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High-Tech Microphone Picks Voices From a Crowd

JerryQ writes with news of an impressive audio detection system from a company called Squarehead that was demonstrated during a professional basketball game. According to Wired, "325 microphones sit in a carbon-fiber disk above the stadium, and a wide-angle camera looks down on the scene from the center of this disk. All the operator has to do is pinpoint a spot on the court or field using the screen, and the Audioscope works out how far that spot is from each of the mics, corrects for delay and then synchronizes the audio from all 315 of them. The result is a microphone that can pick out the pop of a bubblegum bubble in the middle of a basketball game..."

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  1. come on people... by cencithomas · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is it 315 or 325? Sheesh.

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    1. Re:come on people... by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Funny

      10 microphones were harmed during the posting of this story.

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    2. Re:come on people... by cencithomas · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...and it you *actually* read the fscking article you'd see they also said 315. Good work chief.

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    3. Re:come on people... by the_banjomatic · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and if you read the specs from the manufacturers website, they also list 285, 300 and 345 in various places

    4. Re:come on people... by kevinNCSU · · Score: 3, Informative

      and if you actually read *all* of TFA the scientist says 300 as well. so now we have three numbers: 325, 315, 300. If they keep this up they'll get down to 1 and their product will be a lot cheaper ;)

      Of course we can assume he rounded there for ease of explaining.

    5. Re:come on people... by Black+Cardinal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you actually read the article and watch the example video? This was an example shown in the video, where bubblegum being popped by someone sitting next to the coach (who was being focused upon by the system) was clearly audible above the crowd noise during a heated moment. It wasn't so much desirable as a concrete example of its effectiveness.

    6. Re:come on people... by vlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... so now we have three numbers: 325, 315, 300. ...
      Of course we can assume he rounded there for ease of explaining.

      If I were designing a "phased array radar" style microphone, in the front end I'd probably toss the mics that are the furthest away, and of the remaining mics, I'd toss the ones closest to clipping or otherwise distorting. There are also certain combinations of unfavorable geometry both inherently due to mic placement and also the acoustic design.

      So its entirely possible they wired up 325 but before they do all the phased array calculations they toss out the 25 worst signals or something like that.

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    7. Re:come on people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The quick breakdown of responses on Slashdot:

      The last remaining nerds on Slashdot who actually like technology: "Sweet! That's an impressive display of audio recording techniques!"

      The paranoia crowd: "ZOOOOOOOMG that means THEY(tm) can listen in on you! Then they're already stealing your identity to impersonate you! MY PRIVACY IS AT RISK OHNOEZ START REBELLION NOW PLZ KTHX"

      The audiophiles: "Pfft. Everyone knows you need at least 560 microphones and analog pickups, else you'll clearly lose so much quality as to be unlistenable by any but the most primitive and underdeveloped of eardrums. Plebs."

      cencithomas: "WHERE DID THE TEN MICROPHONES GO?!?"

    8. Re:come on people... by KlaymenDK · · Score: 5, Funny

      You've all got it wrong. These are state-of-the-art modern quantum microphones. They work rather excellently -- as long as you don't try to count 'em. That's why the figures in the specs are all over the place -- if they'd just state *one* figure, the darn thing wouldn't be able to hear anything at all! How do you expect to sell something like that?

    9. Re:come on people... by RenHoek · · Score: 2, Funny

      Monster Cable spambot: "You know you need gold plated cables for it to work, right? I've gotta link here somewhere with some good ones.."

    10. Re:come on people... by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Informative

      With only two microphones it's all about how they are located. If you can locate two mics so they both pick up the noise but only one of them picks up the signal then with modern "adaptive filtering"* DSP techniques you can achieve huge noise reduction. IIRC this technique is used for micing helicopter pilots among other things.

