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CERN LHC Reaches Its Goals For 2010

Anonymous Dupaeur writes "The goals for the first run of the most powerful particle collider (and the most energetic storage ring since ISR) were recently surpassing the 10^32 level of luminosity, with a destructive 15 MJ energy per-beam. This is a significant milestone, opening the way to collect more and more data. The current plan is to stop the proton collisions soon, and provide an ion (Pb) beam and conclude this year with a X-mass break. The next year is expected to bring at least one inverse femtobarn of data, which is achievable with such beam power. After that, the entire accelerator complex will be shut down for a year, due to budget costs for science in Europe."

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  1. X-mass? by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    conclude this year with a X-mass break.

    Is that supposed to be some kind of punny joke?

    1. Re:X-mass? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

      conclude this year with a X-mass break.

      Is that supposed to be some kind of punny joke?

      It's just a subtle reminder to never cross the beams.

  2. NOT shutting down due to budget cuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Summary is incorrect. The LHC is NOT shutting down due to budget cuts. It was planned to shut down to accommodate the upgrade to full 7TeV beams. The budget cuts are responsible for shutting down other accelerators (not LHC). If you can even name one of these other minor accelerators, you know more about CERN than I do (and IAAPP).

    1. Re:NOT shutting down due to budget cuts by afidel · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's also shutting down because the peak demand for electricity in that part of Europe is during the winter. It was always planned to be shutdown for upgrades and repairs during the peak demand months.

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  3. Re:Inverse!!!! by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, if a femtobarn is a really really small barn, then its inverse would be a really really small anti-barn.

    When two such particles collide, you'd better get the flock out. At least that's the little I've herd.

  4. I wonder if.. by mswhippingboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    they'll have to take the femto-hay out to make room for all that data.

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  5. Re:Inverse!!!! by epiphani · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ok, wow, its an actual term explaining the number collisions. From wikipedia:

    The "inverse femtobarn" (fb1) is a measurement of particle collision events per femtobarn. Over a period of time, two streams of particles with a cross-sectional area, measured in femtobarns, are directed to collide.

    However, an "inverse femtobarn of data" still makes no sense.

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  6. Thank You Recession! by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    After that, the entire accelerator complex will be shut down for a year, due to budget costs for science in Europe.

    The Great Recession that Saved the World! Don't worry, our politicians are dutifully working on more.

  7. Re:Shutting down by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 2, Informative

    It seems like they could solicit money from the rest of the world since their studies benefit everyone. I'm sure someone smarter than me has thought of that already.

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  8. Re:I haven't been following this. by schmidt349 · · Score: 4, Funny

    There you go again, always complaining about black holes. You can bet that if they produced a whole gang of planet-destroying white holes it wouldn't even make the back page of the crime section.

  9. 15 MJ energy by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    with a destructive 15 MJ energy per-beam.

    Actually, it's only 14.9999999.... MJ, so we're safe. Thank goodness!

  10. Re:Inverse!!!! by epiphani · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is my favorite bit:

    10^-40 meters square = picobarn
    10^-43 meters square = femtobarn
    10^-46 meters square = attobarn
    10^-52 meters square = shed

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  11. Re:Inverse!!!! by DirePickle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You take the number of inverse femtobarns ( units of 1/area ) times the cross-section of the interaction/particle/whatever that you're looking for (which varies with energy) to get the total number events that you should see. So, inverse femtobarn is a good unit for amount-of-data-collected.

  12. Re:I haven't been following this. by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have they used the Large Hardon Collider to make a black hole yet?

    There has never been more of a need for the -1 obvious flag.

  13. Re:Inverse!!!! by Rising+Ape · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not really a measurement of collision events, though it is proportional to it. Think about it classically, for a beam of billiard balls, say. The number of collisions you get will be proportional to to the area of beam, the number of particles per unit area for beam 1, the same for beam 2 and the cross-sectional area of the balls. All the factors apart from the last are shoved together in the luminosity figure - which has dimensions of inverse area and the barn is a unit of area.

    So the integrated luminosity (in inv. barns) * the cross-section of the process you're interested in (in barns) gives you a number.

    In reality, the cross-sections don't correspond directly to physical areas (it's all quantum after all) but the principle is the same.

  14. Re:Inverse!!!! by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow. Your analogy didn't make anything clearer. I'm just as confused now as I was prior to reading your comment. Perhaps more so!

    *sniff*

    I'm so proud

  15. Re:Shutting down by the_other_chewey · · Score: 5, Informative

    The cost is too high to run next year. That is disappointing.

    Bad reporting. The LHC has scheduled maintenance in 2012.

    However, CERN has more accelerators than just the LHC, and those will
    be shut down due to financial constraints. They don't do much cutting edge
    research anyway, so the science output is largely unaffected.

    Shutting down the LHC for other than technical reasons isn't planned at all.

  16. Re:Shutting down by gbeagle2112 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The reason for the shutdown in 2012 is to replace the faulty interconnects (too high resistance) in the quench protection system (QPS) which caused the accident in fall 2008. With the interconnects they have now they can only run the magnets at less than nominal current and still have the QPS protect the magnets from damage if there is a quench. Once these are replaced, the LHC should be able to operate closer to the design beam energy.

  17. Re:I haven't been following this. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look, call me prejudiced if you want, but to me Supermassive Black Hole just sounds more threatening than White Dwarf. Or any kind of dwarf for that matter.

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  18. Re:Inverse!!!! by Ihmhi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could you tell us the formula for converting femtobarns into Libraries of Congress so the rest of us can understand this?

  19. Re:Inverse!!!! by treeves · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reminds me of that guy in a Monty Python skit: Arthur "2x10^-52" Jackson.

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