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Smart Grid May Also Carry IPv6 Traffic

itwbennett writes "Kevin Fogarty is blogging about new specs outlined by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) that outline the requirements for 'any network designed to carry data instead of just electrons.' What's needed, in short, is 'a Common Information Model for the format of data in the network, interfaces to allow it to go from one device or substation to another, exchanges between control centers and communications protocols that will add security to the net.'"

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  1. Grid doesn't even carry electrons exactly... by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 2, Informative

    It carries "waves". The individual electrons don't really get very far, but the 60Hz electromagnetic wave that carries the power, that goes far.

    All this is, is, hey, we carry a powerful 60Hz signal, how about we carry lower-power, high frequency signals too? And all the associated complexity of actually sending and receiving high frequency signals, a devil of many details.

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  2. Re:Growth rate? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, and don't call me Shirley.

  3. Re:Growth rate? by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Informative

    And you don't think can do this already?

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  4. Re:Growth rate? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1, Informative

    Will this give them the capability to shut down internet access too -- perhaps even for an entire block where riots are taking place?

    They've have to knock out power along with the internet. If you don't have power you probably don't have internet access anyway ... unless you have a broadband/WAN card in your laptop, which probably has a battery in it.

  5. Re:no it won't by vlm · · Score: 2, Informative

    But folks have been talking about IPv6 for years now.

    And many of those folks such as myself have been quietly deploying... I strongly urge my competitors to take your stance and bury their heads in the sand. I love it. Please make more /. posts encouraging my competitors to not innovate. The more people left behind, the further ahead I'll be.

    Or if you're sceptical of power grids also carrying data?

    He actually got that right, perhaps accidentally, he just didn't post any sources or reasoning. BPL has been nothing but a miserable failure. The idea is eternally seductive, but the outside plant and the electromagnetic interference environment makes it an economic non-starter. It's kind of like smell -o- vision or 3d tv, wouldn't that be nifty, but it just doesn't fit the market.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication#Internet_access_.28broadband_over_powerlines.29

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_broadband_over_power_line_deployments

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