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IT's Last Hope — a Job In the Boonies?

GMGruman writes "Offshoring, cloud computing, automation, 'do more with less' — all of these have been chipping away at US IT workers' ability to have a job. But some companies now dangle a new possibility: Move to rural areas for lower-paying 'onshoring' jobs that can compete with lower overseas salaries. InfoWorld's Bob Violino talked to IT workers who've made the move and discovered that although it's no 'Green Acres meets Big Bang Theory' experience, a move from the big city to the hinterlands appeals mainly to just some IT worker segments, even as it provides new opportunities for others."

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  1. I'd rather make peanuts telecommuting by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rather than take a crappy on-site job somewhere, I'd rather have an even crappier off-site one... and a lower cost of living. No commute whatsoever is a big feature.

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    1. Re:I'd rather make peanuts telecommuting by pnuema · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right; to an 18 year old, the boonies suck. To a 35 year old, the peace and quiet and the lower cost of living are hugely attractive. So what if there is no night life? I've got a four year old. I'm too fucking tired to go out.

    2. Re:I'd rather make peanuts telecommuting by Pharmboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure that the likelihood of his daughter becoming a sleaze is more related to how much time he spends helping her build confidence and esteem, than it is to how far they live from Chucky Cheese and a water park.

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    3. Re:I'd rather make peanuts telecommuting by pnuema · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Or to one where safe sex education consists of more than just a video of Brystol Palin screaming "DON'T DO IT!"

      Any parent who relies on school provided "sex education" to teach their kids the facts of life deserves what they get. Here is the biggest thing people get wrong - you don't have "THE TALK" about the birds and the bees. You have a conversation. One that starts when they can speak, and lasts the rest of their lives. Never lie to your kids about this. Always tell them more than they can understand, and they will come back and ask questions when they are ready.

    4. Re:I'd rather make peanuts telecommuting by nomorecwrd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Netiquette!!, Netiquette!!

      No one else remember those days when Netiquette didn't allow you to respond just to correct spelling or grammar? Unless it was obviously misleading.

      The Internet, and /. is full of people from different origins, and not everyone has English as their mother language. The forum, the discussion should be the issue, not spelling or grammar. Why deviate attention to the topic over bad English language knowledge or simply lousy typing?

      (written by a Chilean, who types lousy and who's native language is Spanish)

  2. Re:Maybe stop surfing /. all day long by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What companies want are cheap slaves. They want to use them like batteries and toss them aside when they get old or sick.

    That's why they had laws passed which say labor laws don't apply to computer people (specifically in washington, california, and texas that I know of).

    They want 12 hour days.
    They don't want to pay benefits.
    They want the work to be accurate.

    The executives want no employees, yet still want a mass market they can sell to and get big salaries themselves.

    That's ending as the mass market hollows out. Increasingly under 1% of the population takes most the money and doesn't share it. They are destroying their own market by not contributing any employee/customers to it.

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  3. Re:I give up by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I actually recommend this choice to people whom I have had to let go. It was pretty clear they didn't possess the wherewithal to continue growing and contributing in this industry.

    One guy went out and started a consulting business. He advises people on drainage plans for their new homes. As a programmer, he stumbled through the code and introduced as many bugs as he fixed. I think we picked him up as a resource sometime in the late 90s when we were hiring like crazy. 10 years of experience, and the only real thing I think we figured out was that he was a pretty mediocre programmer. But now he is doing very well as a drainage consultant.

    You shouldn't stay in a job you suck at. And your manager shouldn't keep you once you've shown no particular aptitude for the work. Go do something you're good at. You'll feel much better about yourself and you won't have the sword of Damocles always hanging above you.

  4. Re:Then you're a prisoner by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The employees have nowhere else to go, and you can pay minimum wage and really screw them over.

    What the hell do you think they were doing before the plant opened? And what do you think prevents them from quitting and moving to the city as rural people have been doing for 150 years? People in towns that these companies move into are free to keep on doing whatever they were doing before the plant opened, or take a job at the plant. That is choice.

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  5. Re:Maybe stop surfing /. all day long by AnonymousClown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The executives want no employees, yet still want a mass market they can sell to and get big salaries themselves.

    That's ending as the mass market hollows out. Increasingly under 1% of the population takes most the money and doesn't share it. They are destroying their own market by not contributing any employee/customers to it.

    They believe that they can sell to developing countries and that will save their asses. Unfortunately for them, they are also under the impression that after off-shoring industrialized manufacturing and development, they will also be the ones making the stuff. Nope, technology will transfer and local firms will take over. Eventually, companies like Intel, GM, and any other big American corp that has moved pretty much overseas (except for mgt) will be made irrelevant. All those foreign scientists, engineers, accountants and other knowledge workers will wise up, start their own firms, and destroy the old stodgy firms.

    What will I do? Buy the foreign cheaper products - I have no choice. My standard of living is worse than my Grandfather's. My Grandpa had an eighth grade education, 5 kids, a stay at home wife, middle class home, a car, and had no problem paying the bills. He retired with a great pension and never had to worry about eating, keeping the house, and he still gave out $10,000 a pop to his kids. My Dad supported 3 kids, a house, two cars on one salary. You can't do that anymore.

    That American dream is dead, dead, dead.

    We're spiraling down to the lowest common denominator: poverty stricken people who will work 14 hour days - 7 days a week and thank their personal god that they can do that because the alternative is far worse.

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