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French ISP Refuses To Send Out Infringement Notices

An anonymous reader writes "Last month it was clear that French ISPs were not at all happy about the whole three strikes Hadopi process in France. Now that the 'notice' process has started, with Hadopi sending out notices to 10,000 people per day, it's hit a bit of a stumbling block. The French ISP named 'Free' has apparently figured out a bit of a loophole that allows it to not send out notices and protect its subscribers. Specifically, the law requires ISPs to reveal user info to Hadopi, but it does not require them to alert their users. But, the law does say that only users who are alerted by their ISP can be taken to court to be disconnected. In other words, even if Free is handing over user info, so long as it doesn't alert its users (which the law does not mandate), then those users cannot be kicked off the internet via Hadopi."

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  1. Re:10,000 users a day... by GooberToo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Your argument is wrong, plain and simply wrong.

    Post like yours are interesting but inherently flawed. So your saying their album wasn't pirated. Not one bit? If the answer is yes, please provide some proof because that seems so extremely unlikely. If the answer is no, it doesn't change anything at all. I've never read a single account anywhere which states IP is no longer purchased, ever, and piracy is the sole form of adoption. Is that your position?

    Basically, no matter how you look at it, your post is interesting, but hardly a cure in the least. So long as a majority are pirating, the IP holders will continue to look to the law for some form of relief. I honestly have absolutely no idea why you believe your data point addresses the central problem.

    Which means we're back to my original post; which was tongue in cheek, but you seem to have missed that too. It means they have two choices. One, continue to create more and more draconian laws. Two, stop attempting release music (you don't seriously believe that would happen - do you...exactly).

    The point of my statement was to stress how piracy is forcing extremely behavior. Pirates are leaving no other options. Sure there are some interesting stories of limited success in spite of piracy. There are some examples of massive success even with piracy. But making less money or in many cases, the flat out cause of failure (lack of profit) is directly associated with piracy and no one believes that acceptable.

    Tell me, if you worked and never got paid for your efforts, would you be okay with that? That's basically the core problem with piracy. Let's say you work for ten people in a collective. Of those ten people, only four to six actually pay you. The other six to four say, hey, you were already paid - what are you complaining about? And that's the problem with the pro-pirate platform. I've never met a pirate who wasn't fully of hypocrisy on the subject. Piracy isn't a problem unless its happening to them. And only then, it demands immediate action requiring ever more draconian solutions.