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UAE Says RIM Played Ball, Will Maintain Service

cgriffin21 writes "The United Arab Emirates will not suspend services on BlackBerry smartphones next week, following an agreement reached with BlackBerry maker Research In Motion that is said to comply with UAE policy. It'll be a relief for the roughly 500,000 BlackBerry users in the UAE, a turnaround on the planned Oct. 11 service suspension. In a brief statement, the UAE's Telecommunications Regulatory Authority said that BlackBerry services 'are now compliant with the UAE's telecommunications regulatory framework.'" The Guardian's coverage quotes an anonymous UAE university professor, who said, "The general opinion amongst the business expat community, westerners at least, has been for some time now that [the ban] wasn't going to happen. Call it a failure of imagination on their part, but no one could conceive of how the country could do something so counterproductive to the image they are trying to present primarily to the west. Was it posturing? To some extent."

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  1. There was never any doubt by clang_jangle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There was never any doubt RIM would cave. Nor any doubt that private communications are virtually nonexistent on this planet.

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    1. Re:There was never any doubt by phyrexianshaw.ca · · Score: 1

      That's kind of the trick though, nobody will talk about what happened.

      what we really need is somebody to talk, we'll never know what happened otherwise!

    2. Re:There was never any doubt by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      Pack up all my care and woe,
      Here I go,
      Singing low,
      Bye bye
      Blackberry!
      Where somebody waits for me,
      Sugar's sweet, so is she,
      Bye bye
      Blackberry!

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      Never been known to fail..."
  2. Funny by jgagnon · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's funny is that some day soon (-ish or could already be argued true in some cases), huge multi-national companies will be more powerful than governments.

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    1. Re:Funny by Pojut · · Score: 1

      Depending on the government and the corporation, I'd say that's definitely already true.

    2. Re:Funny by clang_jangle · · Score: 1

      Most (if not all) governments are merely the enforcement arms of cartels which are comprised of huge multi-national companies.

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    3. Re:Funny by smitty777 · · Score: 1

      Interesting observation. Ironically, the acronym finder includes Relative Importance Measure as one of the uses for the acronym RIM.

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    4. Re:Funny by masmullin · · Score: 1

      Major corporation just emailed me this

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJiYrRcfQo&feature=related
      [Synopsis: I am the law!]

  3. Re:*faaart* by clang_jangle · · Score: 1

    Of course not. Stallman can never get FP, he has to run a daemon to laucnh wget and then emails the downloaded page to him. Duh!

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  4. How does this affect visitors? by Lieutenant_Dan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can enlighten me ...

    If I take my BB over to UAE, I guess when I start roaming on their local service, all my BES communication will go through the local UAE RIM gateways, correct? The same gateways that the UAE will have some major visibility into. So that means that something that is private in the US/Canada will forego that confidentiality once I'm within their borders?

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    1. Re:How does this affect visitors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your email will still be encrypted by your corporate's key (not even RIM can decipher it). Your internet access, though, will have to be decrypted at the RIM servers (in this case RIM UAE servers) and the local govt (whether its US or UAE) will have access to it.

    2. Re:How does this affect visitors? by methamorph · · Score: 1

      If you are using BES and you have your BES server at your company then they won't be able to monitor the communication. It will be encrypted between your device and the BES server located in your company.

    3. Re:How does this affect visitors? by Existential+Wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you think your BB information is private in the US and probably Canada, you're living in cloud cuckoo land (wherever that is).

      There's no way the US would allow a public communications system they could not get into.

    4. Re:How does this affect visitors? by Kvasio · · Score: 1

      that is why encrypting stuff as a spam (pseudo-spam more precisely) might be the best way to send secret messages.
      (say - http://www.hoax-slayer.com/hidden-text-spam.html ).
      Need to parse through zillions of penis enlargement adverts would definitely piss off the any gov, including US.

    5. Re:How does this affect visitors? by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      Because if RIM affected US/EU/Canadian devices in such a way they would get sued.

  5. Relief? by ftobin · · Score: 1

    It'll be a relief for the roughly 500,000 BlackBerry users in the UAE [...]

    I'm not sure where this relief is supposed to come from. Most people are not relieved when its hinted that the UAE will now be capable of relieving them of personal and commercial secrets.

    1. Re:Relief? by Confusador · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really, can you blame us?

    2. Re:Relief? by enjerth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you have any compelling reason why I SHOULD trust my government? They are a bunch of strangers to me. I don't trust strangers in general.

      How about lawyers? Congress is largely comprised of lawyers. I REALLY don't trust lawyers.

    3. Re:Relief? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Uniquely American? LOL, I think you're describing your travel/communication habits.

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    4. Re:Relief? by masmullin · · Score: 1

      We know who you are and where you live Mr "Anonymous Coward" but it is a matter of Canadian Government policy to be too lazy to do anything contrary to your interests.

      We dont get paid $120,000 a year for something you know!

    5. Re:Relief? by jmac_the_man · · Score: 1

      Fun fact: Of the countries on the North American continent, only ONE uses a form of the word American in their name. By contrast, there are two countries in North America that call themselves the United States. The real name of Mexico (in English) is "The United Mexican States."

  6. Isn't the US pushing for the same? by ejtttje · · Score: 1

    Wasn't there just something in the news about Obama pressing for similar access? I wonder if the mighty US gov't will fair any better...

  7. And you believe this? by Linegod · · Score: 1

    Anything else that would have come out of the UAE, you would have held under suspicion. Doesn't the phrase "are now compliant with the UAE's telecommunications regulatory framework." set off any alarm bells to you?

    UAE adjusted their policies, RIM didn't change anything. Then the UAE grandstanded.

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  8. Crypto Mobile VOIP? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    The day when all endpoints encrypt all traffic to keep network operators from poking around in what is literally none of their business cannot come too soon. And the more tyrants (the US not excepted) insist on groping our data, the sooner that day will come.

    So where's the encrypted VOIP apps for Skype and Facebook, running on Android and/or iPhone?

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  9. Suptacular Double Stupendulous FAIL by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    Big double fail:

    (1) UAE for pulling this bullshit in front of the whole world, showing their true colors, after all these many years of trying to repair their reputation.

    RIM for giving the UAE despots a RIM job, for dollars. They did have the option of saying "No!"

    And to think I was getting close to doing an app for the Blackberry. Hmmm. Maybe the app will work on other mobile platforms, but the Blackberry version might just FAIL for some unknown reason...

    1. Re:Suptacular Double Stupendulous FAIL by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      To be clear: yes, there are people and companies I will charge more, and some I simply won't deal with, depending on their ASSHOLE quotient.