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New Fish Species Discovered 4.5 Miles Under the Ocean
eldavojohn writes "The University of Aberdeen's Oceanlab (a partner in the recent census of marine life) has discovered a new snailfish. That might not sound very exciting, unless you consider that its habitat is an impressive four and a half miles below the ocean's surface (video). If my calculations are correct, that's over ten and a half thousand PSI, or about seventy-three million Pascals. The videos and pictures are a couple years old, as the team has traveled around Japan, South America and New Zealand to ascertain the biodiversity of these depths. The group hopes to eventually bring specimens to the surface. It seems the deepest parts of the ocean, once thought to be devoid of life, are actually home to some organisms. As researchers build better technology for underwater exploration, tales of yore containing unimaginable monsters seem a little more realistic than before."
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there is life.
And there is a lot of water in the universe.
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And just how do you propose that happen?
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PSI ? Miles ? FFS when does the US rejoin the *REST* of the world ?
I picture them just exploding they're raised above a certain depth.
Also, too soon to predict a future where there are pressurized water aquariums for these interesting fish?
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Neptune was Roman. Poseidon is the Greek analogue. Besides which, Poseidon (or Neptune) have nothing to do with rain... that would be Zeus (or Jupiter).
Yes, yes, you were trying to make a joke... but please do be accurate lest Poseidon's horses carry you away (yes, the greek god of the sea was also the god of horses. Go figure.).
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Then keep it pressurised while it is raised, it has already been done with other species.
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If the fish was brought up without proper pressure then yes it would take a significant amount of time to rise and live (maybe even impossible). I belive that they typically manage to store them in some kind of pressure vessel so that they can keep them at least close to the same pressure until they can perform a study on them. either that or they just let them explode i don't know.
these, and many other species, will be gone in few years. we need to significantly reduce the worlds population, starting now.
If a high quantity of species is desirable (big if), selection pressure (human competition, for example) would be a Good Thing, as it would drive speciation. BTW, in which era would you place peak biodiversity? Was it really that nice back then?
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Sounds like this snail works well ...
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(puts sunglasses on)
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under pressure.
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I wonder how these snailfish would fare if exposed to the 'vacuum' of space? Would they fare better than the near instant death of terrestrial creatures? It seems to me that any creature that lives at pressures of 10K PSI must not have an internal pressure differential at all. Gills are certainly a better adaptation for both immense pressures and vacuums than lungs.
I thought Poseidon was the manufacturer of nicely-made Swedish regulators.
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Stop thinking about it like what would happen to you at that depth because thats not what happens.
Everything in the body of the fish formed at that pressure, which means it doesn't really feel the pressure. Your body didn't. Its internal pressure is about 14psi, if you took it down there, it would be crushed until it reached equilibrium with the outside pressure.
Likewise, if your brought the fish to the surface, or tried to, it would literally explode before it got to the surface as the internal pressure would be too great for its cells to contain.
You can see the same thing if you pull a fish up from even 150 feet too quickly, its eyeballs will pop out of its skull and its internal organs sometimes pushed out of its mouth.
We need to stop thinking that theres something special about life at these pressures or depths like its rare. We've known for 50 years there are fish down deeper than that, there were fish at the bottom of the Marianas trench, this one is slightly more than HALF that deep.
When you are born at such pressures, anything else seems insane ... kind of like going into space without a space suit, which is pretty much what the fish would need to survive at the surface since its body is designed to operate at much higher pressures.
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" It seems the deepest parts of the ocean, once thought to be devoid of life, are actually home to some organisms."
Do we really have to hear this every effing time a new deep sea species is discovered? The deeps haven't been thought of as being devoid of life for decades, if ever.
A fish that can live in solid rock. (I know, you meant 4.5 miles under the surface of the ocean.)
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What does it taste like?
I thought Poseidon was the name of a cruise ship
I for one, welcome our new snailfish overlords.
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Any specific reason why this has to be NOW, not 50 years ago, not 50 years in the future ? Are you selling a book, or buying too many of *those* books ?
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Who lives in a pineapple under the sea (no not spongebob but your close)
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An expedition to the Mariana Trench back in 1960 at a depth of 6.8 miles reported "a number of small sole and flounder swimming away". so it's been known for 50 years that vertebrates can survive at extreme depths (the deepest part of the ocean no less)
Does 700+ atmospheres constitute 'goldilocks' in the search for exoplanets? 'Goldilocks', apparently refers to a set of conditions capable of sustaining life. I've often been struck by the near-religous arrogance of defining the conditions capable of sustaining life. Someone who didn't drop biology in (very) high school will hopefully clarify this. From casual reading, it seems that we find life on this planet everywhere we look. From SO2 vents on the ocean floor, to the rim of volcanoes, the ocean trenches to the upper atmosphere, the hottest desert to the coldest poles.
Should the perspective be "life can happen anywhere; the onus is to define where it can't"?
Title needs a little revision - "New Fish Species Discovered 4.5 Miles Under the Ocean"
That's a lot of deep ocean digging to get to it.
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Great question!
If they taste good I'm marketing them as a new product.
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That tiny snippet of a sentence sums up the problem with Imperial.
I need exactly _one_ non-trivial calculation to fix this:
4.5 miles = 7.24 km
So it's 725 bar. (ten meters of water = 1 bar. plus the ~1 bar of air)
Why is it that the US still prefers Imperial over Metric? I really don't get it.
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I thought Poseidon was something bad guys put in James Bond's martini...
Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
Miles Under the Ocean
Well, that's interesting, a fish under the ocean. Usually there's rock under the ocean.
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It's not needed. Nearly all estimates predict human population will peak at about 9 billion sometime this century, then start declining. This is entirely due to education and a higher standard of living. With those, people naturally have less children.
Lowering population by a couple of billion will not necessarily preserve species. If there were only one billion people who consumed the amount the average American does now, we'd be in a worse position than we are now with 6 billion.