      *I put adaptive filtering in quotes because you don't directly use the filter to remove noise. Instead you use the filter to eliminate magnitude/phase differences in the noise picked up by the two microphones. After adaptive filtering the "noise" can then be subtraced from the "signal+noise" to give just the signal (that's the idea anyway, in practice the adaptive filter is not perfect so some noise is left)

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    11. Re:come on people... by dillkvast · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...and if you read the specs from the manufacturers website, they also list 285, 300 and 345 in various places

      Actually the older model had 300 mics. Currently Squarehead makes small 225 mic array, a medium 285 mic array and a large 345 mic array. The largest array has a diameter of 2.12m (about 7 feet) and the smallest 1.05m (about 3.5 feet). Audio zoom is available both realtime and in replay as all channels can be stored.

      And yes, it does run on Linux (and Mac OS X)

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  2. FTFY by sheriff_p · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Surely that would be better written as "terrifying" rather than "impressive"

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    1. Re:FTFY by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How come you get terrified by an array of microphones with an impressive spatial detection capability? The thing is technically impressive, whether or not it "terrifies" a certain person is about perspective, and that person's tendency towards becoming terrified by mundane objects.

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    2. Re:FTFY by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "The thing is technically impressive, whether or not it "terrifies" a certain person is about perspective, and that person's tendency towards becoming terrified by mundane objects."

      It is not the object that is terrifying, but rather what the existence of the object, plus the current trends in behavior by our Fearless(fearful) Leaders, plus a modicum of ability to put 2 and 2 together, yielding these devices being everywhere, able to monitor all conversations in the world.

    3. Re:FTFY by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      able to monitor all conversations in the world.

      C'mon. The main reason this works so well in a basketball stadium is because everyone is sitting in their seats. When people are moving around it's going to take significantly more work to capture a single conversation, especially if you don't know their direction and speed. It's also only going to pick anything up past a certain volume level, and it's also limited by line of sight (or sound). If the person walks behind something, or turns their head away from the mic array, they lose the audio.

      plus the current trends in behavior by our Fearless(fearful) Leaders

      Seems to me that the population is way more fearful than the leadership. There's no reason to continue that.

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    4. Re:FTFY by syousef · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How come you get terrified by an array of microphones with an impressive spatial detection capability? The thing is technically impressive, whether or not it "terrifies" a certain person is about perspective, and that person's tendency towards becoming terrified by mundane objects.

      Pffftt! I had teachers with ears that could do this when I was in primary school in the 80s! Every time I talked trash about them I'd end up in detention! ;-)

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  3. Re:Would work on stored sound too by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Informative

    In fact, that's exactly what TFA says.

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  4. They made movie about this in the 70s by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 4, Interesting
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  5. Nothing to hide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow... why limit it to just stadiums? You could have arrays of these things lining every street and every mall! Just imagine how many terrorists you could catch by processing all the millions/billions of conversations going on in public places. All that data would be handy for collecting evidence against criminals too, you just go back through your chatlogs (all indexed per-person with voice/facial recognition) and dig up every conversation they've ever had outside.

  6. Re:Would work on stored sound too by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    It occurs to me that if you store all 325 audio streams with accurate time-codes and the relative positions of the microphones you would be able to do this at any time later on the stored sound as well. You could probably get away with much fewer than 325 microphones at some cost in quality.

    Yes. And that's already part of the system.

  7. Re: by scruffy-tech · · Score: 3, Funny

    I read the article. It went from 325 to 315 to 300. They may have gotten it down to a single mic had they kept writing.

  8. Re:Would work on stored sound too by hoggoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe I should've read it then.

    But I, like most Slashdotters, am so quick that I can just glance at a poorly written summary and instantly understand all that needs to be known about the topic. It's really a wonderful time-saver being so damn smart I don't even need to know the facts.

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  9. Sounds like beamforming by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Informative

    This sounds like beamforming. Submarines do this. Works great.

    1. Re:Sounds like beamforming by Obfuscant · · Score: 2, Interesting
      This sounds like beamforming. Submarines do this. Works great.

      So THAT'S what that large, grey cylindrical object hanging over the heads of the crowd at the last professional basketball game I went to was. I always wondered...

      I wonder if they heard me saying "I wonder what that large grey cylindrical object hanging over our heads is", or maybe "I hope those ropes don't break."

    2. Re:Sounds like beamforming by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Can't speak to radar, but for passive sonars - you're dead wrong. Some USN passives are broadboand, others narrow, but none are single freq.

