed to sit between your cable box and your TV. He's saying that might be scary for some people, since part of the continued success of cable TV is that it's "the devil you know" and people are comfortable with it, so they may not want Google screwing around with that experience.

    Meanwhile, the AppleTV (in the author's view, at least) is not supposed to screw with your cable TV experience. Instead, it's an additional device, perhaps taking the place of a DVD player. So the author is saying that this is less scary, and probably more likely to work.

    So that's what the "input 1 vs. input 2" thing is about.

    There is no technical content and no specs or options are even considered in his comparison of which is better.

    In fairness, it's probably not the technical specs that are going to make these devices more or less successful. Qualitative experience and availability of content are much more important for most people.

  10. Re:the transcoding... by dzfoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not true. From the AppleTV web page:

    Audio formats supported:

    • HE-AAC (V1), AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), protected AAC (from iTunes Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3, and 4), Apple Lossless, AIFF, and WAV; Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound pass-through

    If what you want is for Apple to support specifically FLAC, then say so. Do not taint your comment with inferences that Apple only supports its own proprietary standards.

    Many of the standards supported by iOS devices in general, and AppleTV in particular, are indeed what is already out there on the web and supported by many other major consumer device vendors, including Television Sets and media players.

    They may not be royalty-free or have an open source implementation available, but that is hardly the same as trying to get the web to conform to Apple's desires. Besides, this is a device to be used with a TV, not a web browser.

            -dZ.

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  11. Re:3 Menu Clicks by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > Getting content INTO iTunes is as simple as choosing File->Add To Library

    No it isn't.

    First you have to convert it into something that iTunes will accept. Apple is very picky in this regard.

    Claims like these would work better if there weren't MythTV users with obsolete Mac minis lying around.

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  12. Bittorrent + simple TV media player by loufoque · · Score: 3, Insightful

    is all you should ever need
    I personally use one of those devices from Western Digital which are $50.

    Why would you want to purchase crappy VoD services full of DRM and only providing a handful of stuff when you can get whatever you want and more in true high quality and without restrictions?