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Virginia AG Ken Cuccinelli's AGW Witch Hunt Continues
eldavojohn writes "A letter from Representative Edward Markey outlines Ken Cuccinelli's latest civil investigative demand targeting 39 people instead of just Michael Mann. You may recall that the original investigation was quashed by a judge, but the latest request demands records from people seemingly unrelated to Mann, including an Indian glaciologist. The Bad Astronomer calls Cuccinelli out in a similar manner and lists Cuccinelli's doubts about Mann's papers, including, 'Specifically, but without limitation, some of the conclusions of the papers demonstrate a complete lack of rigor regarding the statistical analysis of the alleged data, meaning that the result reported lacked statistical significance without a specific statement to that effect.' The school that hosted the research announced the new investigation, and the Union of Concerned Scientists accuses him of harassing scientists."
Any questions?
I have one. How do we get the vested interests out of the media and the political arena so that a proper, unbiased and informed debate can occur under the gaze of the general public? Take the (corporate owned) media and the (may as well be corporate owned) political parties out of the equation, and there would be almost no dispute that climate change is happening.
Satire is lost on neo-cons & the fanatically religious.
There is a war going on for your mind.
No, the one where they manipulated the statistical analysis programming to create false results, causing a hockey stick graph to form no matter what the inputs were.
Yes, we should all just embrace Marxism like the rest of the world. Only 200 million killed in the last century, surely the Tea Partiers will kill more than that.
Or something like that, I really don't understand you geniuses that hate the "tea party" for daring to suggest we have less debt and more freedom - not that I don't wonder where they were for the last 20 years.
WTF is an Attorney General doing investigating scientists. He's not qualified, and it's not within his mandate.
Isn't this taking the "jury of your peers" thing just a tiny bit too far? What's next, requiring Congress to ride motorcycles before they pass laws about highway safety? Is there no level where an attorney can hire his own experts to independently evaluate scientific data?
This reeks of you wanting them to hide something to me.
Look, this is our planet, our future, and thusly our data. All of it should be completely open to anyone and everyone. Trying to prop up professional barriers between the public and the actual research is just plain wrong. Especially when we're making it into a political, rather than personal, issue.
I'm not aware of the content of the investigation, but if it entails, you know, actually making them back up their claims in a way that every expert would agree, then I fail to see the outrage.
wanker.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Because of course, the only unbiased and honest people are those that agree with catastrophic AGW.
With that kind of basic premise, even legitimate investigations into behavior are going to be seen as witch hunts. The automatic assumption of good faith on your side and bad faith on the other side is what causes these kinds of things into escalating lawsuits - simply handing over the requested documents would've saved time, money, and apparently was impossible given the extreme level of distrust between the parties.
I guess I'd ask the following question of Mann's supporters - what evidence could possibly be uncovered by this investigation that would make it legitimate for you? If we got a hand written letter by Mann where he states "Those fools! I've completely faked my data, and they keep giving me more money, buahahaha!", would that exonerate Cuccinelli?
Excuse me? I quote "the deluded SUV drivers of the world" unquote? Maybe if somebody was proposing REAL solutions instead of cap and trade,
You want a "REAL solution"? Fine - let's kill all the Global Warming deniers.
Gee, I knew you didn't actually want a solution.
Fandroids hate facts.
Your logic and reason have no place on the internet, in politics, or anywhere in society.
Thinkers like you only stand in the way of liars and profiteers.
Actually I'd say it's much closer that the IPCC is trying to set agenda which will cover it's own, as well as make specific individuals an ass tone of money.
If you've been paying attention to the news or your papers the last while, you'd find that the majority of what the IPCC writes is junk full of factual and scientific errors. And shouldn't be used for anything but bird droppings. Take, leave, I couldn't care. But the second that the guys in climate research start going 'lulul sun has nothing to do with global warming,' I just want to start beating my head against the wall.
Oh and recent paper came along "sun has major impact on climate" ah whatever.
Om, nomnomnom...
Can you point me to a source that does not use Mannian methods that also returns a hockey stick shape? That is to say, minus the medieval warming period and/or a similar step change up to 1940 as we see from 1980 to 2000 (not post-2000, I might add). I don't think you can, because there isn't one that shows the 20th century to be unique, catastrophic or in any way unusual in the context of natural variability. At least that is to say, there isn't one where the figures haven't been "adjusted" (fiddled), or declines in various proxies "hidden".
The Chairman of the National Research Council also agreed with Wegman.
The kind of misinformation campaign that attempts to hide inconvenient declines in temperature proxies?
Anonymous Republican Coward, we are discussing Republican witch hunts, as the story says. If only we could actually pillory Republicans, we'd be putting their Salem, Mass style ideology to work on people who have earned it in modern times.
Of course Democrats are better at governing, as the last 2, 4, 10, 14, 18, 30, 38, 50, 58, 66, 78, 92 years have proven - depending on which Republican catastrophe era you want to compare to Democratic mediocrity surrounding it. But reality has a well-known liberal bias, so you surely don't want to compare anything. You just want to say something meaningless when you grab your turn to speak. That's the Republican ideology in a nutshell.
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