  10. Re:Would work on stored sound too by internewt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This system might also be hackable, such that people can preserve their privacy and not be listened in on from hundreds of feet away.

    You simply have a microphone near your mouth, sample it, and repeat the sound out of a speaker with slight echoes with randomised delays. There must be something that could interfere with the process they use to "zoom in" on a particular sound source. Maybe if you can measure the distance to the listening device, it would be possible to manipulate the frequency of sounds you are making so as to create a standing wave or something that would cause the microphones to be overloaded or to hear nothing..... shit, maybe the tech that drives noise cancelling headphones could be used here? Who you are speaking to gets an earpiece with unedited sound piped to them, and speakers on your lapels kick out anti-sound so eavesdroppers hear nothing.

    So now in public, you just need to have strings of randomised flashing IR LEDs illuminating your face, so CCTV has a hard time capturing your image, and now something to mess with your voice so that The Man cannot listen in too! If you are thinking "paranoid fucker", I am thinking what the fuck business is it of people to listen in on me? And that's a rhetorical question: I don't need to be told to think of the children, etc..

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  11. Technique already in use in radar systems by bytestorm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a cool application of a well used technique. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array

  12. Re:Would work on stored sound too by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just like Congress!

    And, to be back on topic, referees.

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  13. Prior Art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    My father, would tell me stories when I was growing up about helping design a surveillance tool for ease-dropping on restaurant conversions that used the same principle. They had a map of the table layouts and you would place a pointer over the table you wanted to listen to. Mics hidden around the edge of the restaurant would capture the sound. This was back during the early 60's so they used a mechanical delay mechanism. Said it worked as well as if you had planted the mic at the table, plus you didn't have to worry about where they sat. Like many things, this is more powerful and versatile but hardly anything new.

  14. Coming soon... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... to a political rally near you. You probably don't need particularly accurate microphone placement and, in fact, if you had precise position and velocity coordinates of each of the mikes at any given time, they could even be moving.

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  15. Turbo super cool by Swarley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just in case anybody is confused, that is cool as shit. That's all.

  16. Re:Data harvesting? by arivanov · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is the classic phase array antenna approach from radar tech applied to sound. Cool application though.

    In fact it is easier for sound because the amount of data per element is much smaller than in let's say a radar.

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  17. Re:Data harvesting? by Dthief · · Score: 2, Funny

    no, but it can focus entirely on one vuvuzela

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  18. First phrase to be picked up by this mike will be. by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 2, Insightful
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  19. Re:You missed a few... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    Meme-mongers: Imagine a Beowulf cluster of that array! Meta-commentators: (Present company excluded, well not really) Timothy! MAFIAACS: Oh great, they just copyrighted my gum-popping sounds. Insightful curmudgeons: Given sufficient sensitivity, this could be done with a tetrahedral array--50 years. Now, get off my lawn!

    Yeah, but does it run Linux?

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  20. Re:Terrifying by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, to point out that a thing's technical impressiveness need not preclude its creation of terror.

    That's fine, but you're comparing a device whose purpose is to capture audio with a device whose purpose is to cause as much destruction as possible.

    Recording every voice in the crowd has significant implications for society. Some people will find those implications terrifying--especially people who distrust society because they have been intellectually threatening to often-foolish authority figures for much of their lives. Such people happen to hang out on slashdot.

    This is just a microphone array. If a government is going to conduct surveillance on its people without a warrant, it doesn't really matter what device they use to do that. That capability already exists. If a government is doing that, the answer is to get the government to stop doing that, not limit your technical progress.

    Do you think the people who build this are the first to think of or build it? Are these people giving the nefarious government a tool that they don't already have? Local governments in the US have been using audio triangulation to pinpoint the source of gunfire in a city for a long time, this is very similar. Instead of identifying the unknown location, you're targeting the known location.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunshot_Location_Detection_System

    That was inspired by seismology, which has been going on for even longer.

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  21. Wonder if this has theatrical applications? by Dammital · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I do some community theater work as a hobby - amateur stuff - and wonder if something like this could be used to track multiple actors on stage? Might be better than fitting them all with transmitters and lavaliers. Targeting would become the next problem, I guess.